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Wow, just wow.

I'm talking run blocking. Three straight negative run plays. Nice retarded blast, drinking already or just childish and angry as a general personality traits?

On the overrated D shows. Total tire fire.

Oh so its EJs faul they can't block. Go it. EJ sucks but that doesn't give these turnstiles an excuse.

OL showing up

So Buffalo.

Said it all week, this is a loss. Time to get back to the bathroom project I was working on.

And there's the DB everyone loves and I just don't see being that good.

This defense is as inconsistent as the offense. Secondary is a mess, Bortles goes for 300 today. If I'm Bradley I pass all day and follow the model the Pats and Giants just throw, throw, throw.

I've only seen headlines in the online version of the local rag but they appear to want to place blame on Whaley for not having Pro Bowl quality backups for all these injured players. This is a common media approach. But blaming Whaley for trading Cassel is laughable, which I think was a headline I saw this week. If anyone think this team beats the Bengals last week with Cassel, all other things being equal, you're certifiably insane. But my bigger point is that one of the biggest fallacies in sports is the "injuries are no excuse" mantra. Really, you mean when the guy (Starter) who is better than the backup comes out, we are to expect equal play from that player? If the backup is equal, why isn't he playing at least rotating? Because he's not. When 5 of your backups play, should the expectations be the same? When should we accept injuries as the reason for a loss? This game is the perfect test of the injury argument. I think the Jags win this game because injuries matter.

McKelvin - wished him gone years ago. Inconsistent, no ball skills and overpaid for his production. Like all DBs, they get tons of credit for INTs and pass defense but this guy gets roasted more than beef at Charlie the Butcher's. Stupidity - year after year I watch this team take stupid penalties. It's not just this year but seemingly an annual run at incredulity. The Brooks taunt is the epitome of the problem. How the f*@k does he do that after all the focus on not taking penalties? Seriously, that's like your boss telling you that if you come in late one more time, you're fired. And then you proceed to walk in 30 minutes late the next day and intentionally walk by his office so he can see you coming in with your lunch in one hand and a coffee in the other. I understand occasional calls or necessary penalties (hold to save your QB's life) but blocks in the back, personal fouls, and the like I detest.

The beauty of the NFL and what most of these WGR analytical types miss is the predictive power of statistics. Which is to say, unlike the stock market, past performance does predict future results. If any of us with the ability had to time to sit down and put together a model, it would certainly not predict, I'd bet with high statistical significance, the Bills make it to 6-3. This isn't about last year's team or its record but purely on the past 6 games. No one in their right mind would lay down money on a 3-0 run for this injury riddled team with a defense that can't find itself and average QB play on its best day. In reality, right now, I'd say 1-2 and 0-3 isn't outside the realm of reality. The Jets in my mind is a guaranteed loss. The Dolphins under a new coach seem to putting it together after they destroyed a team we barely beat (part of the predictive model would be outcomes against teams in common). And the Jags aren't a guarantee. Actually, this one is the most problematic. Injuries hurt them, big time. I don't care how bad anyone things the Jags are, this is the NFL. Are the Bills so much better than the Jags even without Kyle Williams, Aaron Williams, Sammy Watkins, and Percy Harvin that we should just expect a win? That's insane. Optimism and fandom are often driven by emotion and irrational thinking. I'm a fan and season-ticket holder but I'm not a Kool Aid drinker, I see a team for what is IS, not what I want it TO BE.

I think a coach matters much more when you lack a franchise QB. I these cases, mistakes are magnified and costly. If you're a marginal coach with a marginal QB, you look like a marginal coach. With a franchise QB, a coach's ineptitude is masked by the QB eminent talent, which in most cases overcomes bad coaching. Is Mike McCarthy a great coach or did he get luckily with a cerebral, amazing talent under QB? Rex is marginal. What I always thought was a chink in his armor was his arrogance, which hisplayers bought into, often falsely, leading the, to rely more on the hype than the preparation and execution. I'm driven insane by stupidity and this team is the poster child of belie average intelligence coupled with misplaced arrogance. So absence the QB and chock full of arrogance, a 3-3 record is about right. This forum is the optimists club but Im a member of the realist club and as a season ticket holder, it's sad that another non-playoff season is upon us. Brady, Dalton, Manning, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Luck.... How can anyone expect this team with TT or EJ to make the playoffs??? This is a QB league. Bills still don't have one. End of story. Slam it all you want. It's reality. When a second tier but very good QB hangs 34 on what some call a top defense, it should tell you all you need to know. And I'll end with this:Gilmore is waaaay overrated by many. He's wildly inconsistent. He's remember for making a few plays but he get nickeled And dimed to death and gives up an occasional big play. He's not nor ever will be a shutdown corner. He's Leodis Version 2.0. Watch Revis and if you think he's in the same breath, you need to follow a sports you can understand.

More worried about this defenses inability to get pressure than anything right now

Thanks Brooks, Thanks Hughes.

Hughes is the leader of stupidity.

Been,y suggestion forever.... Just morons, period.

Bench Brooks. Send a damn message.

