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wait! is #8 confirmed??? 😮

pretty darn close... it's revealed in Erik Turner's film review of Bernard. Bernard needed to have the whole 2nd level group (LB's plus Trey White) shift one gap over to their left to properly align to the 3TE formation used by the Jets off-balance right.

Vikings V Bills should be the wager (both 0-4 in Super Bowls)

Nope, he wasn't... not perfect by any means but certainly nothing remotely close to awful. People with opinions on gameplay... if you're unfamiliar with what "played well / played poorly" really looks like, there's plenty of content like this out there to guide you. Save yourself a bad take. Film results are as indisputable as it gets in football.

OP, your take on Bernard seems pretty on point - Not perfect but we were pleasantly surprised

Scheme looked very well suited to the NYJ opponent. I simply don't agree with literally any of your Dorsey concerns. Film (as pointed out also by Greg Tompsett) shows that the available options were there for Josh. The 2nd and 15 run was explained by both Josh and coach McD last night post game, and makes 100% sense from a coaching perspective. Cook is exactly the type of back to be starting in this scheme as well. With that shotgun spread, you're gonna get TFL's, it comes with the territory. I love the 12 personnel options in our newly adjusted scheme and the plethora of short releases and options it provides in dictating to the defense. The NYJ defense is apparently much better than you credit them for. They and SF are the best 2 I've seen in '23. Josh was the issue last night. Period. This one is real simple, where some other times its a bit more complex, and multi-faceted.

Critical thinking and discernment are 2 severely lacking skills it seems amongst the masses.

He just needs to not throw ridiculous interceptions. the rest of this is nonsense, especially the "no wonder Diggs has had it with this guy" which is 100% complete BS and irresponsible posting implying that its a thing.

Josh advised the reasoning for the run call in is post game interview. McDermott talked about it too in his. The Jets (potentially best D in the game) were in a 2 high shell and the run call was to get the team into 3rd and manageable and "steal some yards" with a run call. (you don't want to be totally behind the sticks on 3rd down vs a team like that. Its sound logic, from a football coaching perspective, despite what many of you think, especially against a great D. Just didn't make a guy miss on the carry. Don't look to hard tonight for other "reasons" for the loss beyond Josh making 3 really bad decisions.

Wow we've got some real 'interesting' fans. Cook is a super talented runner and receiving back for our scheme. LMAO at so many of you. He's not going to break many tackles, that was already known. Seriously, focus on the reality that Josh had an awful game. Cook played well against a monster run D. He gets the edge well, he runs inside well too. Dudes, we were running him on read option out of a shotgun spread formation on most downs. Made his catches too. this thread is nonsense. Loss was almost entirely on Josh and a little on the special teams. I can't fathom why anyone would even think to see Cook as a problem.

HBD SDS!

Fixed

No doubt. He was embarrassingly awful and somehow got away with something like 20 false starts?

The quote is likely more relevant to Frazier's defense when he was the HC in Minnesota. The Bills didn't run a ton of true Tampa 2. They ran more cover 3, cover 2 man (which varies from Tampa 2), quarters coverage, etc. But of course dolts are going to open fire at any opportunity. With that said, I am excited for the prospect of some more risk taking in McDermott's D, than when under Frazier.

Doomed

your curiosity is well founded, @Success, and @Zerovoltz, your assumption about his film watching comment is wrong (and thats fine, but FYI). For the dumb dumbs (such as KDiggz) that have heard the comment and still think there's an issue, none of us can help you fools. But the context of the comment was about watching film, specifically of a team like the Jets. What he was saying essentially was that he doesn't want to get TOO caught up in relying on film tendencies of a team (ie. when we come out in a wide spread with these guys on the field and run this play, the Jets are always going to react a certain way...). So he likes to blend knowing what they do as a reaction on film with what he see's ON the field with his eyes. Because teams will bait you with that sh*t. Why this seems to be so difficult for some people to grasp is beyond me.

Between the ears my a$$. Josh rated up there with Drew Bees and Joe Burrow on intelligence testing coming into the league. As much as we all think we know answers that people who spend 80-100 hours per week dissecting this sport for a living don’t, it ain’t the case. Even being the best team in the league, sometimes by a lot, is no guarantee of even making it to a Super Bowl. It has happened many times to many teams. And yes, Marino was still the best QB I’ve ever seen. 0 Super Bowl wins.

I believe it was Jim (Mouse) McNally but I could be mistaken it's been a while...

Filthy likes the Dolphins

Bills have the better QB, O-line, TE's, RB's and Safeties. D-line (don't forgot Von, Floyd and Groot) and CB is a wash/tie Fish have better WR's, LB's Bills Roster > Fish Roster

Dawkins ( despite preseason performances which mean nothing) is an above average LT in the league. Not a star. But not a jag. This is proven. Morse is an above average Center… same rationale as above with Dawkins McGovern excels in pass protection. He has a track record. He has been playing well on the Bills. There is film review if this is you know how to use YouTube. This is the Bills addressing a need. Torrence has looked like the real deal thus far and is winning the job ( tough to do as a rookie on this team!). He has looked good on film reviews from both games so far. Ie. Even Brown has had some better play ( see the Torrence video above) than the torches and pitchforks people realize. Given that, he still has a lot to prove and also needs to stay healthy. The Bills have a good reserve G and C in Bates. What does all this tell us? Josh DOES have protection and the team has addressed it how they could this off season considering their contracts and cap situation. Is it the ‘91 hogs or the ‘93 Cowboys o line? No… but in today’s NFL, this line up is pretty competent. Not perfect by any means, but competent. And someone also astutely pointed out that at times, Josh makes things very difficult on the o line… this is true. This is not something Josh necessarily needs to change its just a fact and part of the equation.

Its repeated nationally, by many tuned into the game in its current state, because its true. Aside to that, that's what my discussion with SC was about... Hoping for improvement in the Bills Starting O-line, while realizing that depth is not always possible. The "excuse Beane" part of the discussion is a childish approach that I don't really try to get involved with.

Yep.. and much like with mister Mahomes, Josh and the offense would be near unstoppable (its close already w/o) with a top 10 OL. I can only imagine how unfair it would look out there.