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The Ravens lost makes Monday night a battle for the #1 seeded eell as leader of the AFC East

Hapless The Pats O line is healthy now, but when Big Trent Brown went down for like 5 games (week 2 to 7) Jones got hit a lot. The biggest topic up here was “How much punishment can Jones take before he is injured.” I mean Jones got hit so hard by Dallas Phillips?? That I was expecting him to stay down on the ground. (I’d say the first five weeks he was hit hard and a lot) since Brown has gotten healthy he doesn’t get hit as often and well if Wynn can learn to stop holding it be a great line. (Wynn gets called for holding at least once a game and usually after a big play.. drives me crazy. He IMO is a bust of a 1st round pick. )

I think Mac10 is trademarked already by a rapper. (He wanted that one because that’s the LLC he has) I think he also trademarked MJones10 or at least The guys on the SportsHub said he did up here. Supposedly he wants to start a local clothing line. Good for him make the money while you can.

He may not have a cannon but he can complete deep passes. I remember another thread I thought it was 40+ but they say it was like 32 in the air (perfectly) to Bourne in less than 3 seconds in the pocket. Now I know some can throw it 60+ but to complete that your QB going to have to have a ton of time, I mean how many get 4-5 seconds?

JA was RAW coming out of college, I was shocked he played his rookie year. I didn’t see many games but he had that flash of someone who could be great. When I watch Jones, in 4 losses he led the team on drives that got derailed.. 1. Miami driving down the field and Harris fumbles (it happens but not his fault) 2. Saints - His Worst game as a rookie still in the 4th quarter drives the team down and gets them to with a TD. Then he doesn’t see the ball again. TB - drives the team down, and BB goes for a long FG instead of for it on 4th and 3. Dallas — was in a literal shoot out with Dac and lost in OT.. (did give the team the lead w less than a minute to go) what I am seeing is a QB even against elite teams who has shown flashes of that “it” factor to win games on that last drive of the 4th quarter. Hard point any victories because well most of those been blow outs. Now I could be wrong and this is poof gone next year but right now I am seeing someone who has the potential be a great clutch QB.

Ugh I hate advanced metrics.. that stuff ruining sports.. (more BBall than anything else) but ugh I hate all the metrics.. half the time they go against what your own eyes see. Lol

I should have said both teams have been terrible against the run especially in losses. Jones right now is the best IMO he can be. He isn’t the freak athlete of Mahomes, or the Cannon arm of Allen. His skill set is accuracy and being extremely smart. Some say he has a weak arm, but how would you know? The pats playbook has always been short to intermediate passes. That said when D figure him out if and when he gets to the top 10 level.. we’ll that’s a good issue worry about them lol first let’s see if he is as good as every Pat fan hopes.

I doubt you watch many Pats games. What makes me THINK he has a much higher ceiling is simply how he looks after a mistake. He doesn’t dwell on it and he moves forward and continues to fight. The best example I have of this was when he threw the pick 6 against Dallas (Diggs) the very next play he threw right at Diggs again for a hugs TD pass to get the Pats the lead back.. that’s a trait you can’t teach being able move on from a mistake.. He also seems to be reading defenses better every week, heck he was better at it by week 3 than Cam was all last year. (He literally called out Cleveland when he saw them line up said “You got us this time”) Now will he ever be a huge game breaker with his feet? No but I see his football smarts and the ability to read the D better and get the right play called at the line. But again only time will tell.

The difference is unlike last year the talking heads have a team they want talk about in NE. The Phins were boring and well self sabotaging by putting Tua in instead of riding Fitz.. this year they can have “return of the evil empire” or “The Dark Lord strikes back” so much more fun and brings viewers in… The Bills are still a damn good team and should win the division. They have it right there for them to take. Jones is a rookie, playing as well as you can expect for a rookie. Is he a game manager? Maybe but isn’t that what you want your rookie QB to be? I don’t know what Jones will be 3 or 4 years from now but right now he is better than I thought he be. The difference on Monday night will be who stops the run better IMO. Both teams looked AWFUL against the run.

Dude, it’s all for the money! You don’t believe me look who the top watched team was the last 20 years.. NE. Why? Because people tuned in to cheer against them. why is it so hard for you LOOK at the evidence and realize it’s much to do about nothing. Spygate — NFL black eye? Really? Was about taping signals from the sidelines instead of in the designated spot. It was NOT because they were stealing signals, teams been doing that since the start of football. Also was the perfect excuse to actually even the playing field and out mic inside a defenders helmet. Deflategate — About pressure inside the ball. Per LEAGUE RULES- equipment and Ball infractions are only suppose to be a fine. The league went on a witch hunt used a discredit lab for their work. Meanwhile ESPN LIES and says all the balls were at 10.4 PSI when the truth was only one the rest were with the natural gas law as stated by 13 other independent labs. so you see they made two MINOR things into a major scandal to work people up so they would tune in.. it cost them nothing and they made BILLIONS. see I am all about follow where the money goes.

