Not at the table Karlos

it's amazing how many people come on here and just flatout make things up

when woods does it consistently I'll complain. Hogan does it on almost every play were he catches the ball near the marker(a majority of his catches). He is a very below average receiver that only gets catches because he's so bad the defense doesn't bother to cover him. I don't understand how people can defend him and think he will get better. He's been a yard short his entire career.

this too. His awareness is beyond terrible

Chris " nine yards" Hogan. woods rarely comes up short for the first when he's guaranteed to have it. Hogan has it then makes sure he doesn't get it. I don't have the exact number of times he goes 9 yards for the first but I'd guess it was over half of his receptions. This. they must be telling Hogan the same thing as the previous coaching staff because he didn't like getting first downs last year either.

lol thanks. I thought someone already got to it before I did.

Happy thanksgiving!

I can see it. He said he was going to do that when he was hired. They tried to blend the schemes it didn't work so they are going with what they know. This past week looked like the Rex defenses I know and love.

I read somewhere that this ref got trampled earlier in the year and got injured and he got scared when the action came right for him. I mean the guy is pretty deep into the bills sideline.

I think is a combination of how he is used and his frustration of it. There are plays where he destroyed the blockers in front of him and others where he just kind of stands there while a TE blocks him. I have no clue what the play call is or his responsibilities on a given play so I don't know for sure if he is taking plays off or just the scheme but he definitely looks like a different player this year. He jumps to bat passes down and the qb runs around him. He has been taking poor angles. Isn't shedding blocks like he used to. Missing screen reads he normally picks up. Mario looked terrible when they moved him inside against miami. He was single blocked and pushed over like Troup used to when he would try to anchor. The second we moved him inside the dolphins marched down the field. Then Mario jumps instead of putting his hands up and(I may be wrong about the td) Miami scores.

they did show a replay of this play from the back angle. It showed graham grabbing gronks jersey and the jersey stretching. Clearly a defensive holding call.

when was he back up to AW(Leo started at the other corner), Darby(leo was injured) and gilmore(Leo started at the other corner)? And when did he almost get cut?

this. I had to turn off the other games the last two Sundays because I can't take the referees. It's becoming less and less about the two football teams on the field and more of a WWE triple threat match between the teams and the referees. I am pretty much convinced the NFL is fixed to some degree. Every game is won or lost depending on how the refs treated you that game. almost every game goes down to the wire. Who ever has the ball last always has a chance to win or tie.

Malcom butler. Mario butler plays for us was that the one that Sammy had to slow down for allowing butler to catch up?

anything that had to do with the refs I give this team a pass. The Patriots players and coaches were on the sidelines a few times no call.

I'm not sure, but I have seen a couple posts and tweets saying the pats**** were running no huddle and a pat**** ran on the field which means they are substituting so the bills changed up but then the pat ran off the field making it illegal. I don't know the rule or have a strong recollection of the play just going on what I read.

yup. I tried to find some people in the directory and they werent found. Goodell, pereira.

it was clearly holding. The replay from the back angle showed it clear as day. But this was possibly the worst refereed game I have ever seen.

this. They did show the replay. Graham was holding the ship outta gronk

I have some thinking to do after this debacle. I love the bills and live to watch them play but I despise the NFL. I'm convinced the game is fixed in some way with the cap the referees call. I can't give up on the bills but I don't want to support the NFL in anyway.

but he threw a beautiful deep ball to hogan the play or two after and clearly showed he had more than enough arm strength to get it there.

Johnny !@#$ing football

if they are patriots fans they aren't really your friends.

Wow. That is impressive.

just hang them up at the Panthers stadium.

He doesn't look high at all. He looks like he's messing with someone.