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Sucks that we blew the pick on Carter, but no way I’d trade Coleman for worthy. We got the right guy

Regarding the top portion- I agree 💯 we’ve been a play or two 3 out of the last 4 years. I think we were one Von Miller torn acl from 1-3 super bowls. 2 Benford injuries and Tre whites acl from solidifying that. Matt Milano breaks two years in a row after becoming 1st team all pro. Literally losing our best players on D. Bad luck. ballsy bet. I think you could be right looking at the state of the chiefs current OL and the way Mahomes has been playing (clearly not as good as Josh). Reid and Spags are still the wild card imo. If they can make an adjustment or 2 on the OL that can get them to average, I think their OL can get back on track.

💯 and they still manage to beat us every year in the playoffs. 😢

Dropped. Love you man! Sorry I took it this far and about my allegations. I just couldn’t comprehend why the 2020 wouldn’t be included in the conversation. I also didn’t read the first couple pages in depth. If the reason is because you just wanted to get the conversation started and didn’t want to invest even more time in discussing trades and such- I get it. Time is all we have- don’t waste it.

Sorry man. You titled the thread Bills vs Chiefs WR investment and then proceed to leave out the biggest investment (by far) that Beane made into the position. Why?

Lol- the purpose of the post is to discuss each teams investment into the WR position. You even said “had to start somewhere”- so no, this isn’t about what I want the thread to be about. You didn’t start in 2021 for any reason in particular. So don’t act like there was any “purpose of the post” to begin in 2021. This just shows that you’re not making this about the discussion. It’s about the bills lack of investment and leaving out 2020, the foundation of our WR unit allows this conversation to lean in the direction you want it to. I call bs. Sorry bro, I hope this doesn’t upset you, it’s not meant to. It’s just a disingenuous thread and you clearly started in 2021 for a reason- leaving out Beanes biggest investment in the position that led to less investment over the next 4 years.

Because I didn’t create the thread, you did. Add in diggs/davis and their picks. Add hardman to the chiefs tally. It’s not “just as arbitrary”. Beane built the foundation of our WR unit in 2020. And you just so happened to not include that. The foundation that would play key roles from 2020-2023 and played into Beane not using more picks on the position. The bills invested 4 picks (including a 1st) into 2 WRs in 2020, yet this thread doesn’t take that into account- meanwhile it’s just one season prior. Seems like a strange place to start. And he knows this. And that’s why this thread is what it is. Saying we “have to start somewhere” is playing dumb.

Adding one year doesn’t make this “historical”. Beanes investment into WR in 2020 is the major reason why we invested very little into WR from 2021-2023. We had our WR1 in Diggs and they thought (wrong) they had a potential WR2-3 in Davis

The major problem with this entire thread: why are we only discussing 2021-2025? why are we NOT including 2020? Any particular reason? 2020, the year we invested a 1st rd pick and 3 other picks in Diggs and a 7th- while also drafting Gabe Davis in the 4th. Add those picks (and any WRs the chiefs invested in that year) into the math you did and what does the number look like? FTR- I was hoping (then and now) that the Bills would’ve drafted more WRs along the way.

Not sure what my question was. Why people are writing off the chiefs, I assume? I they’ve earned the right to not be written off due to the fact that they’ve been written off by many since they traded Tyreek. All they did was make the SB every year since then. maybe the division being more difficult will push them to the WC- but I don’t see that as being a big problem for them. They beat us in Buffalo in the divisional round 2 years ago. if people want to write them off, that’s their prerogative- I just think it’s premature. I’ll withhold judgement until I see how their offense performs when they get Rice and Worthy back…..and once the trade deadline passes. Tyreek could on his way back and I’d be damned if I didn’t think he would excel there again.

Write off the Bills? I’m certainly not writing off the Bills. I’m VERY confidant that we will win the Super Bowl this season. I don’t understand why people are writing off the chiefs. They’ve been written off since they traded Tyreek. Their offense has been better than average at best- until the playoffs. Then they find a way. They always find a way- partially due to luck- partially due to elite coaching- partially due to making clutch plays. yes- they’re 0-2 and a tougher division now. I get it. But they’re also trying to gel their OL and are without their top 2 WRs. If there’s a team that deserves the benefit of the doubt- it’s the chiefs. But again- I truly believe we will win the SB this season. We just have to stay healthy enough. Losing Benford in the playoffs, again, will probably end our season, again. We need some luck. Champions usually do

The Chiefs were without their WR1 last season. Losing Rice is a massive blow to the offense. Hollywood missed almost all of last season too (while I’m not. Hollywood guy myself, they were counting on him. Their OL was bottom tier. and they still beat us when it mattered. Our defense got rollled by an offense that couldn’t getting rolling all season. It was on us to make plays and we didn’t make enough. if the argument is that they won’t make the playoffs- I’ll believe it when I see it. Two years ago- come November, we were on the outside looking in at even making the playoffs. We turned it around and actually hosted KC in the playoffs. Their O wasn’t very good that year either. And we still lost.

Ok- if that’s the case with Keon, what about Diggs? We traded a 1st + 4th, 5th, 6th for Diggs and a 7th. Yet according to the logic he’s using, means nothing as far as draft investment because we didn’t actually draft him

We used a 1st rd pick on Keon Coleman. He just wasn’t drafted in the 1st round. we used a 1st plus other picks to land Diggs. You’re debating semantics. Looking for a loophole. But there’s no loophole in logic. When the discussion revolves around the investment of draft picks the team has made into the WR position, you can’t remove Keon and Diggs for the discussion just because they weren’t actually drafted in the 1st rd by the bills. The bills acquired them by INVESTING first round picks. Thats the discussion. Don’t be stupid

They really should’ve included a wolf man mask He’s so friggin bad Our problem vs KC is Andy Reid has McD’s in X’s and O’s while Spags is the best in the biz in playoff defensive play calling

That was the case last week with the 4th qtr being garbage time and also with EO injured. All the starters played 67% vs the ravens iirc. Until Hoecht is available, I think the starters will continue around 67%- at that point, I think the DE’s may rotate more

Iirc, we targeted TEs 12 times last week and the WRs 11 times. I think 13 personnel will continue to become more and more prevalent as the season goes on as long as we remain healthy at TE.

He’s 💯 going to have a tremendous season for us- as long as he’s healthy

Not to mention that he called KB a free agent. welcome to the board! Can’t recall seeing you before. Lucky me

I can’t imagine him being better than James Cook. He just continues to get better I can’t recall reading about your Bosa forecasting.

I hope he does good 😀

If he keeps playing like this, he’s going to keep a roster spot. I’m hoping we can make a trade or two before Hairston, Hoecht and Ohinjobi return. Too many players- not enough roster spots. Bass included.

So you’re saying that there are multiple things we can upgrade to help our team win a SB…..not just adding an elite LB.

I agree that Bosa is much more of a McD pro type type DE than Von.

It’s odd to me that not having an elite off ball LB will keep us from winning a SB.