I am saying they would get motivation from a Patriot saying something like “we are going to smash them” or if the storyline for months was “they are to old” the Pats won the SB that year that was the big headline. (I know that because Brady mentioned it in the post game interview “not bad for old guys huh”

Actually that was a lie made up on ESPN also retracted on late night. They had NOTHING on Brady. They got his texts and of course one leaked out had nothing do with anything to try stir things up. (Peyton Manning text.) What they had was 2 guys texting eachother and one getting agitated because Brady was bitching him out on how the balls were. They had nothing from Brady or his phone. I will never ever defend that one. That was a cheap shot and he should have been suspended for it. I just defend the ones I believe are wrong.

Jauronimo, just look at the evidence. Kraft probably agreed to it for spygate but wasn’t happy about Deflategate crap. The NFL has always had a “bad guy”. It was the Raiders for decades.. they need it it helps sell tickets but more importantly people watch the bad guy.. Now I better be careful because some here are easily agitated by someone defending their team in a thread about their team lol.

Maybe, but NFL fans could be shown video proof of the NFL lying and if the NFL or ESPN didn’t validate it they claim it’s a lie. (Proof? Goodell “Brady lied and said he and the equipment manager never discussed Deflategate” transcripts from actual interview Brady “ I don’t know, we were probably discussing things for the upcoming game but I am sure this came up as well”. But hey.. the commish doesn’t lie..

He trademarked like 20-30 different things to make sure no one profits from him without him getting his cut.. that’s called being smart.

Classy.. no one knows what he did or didn’t do nor does anyone really care. That was between him and his wife. OMG so BB had an affair with a married woman.. so scandalous such a bad guy thing. (Eye roll) Roflmao, see an uninformed “fan” He found out Bridgett Moynihan was pregnant AFTER. They broke up, she says so herself. So what? He should marry her because she was pregnant? What are you living in 1950! They actually have co parented wel and Moynihan and Giselle actual like eachother. (Go figure) NONE of what you point out makes someone a bad guy. Oh no he used a prostitute , my friend we all pay for it one way or another. That way is just more up front. Lol oh look he dated a married woman.. so? He didn’t force her and they were adults who cares! the last one was as Deadpool would put it.. “Lazy writing” anyone even half butt searched that knew you were grasping at nothing.

Ok first Kraft fought a charge that would have given him just probation for soliciting a prostitute nothing more. the Lie about them videotaping practices before the Rams SB was proven to be a lie and the paper was forced to print a retraction. (Amazing how no one knows this) The Bengals sideline thing had nothing to do with football operations and the NFL proved that. (Mind you any idiot would know that since the guy was dressed in full pats gear) deflategate, please do some of your own homework stop believing the NFL. 1 football was below the level of natural gas law. The one intercepted by the Colts. No proof connected Brady to it but the commish can suspend you for eating Ham on rye instead of white if he wishes. So umm how did. Easy win last year? Or when he was on the road. Also anyone looks into that rumor finds out that is also done by the NFL not the team when it shuts off. the fact is they tainted it for only the to lazy to realize the NFL needed a new villain since the Raiders stink.. sadly most NFL to lazy to see they are buying a storyline.

BB wasn’t calling the plays last year, it was considered his son was doing that. He took over after a couple games this year and well the difference has really shown.

I agree with you. The only elites that would motivate them would be from the other team OR if they heard constantly “they are done” which the Bills haven’t. Imo the pressure is squarely on the Bills. NO ONE expected the Pats be fighting for the division and a loss just prove they need a couple more pieces. (Like a #1 WR or a another good CB) meanwhile if the Pats win, then the talk of “what happened to the Bills” starts. Your at home with the better WR and QB on Monday night.. of the two QBs who would be roasted harder for having an off night? Allen or Jones? If Diggs ends the night with 2 20 yards 0 TDs or Bourne has the same which one is called out on message boards and ESPN? exactly and the Bills know it thus the pressure. The Bills are the more talented team. Now will the more disciplined team (Pats among fewest penalties in 12 games) beat the other who is less disciplined (Bills top 4 when you take only 11 games played). We don’t know, hopefully it’s a stub and good game.

Lol he went and copy writes a lot of things not jus MJ10. He just doesn’t want people profiting off him without him getting his money. That’s just being smart.

😂 you know that was always going on? Teams were stealing signals for years it’s where they stole it that got them in trouble.. mind you why the NFL didn’t give the D a microphone to call plays in like the O years ago was just silly.

Totally different strengths coming in. Mayfield knock was he was to small and QBs from spread O Don’t tend to succeed in the NFL. Jones knocks were he came from a stacked team with amazing WR, and his arm strength may not be elite, also isn’t mobile. His strengths were his football smarts and the fact he came from a Pro style program in Alabama. We don’t know about Jones yet, but I’ll take the smart kid with the quick release who can read D every time. Again he IMO went to the right team make him as good as he can be. Did he play any other years in NE with BB and McDaniels? If not that proves the other teams stunk and didn’t know how to use him. Also forget he was traded because NE at the time had the GOAT.

Your assuming they win in OT. They could easily have lost both as well.

They were undefeated in the regular season the year before Cassell took the team to an 11-5 season. Why?

I can get plain tickets now for $200 round trip to Buffalo. That’s cheap.what could keep people home is it’s a Monday instead of a Sunday.