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Agree. And you know it's the offseason when people are talking about JA17's "touch" as a passer. That's still not a strength of his game. It's a big separator between he and Mahomes. Allen still makes a lot of bad throws on relatively routine plays and his shaky touch is one of the reasons that they haven't been able to get better in the screen game and passing to RB's in general. It was more pronounced after his elbow injury last year but touch has never been a strength. We tend to forget about it because he usually makes up for it the next play and because he can reach areas of the field that most others can't so his receivers have more ways to get "open". But he does not have the ball on a string out there like Brady or Mahomes.

Yeah, rare case where we agree. Missing a season after being injured running isn't nothing @Freddie's Dead He also sustained a turf toe injury running against Tampa in 2021 but played thru it. There should be no question that he is running the ball too much right now............the volume is absurd.

And likewise.........I think New England and TN probably think they can low ball him because there isn't a lot of willing money out there. I mean if Buffalo and KC were only able to offer a fraction of what they were.........then they probably think they shouldn't pay full price either. If he'd been offered $19M per year for multi-year with 50% gtd I think he'd be signed by now. Personally, I think Hopkins best chance to win is with Buff/KC of course but that his best chance at big numbers is probably elsewhere with his boy DeShaun or a middling pocket passer like Mac or Tannehill who is likely more willing to throw the ball up for grabs to Hopkins. Mahomes is going to throw the ball to the open man and JA has never been one for throwing into tight coverage so both of those destinations figure to at least have some growing pains while they get used to throwing into traffic to feed Hopkins.

Yeah, c'mon @Rigotz.........there are always a few fans with no concept of value............but the bulk of the educated discussion about trading for Hopkins was trading a pick in exchange for Arizona eating most of his base salary this season. Like a third rounder in exchange for Arizona eating $14M of his $19M in base salary for 2023. Some teams who aren't tight fisted like Arizona would do that. It's basically what the Brandin Cooks trade from Houston to Dallas was.......draft capital for cap space so they could acquire a player who wasn't in the plans of the team holding his contract. It's the NFL version of a "sign and trade". One thing we've generally understood all along was that Hopkins cap hit for 2023 was going to have to fall in the $5M or less range for Buffalo to swing it.

I was in my vehicle when Murph screamed "Touchdownnnn!" on the pass that Allen one hopped 10 feet in front of McKenzie late in that heat exhaustion game in Miami last year. It was time for a change either way. I know pro sports teams have been slow to replace radio people in recent times because the audience is old and it's easier to just stick with old stand-by's and not upset the few people still listening. Sorta' like the Yankees with their two Octegenarian announcers........talk about a hard listen.

Yeah I surely hope McGovern turns out to be good too. You don't pay an interior OL who has never even been a full time starter the kind of money they did unless you think he's going to be A LOT better than he's ever been before. But his pff grade last year was brutal. To register a 52 score you have put a lot of bad on tape. Clearly the splits were vastly different because his pass blocking was good and his run blocking was not. And as I've said.......there is no such thing as a 3rd down guard........you can't be terrible at one aspect and be a good guard. Saffold was even worse (42) but he was simply terrible snap-in-snap-out all season.

4. Who are the Bills "deep group of good WR"? It's Diggs.......a huge gap..........and THEN a MVS-like WR3 in Gabe Davis(who is a pending UFA)......the another drop-off to a couple 5th rounders and a couple journeymen with 190 yards per season averages. You are subtracting Diggs from the equation but not adding ANY of the 4 or 5 "good" receivers. Maybe Kincaid turns into a WR, but even then, without Diggs, on paper it's Kincaid and the pips without significant investment into the position in the 2024 offseason. Again........you are drawing a broad conclusion based on one single result that you think was the Chiefs filling WR roles with a bunch of rando's(when they in fact, did not)........and then the Chiefs being the first team to win a SB without two very high quality WR's since the 2018 Patriots. My advice is to eliminate any Patriot result when you are looking at SB success. There are not any HC's in the NFL who can hold a candle to Belichick on an even playing field.

Part of the reason your Cardinals are having such a down year is the introduction of the balanced schedule. Central divisions in both league's are trash and have been so for years........but since the central teams were playing so many games in division against other middling franchises with the unbalanced schedule, it made winning teams out of teams that really couldn't dream of hanging in contention in the AL East. Even then.........the Cardinals haven't had a better record than the Yankees in any of the last 6 years. Right now, the Cardinals are a sh!t show. Their string of winning seasons(half that of the Yankees) is likely to come to an end THE FIRST TIME that the league goes with a balanced schedule. That says it all about the fallacy that the Cardinals are still a top organization. They are a mess and when they aren't going out and spending big on guys like Arenado and Contreras and Goldschmidt they are trading away their better prospects and keeping their Laars Nootbaar types instead.

