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If NaKeal Harry isn’t a Moron and touch that punt pats win 14-3. Also let’s face it the Bills were gifted the FG as well by that horrible personal foul call. (Pushing Allen out of bounds when he leaped in the air.) Point is both teams could have had more and or less points.

It was also the first time he has ever played in that kind of weather. They and Jones both didn’t know what he could do. Since the Bills D couldn’t stop the run till the 4th quarter they didn’t need to. Com ok eating 70% of your passes is deadly accurate…

Well how many good AFC teams are there this year? NE, Buffalo, KC, Ravens… then a bunch of others.. the Pats did beat up the Browns D which is I believe too 10 in points allowed.. I agree, but does your D stop the Pats more than once if it’s a balanced O attack. Yes Jones doesn’t have a cannon but he is deadly accurate and in normal weather you out 10 in the box he will burn them. Mind you I don’t see the Pats D stopping the Bills much either in good weather

He saw it all the way. He has really good hands too. He broke on that ball better than the WR did. The stat sheet says he wasn’t wrong..

On the hole he didn’t, but he got lucky on one pass.. Jackson normally catches that and runs it back for 6. But on the hole his throws were good when he had time.

Keep your head up dude! Bills could have won tonight. A couple plays break differently and it’s a totally different game. In3 weeks we have the final matchup for the division.

The play in the end zone the fans want PI but when I rewatched it it looked clean if anything Knox pushed off to get open a bit. Don’t know what the fans saw there. Also can someone explain to me the logic of not going for 2 to tie the game at 8? I thought for sure they would.

Lol NE can be just as bad as Buffalo.. could be a dang Blizzard that day.. lol

Hey your D can’t stop the run when you knew it was coming. Imagine if they mixed it up.. like I said 38-35 type game in good weather. Your D without Tre doesn’t scare me in the secondary and well your front 7 can’t stop the run by themselves.. so yes a shootout..

They never had to throw. They had a lead all game. Any other coaching staff I’d agree but not this group they knew what they wanted and were not going to do anything to hurt Jones confidence.

Oh in good weather I think it’s a shootout.. because your O weapons are dang good and well the Pats can run and set up PA as well.. in good weather it’s like 38-35

Yes I do. Why wouldn’t I? Tonight they smashed the ball against the Bills but with the wind they just didn’t want to risk it.. but could he have completed more? Sure and as a dmfan I was like just one PA Pass PLEASE!!

Harris got injured, before then he had the long run and 2 17 yard runs and one of those IMO he goes all the way if his Hammy didn’t hurt. Also getting 4+ per carry when you knew they were going to run is still impressive. Your are right in good weather you stack the box and Jones throws it.. you don’t stack the box I think they run all over the D.

Don’t forget 7 of the Bills points came because N’Keal Harry was an idiot and didn’t get away from the dang punt. Why didn’t they go for 2 there to tie?

They didn’t need him, they ran for over 200 yards and you stacked the box all night. Mind you the game been different if Harris didn’t hurt his Hammy in the 3rd quarter.

Honest question.. it helped the Bills D as well. I mean if you put 10 in the box in normal weather Jones will complete the pass for 10-20 yards and if you don’t have 10 in would they be able to stop Harris and Stevenson? Oops quotes the wrong person my bad

That wasn’t a pretty game to watch, but damn was it close to the end. IMO it came down to just a couple of things: 1. Buffalo D inability stop the run even with 10 in the box. 2. drops by Knox killed the Bills O a few times. If I am honest the next meeting could go either way! Don’t be to hard on your Bills they played hard just came up a couple plays short this time.

As a fan, the game that scares me outside of Buffalo is Indy. I actually fear them more because if there is one area the Pats D has looked awful at times it’s against the run. Miami I expect a win, but again a close game. tonight? I think the pressure is on Buffalo. I say this because if the Pats lose (even badly) people just say “ learning experience for a rookie” or “hey it’s year 2 of a rebuild” meanwhile if the Bills loss I can only imagine what they would be saying. Also is there a chance the Bills come out flat after their mini bye week.?

I can’t believe the Ravens lost. They got every break the refs could give them, phantom calls on Pitt, penalties that made you wonder what exactly happened… I am glad they lost makes the first seed very attainable..

I don’t watch much TV. (I only stream stuff now and watching MNF on my phone.) So nationally I really don’t know what the talking heads say unless It makes FB like the “rise of the empire” from NFL Network. only comparison I see to Brady is the style the team is doing. That is they are doing the same thing for Mac that they did with Brady in 01. Asking him to only not LOSE the game and let the D win it. (Not saying he is Brady just that the style of play and the feel the team has to me feels like the old 2001 group.)

It would make TB a must win for the Bills I believe.. I could be wrong but a loss to NE and TB and you need to win out and hope someone else beats NE as well.

The biggest comparison I have heard Jones to Brady has been to 2001. In that respect the teams are very similar. That is to say it relies heavily on its D and Special Teams and the O is a run first and don’t make mistakes. Mind you I watch VERY little of ESPN and haven’t watched them for years.

You clearly missed the TB and Dallas game where he was hit like a rented mule but still put up damn good numbers for a rookie. Oh and he also gave the Pats the lead against Dallas with less than a minute to go. red zone word how you determine Star QBs. So the facts that play calling for 4 straight runs or lack of a WR get open is on the QB? Oh wait if he could run that make the difference.. Ugh The truth is they call Plays to LIKIT the chance of a TO so they at least walk away with 3, why? Because with their D they are more than likely going be fine especially if the offense scores on almost every possession (they are averaging less than 3 punts a game and less than 2 in this winning streak). Jones isn’t overhyped up here our talking heads saying crap just get people listen.. the truth is he is doing amazing for a rookie and better than a lot of the vets out there.

Also let’s not forget Mayfield went to a team that hadn’t been even mediocre for a long time! They went 0-16 to get him I believe. So he walks in and wins 7 games he is seen as the savior. Meanwhile Jones goes to NE where they were just mediocre for one year, and if we are honest he is filling perhaps the biggest shoes of any rookie QB with the Brady fresh in everyone’s mind. Slacking off here and demands here won’t work, there is only one sheriff in this town and he wears the hoodie. like you said I don’t have a clue how good Jones will be but reports are he is a film room junkie and is always wanting to learn more. I hope he ends up being great, but no one truly knows and Baker and him are vastly different QBs and NO ONE thought Baker was close to his ceiling. I never understood how draft “experts” know how close any kid who is 22 or 23 is to their ceiling?

Excellent take. Right now Jones is the best anyone who is a Pats fan could hope for right now. What he is in 3-4 years only time will tell.