Mango

I feel bad for the fans. But also KC isn't a place that doesn't have winter. It doesn't get the snow of Buffalo or the cold of Minnesota or Green Bay, but they have winter. The average winter coat and gloves these days are rated for temps that would have been considered pretty high end gear in the 80's and 90's. With weather apps and access to better gear it is bonkers to me that that many people got frostbite.

Under both contracts the Bills save cap space by cutting Von at camp. But now he costs the team far less cash out of pocket even if he plays lights out. If Von still looks stiff like last year he can still be cut to save the cap space/roll over. But keeping him on the roster becomes easier to swallow which is beneficial to all parties. I think part of this is Von betting on himself. But part of it is also to incentivize the team to keep him on the roster. 12 sacks at $27M is bad. 12 sacks at $15M is better. Even if the Bills move on next year (which I think is likely), hitting the market after over performing vs. underperforming makes a world of difference.

And that is really bad value at his previous $25M cap number. You don’t pay premier pass rusher money for 10 sacks. But it’s good value for $8M.

Greg gets some things right. But he gets a lot wrong especially regarding the cap. Cover 1 started as great. They’re less great now. Just my opinion on them. I think the reason a player is willing to take an incentive laden deal in this situation is because if they don’t his career likely ends. Unless Von has 15+ sacks this year his time here is done at season end. And maybe his career overall is done. You can’t keep a guy who vastly underperforms his cost. And nobody wants to sign a guy who underperforms. But take a haircut with the possibility to win it back based on performance? If Von gets 8.5 sacks this year at $8M people are having the conversation “He just needed a year to get right” and even if he doesn’t stick around here he is a guy who performed at a level commensurate with his pay. Good credit and bad credit matter.

I think the truth is likely somewhere in the middle. Von was way too costly against the cap to cut. But I do think it was possibly said “hey man, if you underperform on $25M I gotta move on from you next offseason. It is what it is. We think this is your value now. If you reach it you can be a Bill for a while. Otherwise you’re a goner next year. If you renegotiate I’m happy to get you back to $25M in incentives commensurate with that pay/performance” Also there was some rumor that Von’s original deal was voidable if charged with domestic assault. Google doesn’t tell me that case has gone away yet. This new deal might get Von some more money if something comes of it. But that’s total conjecture.

Am I missing something? You think Von will get a bonus for 4 tackles? Bonuses are generally based on a total performance not necessarily related to the prior year. I would be shocked if Von triggered additional pay on his 4th tackle. That silly.

It seems that the term “restructure” is getting thrown out a lot for things that don’t typically fall under the use. Very curious of the implications for cutting Von. Not just next year, but even as early as this year post June 1.

Yeah, that is what I thought. I am being super pedantic, but I wish it was reported as "added a void year" rather than "restructure". I get it. It is a restructure....but also it kind of isn't.

I saw that. I wasn't sure if that -$16M number was with or without Tre. He is in red but I still have the option to move on from him in the roster editor. I cam here to ask and it has been answered. Thanks!

It does not "cost" us anything. Moving on from Von after this season nets us $8.45M in cap space. Having Von on the roster in 2025 COSTS us $23.8M in cap space. Removing Von from the roster in 2025 SAVES us $8.45M in cap space. When it comes to moving on from players the net is much more important than the dead cap number.

Yeah. What a bummer. I love Tre. I’ll certainly be pouring one out for him later. Great dude, great teammate, great CB.

I’m a bit shocked at this one. I thought releasing Bates meant Morse was a lock. I am no guru if feels like Bates to center and keeping McGovern at guard may have been the better option over signing Edward’s.

So is it as much a restructure as it is adding a void year? I guess I am being pedantic. Still seems strange though.

This is what I thought would happen. And on top of that I don't get how a restructure changes the cap number for a player in the final year of his contract.

Can somebody explain to me how a restructure works in the last year of a players contract?

You could have just spelled Sean Payton right the first time and your pun would have worked the first time.

I think this is basically Mangas but a different title. My guess is Shula was given a senior title due to age and experience. I checked the teams coaching page on the wayback machine and Daboll did not have a Senior Offensive Assistant or Offensive Quality Control coach. Pretty sure these are generic titles to get guys they like in house, working, and developing. The defense has had a few similar roles that have sporadically come and gone as they bring guys in and out of the fold. Similar to Dorsey, Brady is a young dude who will need a good team around him to help shepherd him into the role.

I’m an idiot and misread it. Thanks for the correction.

Per spotrac it saved $930K

$930k in space saved This means Morse isn’t going anywhere which was speculated either this year or next. Also means his replacement isn’t on the roster. This has to be for draft currency. Otherwise I don’t love it on its own.

I could not get passed that. Why not say "bright green"?

I don't think it dilutes anything. Often times I think players need more time in college to develop and there is no minor league in football. If anything any reason to stay in college a little longer likely helps the NFL in the long run. This should mean that more players are pro ready on draft day.

That is kind of bonkers. Very bonkers. If I were the org I would likely switch to United just because they have much larger premier seating sections than Delta. United has planes with 60 Polaris seats (like full on lay down) That is enough for the 53 plus, HC, OC, DC, Beane, and Terry. Then business class has enough for everybody on the PS to have 2 seats (36 total seats). Plus enough coach seats for everybody else to get their own row. You don't need it every game. But anything in CA, WA, AZ, or over seas seems like a super worthy investment at the very least. I honestly have no idea how much more it would cost for them compared to their current cost, but I would imagine it is fairly affordable for a guy in oil and gas with two professional sports franchises. O/G aside, both franchises are estimated to be worth a combined $5B. https://www.united.com/en/us/fly/company/aircraft/boeing-777-300er.html

I agree with all of that. I credit Brandon Beane not Terry Pegula. It is rare that NFL executives are given a long enough leash to work through multiple QB era’s. There are certainly examples though. Pittsburgh and Baltimore being two. I am saying that if the Bills move on in the post Josh Allen era, the team is likely to spiral with Terry Pegula at the helm.

This thread and the article are click bait. The article was such trash that I actually pulled up the podcast and had it on one while I worked. Neither her nor the host of the show mention Josh Allen's name once. Britt Will doesn't have much of a social media following. At least not enough to be living in a high rise off of 5th ave. like she does. Between her monetized accounts on TikTok, Youtube, and IG she has less than 250k followers. That isn't enough. You can almost guarantee that she has a really large NDA that allows her to live the life she is and why she doesn't even speak JA17's name when being interviewed. Most easy break ups don't end that tight lipped with such nice apartments. Filling in the empty space between then and now will likely never be able to be verified.