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That's proprietary information . How did you find that out?

re watch the game the greater detail is right there.

I inderstand, I really do. Lol. I guess my one word remark was a bad choice of word. So yea Ej is now the starter in a mythical off season Bills world without a vet QB(yet). if it makes the people happy to think EJ today after the season ended is the starter until next September when it begins with a starter not named Manuel. Well thats awesome. Positive thinking is great. I should think more like that. it will Give me hope that my dream date Kate Beckinsale will be dating me after she dumps her loser husband ( or he retires) and before she finds another rich douche. in other words it ain't happening. I Like EJ he has a great personality................ Knows how to run out of bounds, And can throw a dirt ball every bit as good as Fitz did. (See Tampa game 2013) he Seems to be a team player, but reading between the lines of yesterdays presser, it is possible OBD is figuring out he is just not a starting NFL QB. never will be. As hard as he tries, he does not have it. Kind of like his coach. The magician everyone loves here Bill Polian indicated that on ESPN the night he was drafted. His jaw hit the ground at the bills #16 pick. His Remarks were not positive. if PoLian is hired even as a temp consultant I expect EJ firmly the teams #2 until his rook contract expires. I wish the kid luck and hope he invests well. he tried his best. Happy New Years All & lets hope for even better things in 15 for the Bills.

if the lions had a kicker this would not even be a discussion.

How much would it cost to upgrade to Upgrade to Kate Beckinsale for a date? Erin doesn't do much for me and would be be most likely talking friggin stats all night. I Would pick a buffalo home playoff game but that is a ways off

link?

Post it on pats* board.

Obviously, go for it Doug!

Cowher about a week ago on air and before any Bills rumors were floating around said and I am so paraphrasing this.I have been out of the league for 8 years, it constantly evolves. i love where I am and have no desire to go back to coaching.

Thanks for your service!!! best of luck in retirement!

Well for starters do we have a 4th round pick?

Are you saying you heard he's going to be a Mod on TSW?

It happens all the time. Guess what the Colts thought about Hughes when they traded him?I'm going to guess they thought they had just fleeced us.

IDK when you're reputation is being a dirty player, and you have done that and even worse before to other players.One starts to lose the give him a break attitude. Not paying attention but have the Lions even come to his defense on this? Not that I have seen. All I Heard is that they need the decision quickly because they need to game plan. A fine simply will not be enough. but the commish has to possibly bench a big time player for the playoffs? The decision will most likely be based on what is good for the league, and not quarterback or player safety by a lunatic player. Once again the almighty buck is at the heart of thism issue like others this year. If Rodgers was seriously hurt no doubt as much as a lifetime ban would have been forthcoming.

"that's proprietary" isn't even a cognitive sentence, or thought much less an explanation. #fail

Translation: we are clueless, and analytics is simply a buzz word here on OBD.

Well, I guess the Bills could always use another third stringer. They only have 2 of them. How many draft picks does Whaley give up?

Well,then that would be great!

haven't they been trying to "fix" the o- line for two years and running? What makes you think Whaley gets it right in his third try?

Might be a bit of stretching the truth claiming what Marrone and Hackett showed everyone for the past two years an "offense" Correct me if I am wrong but I did not notice any staring down by Woods at the QB once they mercifully pulled Manuel for the season. yea, lots of good familiarity with that pathetic offense will help a guy that IMO is just going to hold the growth of this team down. Until Whaley, etc. finally eat it and let him go.Maybe he has a future in the arena league? He has no chance of becoming a starting NFL caliber QB. I think someone on OBD already knows this. Yep, he is a dumpster fire IMO.

IMO Orton came into too Buffalo a career .500 QB. Why are the people so happy too see him leave & dumping on him? he actually had a winning season despite a OC that is completely lost,Two starting backs injured for part of the season or should we just admit an ineffectual running game for the entire season. Oh, and one of the worst O-lines in the NFL. Was he the answer? Eff no. But he was the best QB since Flutie and the still honored fritztragic. yea, he slid when he should of got a first down. Nowhere near the incompetency of running out of bounds on 4th down at the end of a game. That "QB" was named Trent Edwards. No way the Bills end up with a winning season with Manuel. Truth probably is Whaley, Brandon, Maroon, and Hackett all would have been fired this AM if Manuel would have stayed in for the season. Most forget Manuel needs a 6 foot circle on the broadside of a barn to even hit the barn. And,of course the usual suspect(s) blames the fans believing Orton read the BN and TSW and decided too much drama.LOL really the idiocy of crusading sometimes gets really tiresome reading. orton was who he was, a stop gap. And playing in a rudderless offense. Which unless dramatic coaching changes are made will be the same next year, with another middle of the road vet tossed in who may or may not why do as well. Whaley keeps his job. because signing Orton on the eve of opening day is what a clueless GM does when he realizes his first rounder in year 2 blows. There is nor was a QB on the roster with even close to Ortons very limited credentials. Sure Orton grabbed a quick 5 million and retired, he also won more games than he lost. Was by far the best option put there. he earned every penny, unlike Chris Williams, etc. Other examples of Whaley's scouting and lack of football instincts. Also, a big shout out to #94 who actually played all 16 games this year. Instead of dialing in a few which has always been his MO. I for one appreciated that, and the whole defensive unit for playing with heart for the entire season. Best of luck too Orton he earned his chump paychecks, and for the fans who are into stats? Take a look at the "franchise" QB's he played better than. Some real interesting names on that list. The purge needs to begin at OBD. The stink on the deck is as bad as ever.

Nice mix,must really keep the hoody* on his toes.

Urbik>Williams

Watkins needs 75 yards to hit 1K on the season. They better get him the ball, because IMO there is little to cheer about with this horrid offense. Seeing the kid get his 1000 would at least be a plus for him the team and his fans.

Haven't all Marrone era pats* games been embarrassments? I forget.