MarlinTheMagician

Instead, eject him forcibly.

Also benched by Cleveland for "disciplinary reasons" Stefanski was classy enough to "keep internal" and has his Daddy crying for him over targets on social media. No thanks. As if things are not bad enough for the Cleveland Browns, fans had a horrible deja-vu moment when wide receiver Elijah Moore's father complained about his son's lack of targets on social media. Moore's father expressed disgust with his son's single target during the Week 4 loss to the Las Vegas Raiders.

You're right, Moore is an absolute a**hole and Hamler is not. I remember this guy vividly with the Jets and I REALLY don't want him. Contemporary news report: Shortly before Elijah Moore requested a trade from the Jets in October, the receiver was sent home from practice after reportedly voicing his frustrationand displeasure with his role in New York's offense. Moore wasn't getting the ball, producing numbers that paled in comparison to his promising performance as a rookie in 2021. Three months later, more details have emerged from that outburst that took place behind closed doors, a situation that involved a confrontation with former offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur. According to Zack Rosenblatt of The Athletic, Moore told LaFleur to "go f— yourself" in practice after he was held without a catch in a win over the Packers in Week 6. Here's more from Rosenblatt on the heated exchange: His frustration spilled into practice that week. That Thursday, Moore surprised teammates and coaches by blowing up on LaFleur, telling him to “go f— yourself” and “you suck,” according to multiple people who witnessed the interaction. LaFleur and Saleh ultimately decided to send Moore home to cool off. That night, he requested a trade.

Agree with everything except "he's better than Shavers." I don't necessarily disagree with that either, but what do we base that on? Shavers has been in the lab working on his body and the offense for two years. How do we know how good he is at this point? We do well developing OL on the PS - if we don't think Shavers (or Hamlin, or Virgil) can ever be promoted, we need to get different guys on the PS that have traits suggesting they could come up and win a job at some point if they develop. Same with Shavers. If we need a fast little guy we already have one in Hamler. Not sure we need that - Shavers brings something different. They clearly like Virgil too. The only FA WRs I would want are Allen or maybe Cooper if the Bills think injury hurt his performance.

I don't know. Seems like JAG to me - speedy little guy with a potentially bad attitude. He was picked slightly higher than Hamler, but they are pretty similar -- they are both very fast slots, and, admittedly, Moore is somewhat more accomplished in college (and meaningfully more in the pros). But the league valued them closely not long ago, and Hamler has put his ego on the shelf and put in two years of work to earn his way on to our team. Personally, if we feel compelled to dumpster dive for a WR, I would rather have Keenan Allen, forget the fantasy of 4.35 speed (for now), and move the chains with a proven pro like Allen. See below: Moore’s second-round draft capital (34th overall to the Jets) reflected stronger consensus compared to Hamler’s late-second-round selection (46th overall to Denver), with scouts citing Moore’s polish and YAC ability as translatable NFL traits. Both profiled as slot-dependent receivers, but Moore’s college production against SEC competition and technical proficiency made him the safer projection. Elijah Moore's Reputation Recent reports suggest attitude concerns have emerged. During the 2024 season, the Browns benched Moore early in a game against the Bengals for disciplinary reasons, though specifics were undisclosed. Additionally, Reddit discussions speculate about a potential locker-room issue, with one commenter alleging a combination of "lack of skill" and "negative influence" as factors in his unsigned free-agent status.

We got two perimeter corners, Hairston and a back-up (Strong). Both great picks, IMHO. Beane already said Hancock will play safety and back-up the slot. Both of those are big time needs. So love that pick too. When Rapp leaves, Bishop is more of a strong safety. Hancock more of a free. When Tre White and Dane Jackson leave, it is Benford, Hairston, and Strong as our primary back-up. That is definitely not excessive. This all seems like excellent team building for now and the future to me.

But maybe think of it as two corners and one safety that can back up the slot. Seems very reasonable - safety and two corners. The cupboard was very bare.

This makes sense to me. Dane will be one of the friendly vet PS players maybe.

Dorian Strong suggests to me Hancock is a safety for the Bills.

CB ad Safety, 4.45, have to like it.

I probably would have preferred West, but the upside here is undeniable. Everything says he needs conditioning, wears down. Get him out of Kentucky, on an NFL diet and in an NFL weight room and he seems to have unlimited potential.

Stackhouse, Cam Jackson, Zeek Biggers - there are run stuffers out there. Walker - sounds like he has a quick 1st step but can't destruct double teams because he plays too high. Can be coached some, but some analysts say he will always play high given his height and lack of bend. Not a crazy shot at this point in the draft though. We could even take two of those guys and let them fight it out for a spot.

Done one thing only: Two championship games, five division titles and players like Milano, Dawkins, Tre White, Shakir, Kincaid, Bernard, Micah Hyde, Benford, Spencer Brown, Torrence, Poyer, Cook, Oliver, Rousseau, Taron Johnson, John Brown, Cole Beasley, Diggs, among others, are decent players they have brought here, and they all say hello.

There are fat tubs of goo remaining - Cam Jackson and Nazir Stackhouse are 2-down one techs that can stop the run. They will be there. I think a big guy (albeit slightly less big) with movement skills like Sanders is harder to find. The only huge DT left with movement was Al Collins and they clearly liked Sanders better. They did not have a reasonable shot at guys like Grant, Harmon or Tyleek Williams. So give 'em a break.

When the draft picks are put with the free agents, like 1/2 our D stands to be new players. Will be a very, very different D. Check it, and not done yet: Joey Bosa, Larry Ogunjobi, Tre White, Michael Hoecht, Dane Jackson, Darrick Forrest. Maxwell Hairston TJ Sanders Landon Jackson

We have added some athletes - D needed them. More to come.

I just can't believe the before video of him slapping the tackling dummy. What the heck? Those gloves - I just can't stop laughing when I watch it. Glad there is the combine comparison or I would be crying instead 😁😁🤣

I am so glad he has his hands and feet connected -- almost impossible to play edge with your hands and feet disconnected 😄

ESPN Landon Jackson comp Epenesa, and Jaylin Noel comp is Shakir. Not sure either is correct.

Yeah baby! I have to take Beane's word for it on Sanders, wanted 25 more lbs. But couldn't be happier with Landon Jackson. CB, DT, DE - what I mocked to us about 1,000 times using the sim sites. Couldn't have seen it going this way! Nothing but joy.

I preferred Collins, but what do any of us know? I trust our team if that is who they liked. The whining on the board over this is the best I have heard since "we took the wrong Josh." Let's hope that is an omen! Let's go TJ!!

Love the pick. Seems like a great young man, fast as hell. Complimentary to Benford. Let's go!

Is there any thought Ingram could compete to start? I know he is kind of slow, but his teammates have raved publicly about his work ethic and performance in practice (Von and someone else I respected the year before last). Could he get a shot?

When discussing Beane's record, pulling off this trade is often overlooked. Dawkins had proved he could handle the job the prior year when Glenn was hurt. Not only did we move from 21 to 12, we dumped a bunch of salary. He was only 28 when traded, but played in only 19 games for the Bengals, 18 as a starter. The trade put us in striking distance -- and now we have Mr. Buffalo and The Queen of Buffalo. Dawkins was released March 2020. He has never filed his retirement papers and is only 35 - we can get him back as a depth piece 🙂

Funny, that would actually not be terrible. Except I have no idea who Gee Scott is!