Thurmal34

Do you have the numbers to back this up? Bill James sez clutch is for simpletons. He has? Link it. IMO the most misinterpreted (eagerly) comment of all time. Please provide a link to him saying this fact he has in your words admitted. Prove it. With science, not supposition

Luckily no one beats the Wiz

Nope. Hopefully the Bills can stay off that list till after week 16. Don't believe the hype.

People that eschew math in favor of instinct are idiots. Math wins every single time. Decisions based on proven formulas are always correct.

Maybe you guys weren't listening when Brandon said "we are going to be an aggressive, attacking organization". Whether you tactically agree or not, the Bills told you strategically what they were going to do before they even hired a HC. What's with the surprise? Did you hear Trestman explain it afterward? It was clear that he knew EXACTLY what he was doing, and he backed it up with percentages to support his decision making process based on down, distance, and probability. You sound like one of the scouts at the table in Moneyball. Decisions based on math and science trump decisions based on "3 yards and a cloud of dust" every time.

Well, clearly we need to define the criteria before we indict Beerball. If it's scooting to the side while a weak bladdered Thurmal34 abuses the nearest Men's Can...then he is guilty as charged I say!

As much as I hate to see that as well, Owens has better numbers in every category. That said, "Undre" is top 12 all time in every cat. At some point he is getting in. Let's hope it's this year.

When I first looked at this text on my phone I read it as they had signed up for a subscription to Juggs.

While technically true, it's clear that they had a plan for what they wanted at WR and executed it during the draft.

Goodwin and Graham's games juxtaposed against Nelson's invisibility today spoke volumes about why the Bills chose not to tender him.

Nelson wasn't released. The Bills clearly had a plan to upgrade at WR and executed that plan in the 2013 draft with Bob Woods and Mark Goodwin. It's too bad Nelson's feelings are hurt, but that's business in the NFL. Happens all over the league, all the time. Highly doubt Pettine is coming up with creative ways to game plan for Dave Nelson.

Agreed. Additionally, once the department matures, I expect Brandon's comments about salary cap management vis a vis analytics to more clearly come to fruition. Maybe there's a FA WR on the market that runs two routes particularly effectively but struggles at running 3 others. It so happens that the Bills O calls for those two routes far more often than other offenses do, and the Bills are able to sign this WR for pennies on the dollar. They then use him to only run these two routes and nothing else. It can work the opposite way as well. Lets say based on film study they chart that a AFCE rival CB gives up a catch 78% of the time vs a certain route over the course of his career. More info is ALWAYS better, even if you dont use it.

So you are saying no one considered his 5.1 average in six games as a starter after Fred went down on '11 as something to build on? Awesome year by JC, and he remains one of the true beast RBs in the game. Just because you may think something, does not make it true. A cursory glance at his career trajectory shows a player on pace for 10,000 career rushing yards and 4000 career receiving yards. That's Hall of Fame production therefore, and dare i say, on pace to be one of the greatest RBs of all time. The most productive thing Terry Metcalf ever did on a football field was produce Eric. Spiller's young career is already superior to Terry's lifetime body of work. Look, in order to truly discredit Spiller and have anyone take you seriously, you have to include his body of work dating back to the end of 2011, which makes your case less plausible. He carried the load admirably after Freddy went down and continued that production into 2012, which reduces your argument to nothing more than opposing teams did not prepare for him. If that's what you are saying, then that's their fault. My expectation is that he was thoroughly prepared for, based on what we know about NFL coaches' work habits. I'm not saying he's an every down down grinder like AP, but comparing him to Terry freaking Metcalf is below you. You can do far better than that.

It's uncanny that you have this figured out but it has not yet dawned on NFL defensive coordinators.

Sam Cowart 2.0, without the injury(s).

[/sarc on] This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen posted on this board. Imagine the folly of trusting a decision of this magnitude to a bunch of coaches that have done nothing but watch, analyze, and evaluate these players since OTAs. [/sarc off] Leave this board immediately. You have no place here.

Carpenter looks just like Ned Stark.

My first instinct was Freddy, but I had to go with Stevie b/c of all the time FJ missed in '11 and '12.

Yup on all counts. Esp at TE. Need a game breaker there badly.

When did the Chefs become a good team and organization?

The fastest player to get to 1,000 yards since 1934 is now a situational back?

I'm not sure if your ax is being ground with the Bills FO for selecting Gilmore or if it's with Gilmore himself, but you better find another whipping boy in either case. Gilmore was more than fine in his first action of the 2013 season, and even by not playing in 13 has had a better year than the DBs selected ahead of him. The true measure of what will make it a great pick or not is if the Bills can keep him beyond 2017.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz-mJed_bP0

This sounds like a career ender for him.