OldTimer1960

I'll be watching and looking for continued signs of improvement. I hope to see the young players take a few more steps. I hope that they continue to play hard and be competitive in every game.

You are right, I just couldn't resist responding.

Didn't you just suggest that Locker might be great? Go check Locker's passing stats in college and pros and tell me he was/is more accurate than Manuel. QBs generally do raise their completion % after their rookie year. Also, remember that Manuel is also throwing (mostly) to rookie WRs who may not always be in the right spot. Give them some time to develop chemistry. We would all have liked EJ to have walked in and been a polished finished product, but that was an unrealistic wish. Sure, he needs to improve - what young QBs don't? In my view, he has played better than I expected and I am encouraged that he may be a long term good NFL starter.

I agree on the point that the Bills did the best that they could of a bad situation after both Kolb and Manuel were injured. Some argue that they should have had a "vet", but I haven't seen anyone identify a viable option that was available at the time. Regarding the point that good QBs don't make decisions that get them injured, I strongly disagree. I think fans in Green Bay would argue that Aaron Rodgers is pretty good, yet he is hurt.. Didn't RG3 get hurt running last year? Drew Bree's had a torn rotator cuff which hastened his exit from SD.

That is how I saw it, too

Nobody is happy that the team has been bad for a long time. But I don't see their failings as a lack of effort or a secret plan to suck in order to torture and rip off the fan base. The organization has tried to get credible football people to run the front office. I remember thinking that the hiring of Tom Donahoe was going to work very well. I still think that Buddy Nix significantly upgraded the talent level on the team over the past 3 years. Basically, the team went through an awful period prior to Nix' arrival and the cupboard was completely bare. Importantly, they have been unable to find a good QB since Jim Kelly left - that by itself was the single biggest problem. I hope that they have finally found a good long term answer at QB and I think that there is young talent to develop. I believe that they are finally headed in the right direction. My main point through all of this rambling is that placing all blame on Mr Wilson is way off base (IMHO).

+1 I don't understand why many are so harsh on Manuel. If that was "awful" then there are no words for some QB performances. Again, I don't know if Manuel will be the long- term answer, but I've been generally pleased with his play so far (Pittsburgh game was tough to watch, though)

Agreed, further would people really rather have him throwing picks left and right like Geno Smith has been doing? Manuel played well enough for them to have some that game. Turnovers and the inability of the defense to stop a Falcon offense without Julio Jones are what lost that game.

I don't think it really matters. Even if this team had 22 Pro-Bowlers starting, they would find a way to lose.

I am pretty sure that Marrone did not tell Johnson and Chandler to fumble. I still like Marrone, but fear that he will be chewed up by the horrible losing culture the same as previous coaches have.

Can there be any question? Bills must cut SJ and his big contract and spend that money to re-sign Byrd - not that Byrd was spectacular today, but he is FAR FAR more clutch than SJ. 1st or 2nd round pick should be spent on a TE who is better than the scrap-heap reclamation project that Chandler is.

45 years of hoping and trying to believe through bad decisions and bad luck. I don't have much left. The irony is being set up. A few more bad years in Buffalo and then they'll move to Toronto, LA or London and then they'll suddenly be SB contenders.

45 years of hoping and trying to believe through bad decisions and bad luck. I don't have much left. The irony is being set up. A few more bad years in Buffalo and then they'll move to Toronto, LA or London and then they'll suddenly be SB contenders.

Agreed, this team finds creative ways to lose. I can easily see them losing the rest of their games - unless of course it might be advantageous to lose one of them for a shot at a really great player - then, and only then, will they put together a good game and stumble to a victory when it would benefit them to lose.

BTW, I have watched/listened to EVERY game for the last 45 years and I cannot believe how bad (other than the 4 SB years) this team has been. There has been almost NO hope for most of those 45 years. I DO see some signs of progress - Manuel at least has a chance to be a good NFL QB, Woods looks decent, Alonzo looks like a keeper... BUT, what happens when the collective stink of this franchise saps the effort from those guys? Horrible, horrible loss and one that was particularly predictable late in the 3rd QTR. If you've watched for the last 30-40 years, you KNEW that they would find a way to lose this game against a team that just wanted to get on the bus and go home. Terrible....

This team will NEVER be good. They can't erase 20 years of being horrible from their psyche. Against a team that won 2 friggin' games this year, they crumbled twice at the end of the game. Basically saying, "gosh, we can't possibly win this game - here take these gift fumbles and humiliate us as we deserve to be".

Game is about over. Atl needs 15 yards or less for a game winning FG.

They are TRYING to lose. God, there is not anything this franchise can do to win, is there?

Is there a higher paid player who is LESS clutch than SJ? Cut him and re-sign Byrd to a long-term contract.

The receiver ran right over Robey and the call was on Robey????

F'ing horrible call.

Oh, what a BIG break.

For G*d's sake. He NEVER even touched him, but the game is slipping away.

Looking for ways to lose against a horrible opponent.

Ugh, how to lose? What was Byrd doing on that play?