Thurmal34

What the?

I liked how Skip said it was "debatable" when Sherman told him he wasn't top 22 in his chosen field. Pssst, Skip, it isn't. You aren't.

Meh. Who cares. Nelson is average on his very, very, best day. For your sake I hope this is sarcasm.

By who, you? Jones, Nelson, Barnett, Merriman, and Wilson clearly were not considered "core" guys by OBD. All the evidence says otherwise. You listed two UDFAs, a castoff that signed late in FA, a mid-season waiver claim, and an old vet that was given a team friendly extension prior to '11. This is what you are using to grind your axe? If you want to complain about Fitz and Levitre, fine, go ahead. But for the sake of all that is holy, please don't try to spin it like OBD ever said they were going to build around David freaking Nelson. Get a grip man. By "large" you mean Kolb and Cassel money, right?

And yet people here still complain the Bills didn't draft Dalton.

Far from it. Dalton, to me, is "meh". Every measureable about the guy screams middle of the pack.

Really dude?

What does Dalton sucking at the QB position have to do with Fitz?

Dalton sucks.

What upgrades are needed on the DL? Also, secondary isn't all pro, but come on, it's as deep as it's been in some time, hence the release of Wilson. Searcy has arrived, and if Williams is the nickel or moved to safety then i really like it. Buddy has built from the lines out. Has he bricked on some picks? Of course. Would we all love to have CK or RW? YES! However, this is the guy that got us Glenn, Carrington, Mario, Urbik, Rinehart, Pears, and Dareus and has worked to re ink OL and DL depth including Colin Brown Sam Young etc. I think we can all agree he mis-targeted CK and RW, perhaps thinking they would go a round later. But wtf guys? For years we have complained about our interior being soft on both sides. Now we finally have a GM willing to address that first and we want to run him out of town because he didn't draft Andy Freakin Dalton?

Who, prior to the post i am quoting, said Nelson "sucks"? Please stop being such a reactionary hand wringer. It's David Freaking Nelson, not Dez Bryant. Get a grip, dude. If he stays, great. If the Bills don't think he is worth a 2nd round tender, well then who can blame them? You have some balls telling us how awesome you are in the talent evaluation department and then in the same breath comparing a 30 catch a year guy to Phat Pat, Antoine, etc. It is the height of idiocy.

Gailey supporter?

Difference being if Williams gets beat out at LDE, his primary position, odds are he will beat someone else out at RDE. If, god forbid, he gets beat out at RDE, there's always OLB. There are four possible positions for him to play before being relegated to the bench. For Fitz or Jackson, not so much

I love Fred too, but come on. Fred is solid. Spiller is elite.

Re-read my post. I'm simply saying that the injury concerns surrounding Gronkowski coming out of college seem to have some teeth. Nothing more.

Nix gets a ton of crap for not taking Gronk over Troup, and I get it. But, IIRC Gronk missed his entire pre draft year due to injury. Now it seems he's living up to his pre draft reports - stud when healthy but injured often.

So this rumor gets floated at the same time the Fitz asked to restructure rumor comes out. Color me cynical.

Good idea. While we're at it, let's not let anyone who has been convicted of a felony and subsequently paid their debt re-enter the work force.

This is out of hand. Nix has stated since Y1 that if there was a "10 year guy" there he would take him. It's clear he didn't see Kap or Wilson as 10 year guys. I can live with that. How many here saw them as "10 year guys"? Many on this board may have been intrigued with these guys, but few were saying they were "build around me for 10 years" type players. Buddy isn't hard to figure out. He told all of you what he was going to do. How can anyone be confused? It was very clear. To paraphase NIx: "If there's a guy there that we feel can be a 10 year guy, we'll take him. Otherwise, we'll build until we find a guy we can plug in to a developed system." Why are folks angry or confused? Why do folks keep saying he overpaid Fitz? Why are people griping that the Bills don't have Dalton or Ponder?

eball is cheap.

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Watched this dude's interview on bb.com, love that he is quiet and reserved on camera, almost the opposite of the "im so excited Marrone" (not that Marrone's enthuiasm is bad, Pettine just seems to belay an authoritative confidence is all) and IMO that should help with the teaching of the new stuff he will bring. There can be no doubt the D is ready for something new and didnt believe in Pornstache's approach. However, I think a guy who would come in and overcompensate with rah rah Gregg stuff might be tuned out. Pettine brings results, but based on how he projects himself in the few interviews and on the field footage i have seen so far, it feels like he coaches in a way that highlights confidence in who he has, not bravado about what his schemes can do or have done. We'll see. I might be in left field. However, my feeling is he is going to have this D believing in themselves and each other. A middle of the pack (top 15?) improvement may be within reach!

You attributed the Bengals record to an individual player. That's silly.

Dalton's ok. Middle of the pack QB so far. This is Dalton's second year. AC is correct. I'm always puzzled by folks that credit one player for team accomplishments, however.

So Green Ellis is a winner and Spiller is a loser? It's a team sport, no?