I want them to win the game as much as any, it's a huge chance at another "prove it" and get over the hump game a la the Giants. But a 5-0 team with a much better QB against a 3-2 team with two mediocre at best QBs, a suspect OL and naggg injuries to skilled position players doesn't bode well. Betting my last points in my suicide pool on the Bengals.

Bengals 17 Bills 6

The issue isn't that he wants the ball, per se. He should, so good on him. He's working with sub-par QBs, that's clearly an issue. The angle and approach is all wrong because he a) wasn't man enough to keep it between him and the coaches like a pro, he went with his agent to "pull some strings" which speaks to a lack of maturity and entitlement and b) it's clearly angling for money, period. Nowhere in that rant did he talk about how those receptions, in his mind, equate to winning or the success of the football team. The agent approach is like having your mommy call your boss on your behalf. Pathetic actually. If I were the GM or coach, I'd hang up on the agent. How is it his place to attempt to dictate how the team uses its players?

Nothing. It's NFL owner greed. The city wouldn't close its eyes and bend over when he ask to replace his 20 year old stadium so he pouted like a baby and decided to leave. I've said it many times, put a team in Toronto, realign the divisions and put them with the Bills, maybe the Browns and Steelers too. Make regional divisions as much as possible. The geographic names of the divisions are the best NFL joke ever. My guess is they rename them after the teams move around to the Kraft Divison, Jones Division, Synder Division....

That's the American mentality but it's so woefully shortsighted its nauseating. Everything that expands requires some trade-off that ultimately undermine the product. It comes down to the simple question: how much is enough profit? It's not they they're shareholders banging them for higher returns, it's just owner greed. Off that you don't see the English Premier League trying to expand or even play games here? Only the American Model of Greed thinks this way. It also underscores who owns these NFL teams. Investors basically. All they care about is making more money, period. If they can win, great, but if they can make more money first, awesome. I think the product is getting worse actually and a lot of it has to do with the greed. I said at the game Sunday that the commercial breaks were too long. Gotta sell ads though. I think its 12 minutes of actual play in an NFL game. Touchdown, commercial. Extra point, commercial. Kickoff, commercial. It's brutal. Commercials in the stadium are brutal, you can't even talk to people around you during game breaks because they're jamming commercials at you at 150 dbs. Home is just as bad. Sitting on the couch watching the same damn commercials every break. Teams always looking to pack up and leave for the highest and best package of public dollars for a stadium. You'd never see that in the EPL. Imagine Manchester United leaving for London, hell no. Here investors like Stan Kroenke play the govt shakedown game and its allowed, mainly because our govt sucks, from the anti-trust exemption to taking public dollars for stadiums and then leaving cities behind. By the expand or die mode, Buffalo's been dying for 65 years. Yet somehow a wealthy businessman found the team profitable enough, key word enough, to buy the team on a bottom market for a record price and commit to keeping it here. Funny how that works. The NFL has a problem in the future for three reasons: the demographic transition because the younger generation doesn't follow sports as much. Twitter, Facebook and other social media is entertainment now. The concussion issue. Less kids are playing football because parents don't want their kids hurt. Soccer is the replacement and it puts soccer in people's sights. And lastly, soccer. The interest in this country is growing daily. More and more kids are playing. The EPL is gaining popularity and because the only reason we have population growth in this country is through immigration, we're seeing more and more interest in the sport nationally. MLS is finally gaining some interest outside its market. Oh and one more, a lot of people I know who used to be huge fans and have fallen off over the years aren't interested in a league full of Ray Rice's. And when you're pregame networks shows have guys like Ray Lewis on them, hard to watch. I personally stopped watching pregame shows I can't even remember how long ago because of the ignorance and shouting. I think the NFL is actually asking desperate with these overseas moves. They realize these are huge issues and that they need to maximize profit now before the inevitable downturn happens, which it will, unfettered growth isn't sustainable. An eventual backslide is guaranteed.

Has all the makings of the classic Bills movie script we've all seen where you expect them to win, but in the end, the twist is always they lose. I'm taking the Titans in my points pool this week. I don't think the OL is very good. I think teams have realized you pass quickly against this team to minimize the rush, which plays perfectly for a game plan with a rookie QB... one look and pass. 1. Against a team that finished almost dead last in the prior season. 2. A rookie QB 3. Bills actually have talent 4. Bills have injuries 5. They lost to a team the Bills already beat 6. They don't have a household name a WR or RB but someone will have a career day 7. Their defense has given up sucessively more points each week... 14... 28... 35 8. They lost to the Browns, even we laugh at the Browns All classic signs that should point to a Bills win but won't.

At leas with umps, they develop a history and, for instance a known strike zone, that players are aware of. Some guys the zone is big, some smaller but generally its the same. Yes it's probably outside the rule books but it's widely known and accepted, and part of the supposed charm of baseball. And that's the issue... its known and accepted. Football is more about consistent application and interpretation of the rules, and it's not even close. We have never come to expect and accept that a two handed jersey grab on a rushing DL is not a hold for a certain ref. And a chop block is below, not above, the waist.