Thurmal34

If we were playing to our strength and still getting beat I'd be a lot less frustrated with 2012. It just sucks every last bit of enthusiasm out of me to watch us blow game after game trying to do things we aren't good at.

True, but at least it was there. This year it seems like every deep throw is a pick u can call from your living room. What changed?

I think the most puzzling thing is he's been able to do this in the past, with confidence and authority. Why cant he do it this year?

Hang on, u guys talking about that FG late in Q2 that got the Bills their first points? That was absolutely the right call IMO. Take the 3 and get the ball to start Q3. It actually worked out even better than Gailey could have planned as they were able to snake yet another 3 out before the half. No problem with that decision at all.

It's an absolute outrage.

This. Bought really nice seats, booked my flight back in July, and was just thrilled for my first ever night game after 30 + day games at The Ralph. Now the only reason i'm looking forward to it is hanging at Hammer's Lot and partying with the TBDers (not that that's a bad thing, but it's not worth $750!). We suck.

Exactly. It also makes a game managing QB far more effective when its time for play action. Why the hell dont we run 40-50 times a game? I totally agree. I bet Nate Solder would own Bruce Smith.

5'10 195-205?

Agree and disagree. There is no doubt teams overload vs the run because Fitz cant throw long. However, in a 3rd and 2/3/4 type scenario, the box is going to be stuffed anyway. I'm simply advocating using your strength and daring them to stop it. If, after myriad attempts to run out of these situations, the Bills continue to get stuffed, then fine, empty the backfield and try something new. But the fact is they dont even try to impose their will via the run game on 3rd and makeable, and a team that plays in our weather with our backs and OL that does not do that is doomed.

Yep, exactly. Fred is perfect in 3rd and 2 with 2 TEs and a FB. Who cares that the D knows what's coming? Get 3!! For all of Thurman's amazing highlights, what made him truly great was his ability to get that unglamourous 3.2 yards on 3rd and 3 late in the third or early in the fourth. We have thet type of team now. It's maddening that we dont use it.

This is the issue. I don't think there is a Bills fan out there that thinks our passing game is better than our run game. So why do we continue to downplay the run and highlight the pass? Please don't answer with "because it's a passing league". Just don't. Could not agree more. To take it a bit further (or farther, up yours grammar police), you have to run when the opposing D knows you are running and get the distance anyway. It seems like that's Chan Gump's biggest flaw. He isnt willing, on 3rd and 2, to simply line up in a run formation with his bruisers and dare them to stop it. He'd rather try to fool the other team. How's that been working out?

Agree here, was Williams' best game to date.

The fatal flaw in Bill's crusade against Spiller is, to your point, we have the PERFECT backup for him. Bill claims Spiller cant handle the load at his size.Fine, if that's his big sticking point, then Fred Jacson says hello..I mean dont we have the perfect guy to spell Spiller? We dont have that player at QB. However, we do at RB. In fact, I would argue that Spiller is one of, if not the best players (yes I said players not just backs) in football and should be given the chance to affect the outcome of a game in the same way the above mentioned players are. At the very worst, he should be given more chances to affect the outcome than Ryan Fitzpatrick is given.

I hear ya. This mentality is mind numbing. Hey, since it's a passing league, why not throw 23 passes vs 3 rushes in the second half while only down by one? After all, it's a passing league and our best player will never carry this team!

Who will then, Bill? He is clearly, far and away, without a doubt, the best football player on the Buffalo Bills roster. There is no disputing this fact, is there? Why, in your opinion, will he never carry this this team?

Was he smoking?

Right, Welker was so ineffective with Mijami that the Pats gave up a 2nd and a 7th to a DIVISION RIVAL to acquire him. Welker caught 67 passes from Joey Freaking Harrington and a gassed Daunte Culpepper in 06 for a robust 10.3 YPC. In 07 he caught almost double that number (112) but the YPC was the same (10.5). You do the math. He was excellent without Brady, and remained excellent with him. He just saw more targets. The guy is an elite player, with or without Brady's pass first offense.

CJ Spiller is the best player on our team and when given a chance to tote the rock 15 + times per game he's been one of the best players in football. The numbers bear that out. PFF ran some stats last year and from the time FredEx went down (i paraphrase) Spiller was top 5 in the league in yards behind only Megatron, Ray Rice, and some other Schmoe who's name escapes me ATM (LeSean McCoy?). They actually graded him as the best back in football during that stretch based on his total package, INCLUDING blocking. I have no idea why Gailey insists on a 50/50 split. You have to put your best talent on the field. Spiller is clearly our 20-25 carry guy. It's not debatable. He's explosive, he knows all the blocking assignments, and has learned how to settle for the 3-4 yard gain. Fred is our 3rd down slash 8-10 carry slash goal line guy. There's nothing wrong with that. I love what Fred has done for this team and what he represents. But he is the inferior player to Spiller. If Gailey continues this 50/50 nonsense he deserves to lose his job. There is no excuse for not putting your best talent on the field the majority of the time.

Fred's injury was to his left knee, right? In this tweeted pic from today's practice the brace is on his right knee. http://say.ly/zaz4fM0 What's going on here?

Maybe it's the coffee talking, but I can't shake the feeling that we'll have both Spiller and Jackson available for the New England game. Nothing substatial whatsoever to base this on, just a hunch.

Tim G just tweeted that Spiller has full range of motion, not in a sling, but that pain and swelling an issue. Sez Spiller might play Sunday.

No chance he takes a discount to stay in NE. That relationship is over. He did them a favor by signing a tender early so he could show up to camp on time. They turned around and !@#$ed him up the ass. Not only that, but they were actively working to diminish his value on the open market till Hernandez got hurt. There is no chance Welker would sacrifice any personal gain to stay in NE. He already did that once and got screwed. He'll be a pro on the field this year but lets hope that bad blood permeates through the Pats locker room and they all get a taste of how they will be treated contractually once they are on the wrong side of 30. They have created a problem where one didnt exist.

Just got in to town from Boston, sec 137 row 20. Let's go Buffalo!

No.

Bitching about Spiller's fumble is the height of idiocy. I will take 169 yds rushing, 25 yds receiving, a TD and a fumble every freaking week. I can't believe ppl are really complaining about his fumble. The guy averaged 12 yds a carry and was pretty much the best back in the NFL today. He needs better ball security, sure, but i'll take the bad with the good with this guy. Over his last 8 games he has looked like one of, if not the best, players in football.