Rob's House

When the defense gave up a long TD drive at the end of the 2nd Qtr, went in for half time, came out, and promptly allowed another long TD run to relenquish a lead on a 21-3 run, I didn't have a lot of positive feelings. When the D got the ball back at the end - positive feelings.

Still alive!

D looked sketchy for a minute, but they did their part today.

What the !@#$ was that?

Just when I start to think this defense doesn't suck ass...

I was thinking of his son who's a 36 yearl old pop star that sings about how big his dick is.

I remember some posters furiously declaring the Bills should cough up $10+/yr for him.

I'm not remotely offended by any of this. There are a lot of people, at least one of whom has posted in this thread, that are envious and resentful of those who have more than they do. Sounds like she doesn't want to play the fake guilt game d-bag libs w/ money like to play. Also, why does this girl get slammed & Alan Thicke gets a pass?

Not before we take a RB. Fred's getting up there.

And he in no way comes off as a girl on her period.

So basically you're saying that there is really no point where the pink could reasonably be said to be overdone? Or are you really just trying to convey that you're above it all and therefore better than all the petty he-men? It's a Connerific argument you're advancing, and quite frankly I expect better from you.

Now I know you've been smoking the hippie lettuce.

Funny how different your assessment of Jim Kelly is based on the accuracy of a kick he had nothing to do with. Viniaterri & Vandejagt's performances have more impact on your perception of Manning and Brady than Manning & Brady's performances do.

I always think judging QBs by SBs is just a simple way for simple minds that don't like to think to rationalize an opinion.

I'm okay with it if the commissioner is.

The 2011 Packers lost in the first round of the playoffs. The 2010 Packers D held opponents to 16, 21, 14, & 25 points through the playoffs. And although the running stats weren't gaudy, the run game was effective throughout the playoffs. I'm not interested in the number of yds given up by a defense, especially during the regular season - points allowed during the playoffs is a much better indicator, particularly for this discussion.

There's something to be said for guys who rise to the occasion, and not to discount that, but I think often times one dimensional teams can rack up wins in the regular season, but come playoff time when the weather is cold & you're facing more complete teams, it's not necessarily that the QB folds so much as it's virtually impossible for a QB to carry a team that can't run & play defense in those conditions.

You Still Need Running and Defense to Win the Super Bowl. Looking over the last 25+ years only one team (Rams) has won the SB without at least having both a decent defense AND running game. We put so much stock in SB wins when rating QBs, but is that a sorry indicator? Marino & Manning, two of the all-time greats take flak for lack of rings, but is it possible that they were just on teams that were poorly designed for post season success? A few illustrative points: If Elway retires at 35 do we view him the same way? Was he better at 36 or did he finally have the right pieces around him? Brady hasn't won a SB in 10 years. Was he better in his early 20s or has it just been that long since he had a good D and power running game?

I used to get mad at idiotic statements, but now if I catch myself with gritted teeth I remember Levi's old avatar with the guy at the computer worked up because "someone on the internet is wrong," then it's hard to maintain a significant level of rage. It's almost like trying to get angry over something gatorman said.

Sounds like a good time to make a statement and show mother !@#$ers what's up.

Do you need a wing man?

I didn't get the memo, but does that mean he's available?

He looks the part, but if we're going TE early I'd rather have Colt Lyerla. He'd be a nice target and would also bring some much needed physicality to the offense.

Maybe he realized what he was up against & decided not to show. This is like middle school all over again.