TwistofFate

We're you saying this for Nate Peterman?

And inside of two years they benched Taylor for a rookie with whom they thought was better, only for it to be a disaster and switch back after halftime. Then they cut Taylor, carry the rookie into the second season, draft another rookie, and sign McCarron. Before the start of the season they trade away the only veteran Qb presence we have, and carry a second year Qb and a rookie into the regular season with no form of leadership at the position in sight. They name the second year Qb the starter, and bench him after 1 week into the season, for the rookie they just drafted. The rookie has looked equally as disappointing as the second year guy they benched for him. (sad because Allen is supposedly the future) Fast forward weeks and all of a sudden we sign another Qb because the brass believe we need a veteran presence to help two young players. That is called a debacle. And it's been a debacle from the moment these people took over. Nothing pertaining to this position has been handled correctly, including moving up in the draft and trading valuable picks for a Qb that needed more work and was a bigger project than any other first rounder. I'm really not sure where people like you come from.

These things are all too familiar for those of us around these boards who have critiqued Allen thus far, and have drawn comparisons from his collegiate days. The Bills made a huge mistake trading up to draft a HUGE project player. They could have drafted Rosen, who is much more of a pure passer and more polished or they could have gotten more aggressive and went after Darnold or Mayfield. PS... We could have taken Mahomes last year as well. If there is one thing I have ZERO trust in from this regime, it's their ability to select Qb talent or develop it. It's been debacle after debacle from the word go. I'll state my opinion again, and happily eat crow if proven wrong, Allen is a mistake and will bust.

What is a big game? This guy has only broke the 100 yard mark TWO times since 2014. That isn't a typo. He has TWO hundred yard games in over 3 years. I have no idea WTF Bean was thinking bringing him in here besides having a big body in the redzone. But what difference does that make when you drop just about every TD pass you get your hands on? KB is not a number one. At best he's a two. Realistically, he's situational.

Sure. There really isn't anything to be mistaken about. Just listen to all of the Bills brass talk about him from the moment they drafted him. Physical talent, physical talent, physical talent, physical tools, protipical qb size, etc. No one talked about his accuracy, timing, anticipation, rhythm, pure pocket passing ability, etc. He was a project with a big arm and physical tools. So was Ej Manuel. So was JP Losman. Where are they? The best Qb we drafted this century was Trent Edwards. He was NEVER the same after getting laid out in that Arizona game. But he actually had pocket passing qualities and was much more refined. I'm sick of big armed project passers. I want polished, refined, with accolades. Allen will flame out, and every excuse will be given from the talent surrounding him to the coaching. All will have played a role in his failure, except for the fact he wasn't NFL ready and was a project when we drafted him. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. We've passed on both Mahomes and Rosen for Allen. We've seen how Mahomes has looked, and Rosen is right around the corner. It was a mistake to pass on either one IMO. Time will tell.

Who cares? Touch, anticipation, and progressions are way more important. Also, a lot of his passes have been dropped due to him throwing 50mph passes on a short 10 yard pass. Having a powerful arm is the icing on the cake, at least it should be. You draft a guy just because he can throw 70 yard bombs. It means very little in the NFL today.

I wouldn't be worried. This will be a 21+ point loss. Sadly, their defense will completely shut down this offense and their offense, at home, will jump out to an early commanding lead.

Allen is not my choice. Mahomes last year, Rosen this year...both were available to us. We've already seen how Mahomes has started thus far, now I await the Rosen start which is coming soon. Allen was a huge project pick, not one that you jump up the board and waste multiple picks to acquire. That type of move is made to secure a day one starter.

Patrick Mahomes.... /end

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Hahaha, you couldn't be more wrong Mofo, but I like your attitude.

I could care less what you take seriously. Petermans career was defined by 10 quarters in the NFL. That was enough for many, many, fans on this board to label him as unworthy to even be in the NFL. Now on the opposite end of the spectrum, another Qb we passed on has 10 tds in 8 quarters of play and is setting historical records, but according to many fans here, that means nothing because it's only 8 quarters of football not a career, and no where big enough of a sample size. How can you or anyone else be taken seriously with that kind of hypocrisy?

That's irrelevant. He was sought after because of his talent when he hit FA and we paid him millions. This regime had plenty of opportunities to deal him, cut him, or draft a replacement for him. I grow tired of the excuses for Allen vs Mahomes. None of these arguments mattered when Peterman was at the helm so they don't matter now.

Means nothing. The Chargers gameplan completely changed in the second half. The first half they accelerated, the second half they coasted. It had little to do with McDermott or his play calling. Call the plays next week against Minnesota and hold them to 3-10 points in the first half, and I'll begin to question my logic and rational pertaining to this weeks second half performance.

It aggravates me to no end. Just give me the raw honest truth. I can handle it, I promise. I'll respect you more because of it as well. Coach speak is why fans lose faith and turn on coaches when the team is struggling.

I would feel 100 times better McDermott just came out and said, we're raw, inexperienced and bad. We are in a rebuilding phase, we expect to win, but it's next to impossible with what we currently have on the roster due to the lack of experience and youth both on the roster and in the coaching staff. We are building long term, but rest assured that we are also doing everything we possibly can to produce wins now. This is going to be a long painful season, but we are looking for the dividens to payoff next season and beyond....its going to get ugly, just remember, trust the process. I think I would be OK with that.

Our Hill is Benjamin, the guy our GM went after and made a trade to get. Our Kelce is Clay, the guy we signed to nearly a 40 million dollar contract and one if the highest paid TE in the league. The Online is good enough to get through the season according to OBD. Mahomes is just better, stop making excuses. None of these same excuses were acceptable for Nate Peterman.

Peterman 10 quarters = entire NFL career = WOAT The hypocrisy on this board is disgusting. A lot of these people are the same from the old BBMB and the quality of posts, homerism, and lack of logic has followed to this board. This place has gone downhill since those BBMB have crossed over here. What a shame.

A homer is someone who defends someone blindly, completely disregarding anything that is critical of the said player. As a Bills fan, I root for the whole team, every player. But I will not buy into the hype of any player who has done nothing. I am discussing the fact we traded 10 overall last year, when we knew we needed A Qb. That pick landed the Chiefs Mahomes. It could of landed us Mahomes.

So draft status has nothing to do with the quality of the player? It's all just a crap shoot?

Yea, why care about another missed opportunity on a franchise Qb. I mean they grow on trees, didn't you know? I'm not a chiefs fan, I'm pointing out the ineptitude of this regime regarding Qbs. We could if drafted him, and he could have been throwing 6 tds for us today.

That excuse didn't stop the Allen homers from shredding Peterman, did it?

Wow, a lot excuses as to why to Mahomes has excelled two weeks in a row, posting historic numbers early in his career. It's amazing to me these same excuses were used to defend Peterman last week but were cast off. Bottom line is this regime has debacled the Qb situation from the word go, and has not only made the wrong decisions last year, but has made them again with Allen.

I thought you don't learn anything sitting on the bench? Isn't that the consensus from the Allen homers?