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Ahh but if you lose you still lose the challenge and you only have 2 strikes before your out of challenges. So IMO the coaches still have to be smart about when to throw the flag.

Any ideas? I agree they mess up way to often.. for example the two trips called against Dallas a couple weeks ago in NE. (I believe those were honest mistakes just like ruling Kelse down yesterday was an honest mistake as well as calling Harry OOB.) Again I wasn’t talking just about the Pats this has happened numerous times threw out the league. I thought this rule is there already and this is a rather minor tweek that wouldn’t tick off the refs and or team for any reason.

Oh I agree was a poor decision there! I was trying keep the Pats out of it and talking in general about tweeting the rule is all. Would it be a bad idea to keep a challenge unless you lose your challenge on that play? I think keep refs a bit more honest if they knew the challenge was still there.

An idea seeing as how so many bad calls are unable be challenged if you lose 1 of 2 challenges. My idea is simple, if you win the challenge you still have 2 challenges left if you lose goes to 1 and lose a time out. (Or if you have 1 you still have 1 left if won.). Seems like a plausible fix that way you always have a challenge left as long as you don’t lose two. thoughts? I know it isn’t perfect or solve every issue but a small fix at least.

Be a great way to find decent replacements when the injury bug hits a team too.. so maybe just maybe teams don’t fall of the map from 3 or 4 key injuries.

Last week the weather helped BOTH Defenses in the Dallas/Pats game. Passing was just very difficult with the wind and the rain made the ball very hard to catch.. there were a lot of dropped balls and balls just thrown poorly on both sides. i agree running is key for the Bills as the Boys been hashed the last few weeks by the run. I just don’t know the Bills CB well enough to know if they are good enough to cover all 3 WR as well as Elliot out of the backfield.. I will bow to your better knowledge. IMO to win the Bills need score 30 points, your D stop the Biys at times but shut them down under 20 is not only unfair it’s not realistic in a dome stadium in Dallas.

He has never played a down here.. the weak link was Newhouse who Wynn has replaced at LT.

Cleveland is a much better team than their record shows, their problem terrible terrible coaching! But they have turned it around. (Oh they have also beaten the Ravens and in a blowout type fashion! ) Philly is a good team when healthy, the last few weeks they been playing with 2nd and 3rd stringers a lot. Also I’m not a huge fan of their HC.. but he isn’t terrible. Dallas, has more talent than both those teams on D and have some amazing talent on O.. (with one of the. Eat O lines in football) With their talent level they should be 10-1 or at worse 8-3.. why are they 6-5.. I dare say their HC! Going for a FG when you need a TD to win? Knowing your O struggled all day to move the ball.. ya he is toast after this year. so all 3 teams have amazing talent and are more than capable of winning purely on that. Dallas by every right should beat down the Bills based on talent alone! Will they? NOPE.. why? Because Garrett will do something stupid like throw the ball when Elliot is getting huge gains on the ground or run the ball when Dak is carving up the secondary.. the Bills huge advantage is better HC, and hopefully a better game plan. (Run Singletary a lot, Michel averaged 4.5 a carry in that miserable weather Sunday.. )

Ok just so this doesn’t become a Allen hate/love fest let’s remove him from the equation. My top 5 QBs under 30 are: 1. Mahomes - second year still putting up amazing numbers even though he been hurt.. Negative: Hard find one but I will go with unable win the big matchup.. 2. Jackson - I am not a fan of his style and fee he will be a flash in the pan, but right now he is top 2. Negative: hasn’t even played a full year yet, will it last? 3. Garoppolo — his stats are not gaudy but he has all of 2 losses in his entire career. Negative: Fragile like glass 4. Watson — amazing arm and escape ability can make any throws needed. Negative: not fragile but definitely injury prone so far. 5.Prescott — has looked good but inconsistent, top 5 because he has had success in the league. Negative: inconsistent and lots people think Zeke is more important to the team I love my top 4 but the 5th one was hard. What do you guys think?

They only lost by 3 to the Ravens the last time they met.. and that took OT and 2 missed FG for the Ravens pull out.. and we all know how conference teams are.. good or bad they are never an easy win.

they have excellent RB,, and RPO will only work so long before teams just decide take the QB every time.. he throws a nice ball? We must be watching a different QB, he is sort of accurate but zero zip on the ball and thanks to Harbaugh design almost every pass is to a WIDE OPEN receiver. Jackson forced to throw the Ravens will lose against a good team. He averages less than 250 yards a game.. I also notice when the other team scores 21 or more points they are 1-2 with the one win being in Pitt after Pitt missed 2 FG. I stand by my assessment force him to throw to win and they will usually fail.

They are the number 6 seed right now.

Good point Gugny! But the Rams O has been so bad this year just look at stats wise. Could Gurley being on the downside be the reason? The Ravens IMO are the class of the AFC this year just like KC was last year.. be fun see how they do the second time around against teams in the playoffs. (KC,NE,Pitt,Buff, Houston all be their second crack at then whoever it is)

Can someone explain to me what happen to the super genius and the next great HC McVay this year? That had to be the most predictable offense I have seen all year. Absolutely horrid play calling and execution. on a side note, everyone says how bad the Pats O is, but yet they have scored more than the Texans, Rams Combined against the Ravens.. hell the Pats v Ravens game was close until Edelmans fumble in the third quarter. (The Pats were down by 4 when that happened)

He is definitely better than I expected, but he is not a VERY good QB.. he is a run first throw second QB. It will be very interesting how well they do once the NFL figures them out which they will. This style will fool a HC once but if he has the right personnel it won’t fool him a second time.

Like Bosa hitting Jackson like a pinyata! I am convinced the key to beating them is getting out to an early lead.. get a 14 point lead and they need change their game plan. Their plan is a long time consuming drive.. a fast pressure D like SF SHOULD negate a lot of what they do and I am so wanting see how Jackson is after he gets a true hard hit.

The Ravens throw to their TE more than any other NFL team. You need be able cover them as well as watch out for their version of the option play, which is almost faking the handoff and standing there hiding the ball well and when you choose the RB he runs right by you. Right now the Ravens winning with College style plays drawn up just a bit differently and relying heravily in TE for catches with the occasional big shot to Hollywood.

Yet the cowboys have not beaten a team over .500 yet. All there wins from sub .500 teams.. be an interesting game Thursday. Both teams have a lot to prove, and both playing for the playoffs.

That could play against the Bills. They could come out angry and wanting to punch the bills hard in the mouth, especially at home. i don’t see how the Bills win against the Ravens anyways, your biggest weakness on D is their biggest strength.. running the football. I hope I’m wrong because I’d like see the Bills beat the Ravens.. give everyone a good blue print how to do it..

Baltimore has be the favorite in the AFC, followed by NE. The Patriots are probably the only 10-1 team in history be called “average to poor team” lol. in the NFC i day the 49ers just made a statement that they are for real and their #1 threat be the Saints. my guess the SB: Pats V 49ers the NFL would love it and want that game.

I don’t know about that.. I’m just grateful Carroll three the ball instead of running it. Lol

Hey there is nothing wrong with stealing a game! All good/great teams do. The Patriots STOLE that game from the Bills in Buffalo.

I agree! If he had the Bills lose.. that was the one game the Bills stole victory from the jaws of defeat!

I hate all the whining and Bashing regarding schedules. They play who they are scheduled to play! The games are determined years in advance and that’s that. We all make fun or lampoon them if they lost to these teams but when they win we feel “well look at how bad these teams are” ugh

The jets LOST that game more than the bills won it. Had like 3 missed FG and the Bills O did everything they could in the first half to hand them that game. it will be a better test this next meeting.. let’s see if the Bills D have Darnold seeing Ghosts again. Lol