I'm perplexed how you draw the conclusion that the Chiefs don't think they need star receivers when they have an All Pro in Kelce.......3 first or second round picks at WR from the past 3 drafts that they've acquired in the past 15 months........and a $10M aav WR3? I mean.........do the Bills need a "diva" receiver who assaults women and children or women pregnant with his children....like Tyreek Hill? No, that's a hard pass in the WNY market and I think that when the Chiefs finally felt they could no longer keep him satisfied playing at a deviants discount.......they made that decision too. You are over-thinking this, IMO.

Like when Smut Busters bought all the dick pills so truckers couldn't get em'?

The Cardinals are just getting a bad break with some guys not having good years? Nobody has more hitters having seasons below reasonable expectation than the Yankees. They are playing quad A players like Jake Bauers and Billy McKinney and among the vets, with Judge on the shelf, the only proven major leaguers who are hitting up to their career norms are #8 and #9 lever hitters like Masterson Bader and IBS. What the Yankees can do that the Cardinals cannot is pitch. Especially their MLB best bullpen. Which is in good part because their pitching development program lead by Matt Blake is now among the very best in MLB. That's why they are 8 games over .500 and the Cardinals.......who have plenty of hitters having very good seasons.......are 13 games under.

No I think you you are ignoring that the Bengals OL has been worse than the Bills the past 2 years and they lost a close game in the SB and nearly beat the Chiefs again in the AFCCG in that span. Beating the league's premier team in the Chiefs in 4 of their last 5 meetings. Hell they beat the Bills in Buffalo with an OL full of backups to their already not-good OL. Much to the chagrin of many the Bengals are very current proof that you don't necessarily even need a "good" OL to get to a SB. The quality of your WR corps has actually proven to be more of an indicator of top end success in the past 6 years..........hence the concern about the position. That being said........offensive lines are part of the equation for sure and everyone would prefer to have a good one and Philly and KC do have very good ones. In the case of Philly it really elevates their QB from good to excellent. But the rest of the perceived "contenders" like Buffalo, Cinci, San Francisco, Miami and NY Jets are all projected to rank between 17-24 by PFF this year.

Killed their plates when they went to frozen home fries. That was the only fresh ingredient and therefore the only ingredient they could f*ck up. And they did.

This will be the 4th year in a row where the Bills will take a roster that's AT the top or very near the top of the league.........so your "we have only had Josh and Diggs" take is just something you've drummed up as an excuse. The Bills are no more than 1 player lesser than teams like KC/Philly/Cinci going into this season. That player is WR2. The gap isn't much.....if ANY different.....than the Bills and the Cowboys/Niners/Redskins rosters in that era of their last 3 SB appearances.

You've pretty much summed it up. The biggest problem Tyrod had was that he worried too much about getting benched and losing an NFL job. He was the anti-Fitz. People hated when he opened up about his opinions that black QB's got less opportunities to make mistakes, quicker hooks and less chances to stay in the league for a long time..........but he wasn't wrong about that. He just made a conscious decision to be ultra-conservative to assure that he wasn't losing games for his team and so he could keep getting to play in the NFL. After a while it became such a habit I don't know if he could even change. It would have been a lot more fun to see what he could do if he played a wide open style like Fitz. We saw in 2015 he was a big play waiting to happen. And, in fact, the Bills offense lead the NFL in big plays (20+ yards) under Tyrod in both 2015 and 2016.

Oh no doubt that his likability has GREATLY been driven by McShay being a humorless turd. He tried for years to make fun of Mel and Kiper knew how to roll with it........but McShay still gets rankled at the slightest criticism. He's that thin skinned guy who is impossible not to prod because you know he's going to have an over-sized reaction to it. We have a few of those on here. "Low hanging fruit" as the mods would call them. Most of them I have to keep on ignore because they are constantly setting up irresistible punchline's. I layoff them, so to speak.

Not really even debatable that Kiper is very likeable to his audience. They don't watch him for.....or even care about........his success rate. McShay though is a total heel and some of his takes have been notably deplorable. That year he was championing Andre Woodson as a first overall pick all fall (2007 season).........and then he goes in round 6 and is quickly out of the league. Yeesh. Unforgettably bad. He needed a change of scenery a decade ago. Since then it's gotten increasingly painful to watch. He's become the object of jokes for everyone who squeezes onto the screen. ABC sports = ESPN

Playoffs should be the very floor this year......not the goal. It's the NHL........expansion teams can be instant cup contenders and talented, dominant young teams one year can be unrecognizably mediocre the next season.

You do realize that no team is stacked like teams were in the early 80's and 90's? Right? Do I need to explain why? The league was very top heavy then. The Bills literally rank about the same roster-wise.......relative to the rest of the NFL.......as they did then. Top 3 NFL roster every year since 2020. You need to let the 1990's go. Seriously. The high expectations for today's Bills are realistic. If you think Bills fans or WNY media are hard on the team you are very ignorant about how the Bills are treated relative to teams in other markets. Buffalo is a sheltered market to play in. The Bills and other NFL teams are a multi-billion dollar assets because their fans are passionate about the team........in the world some of you want pro sports to exist that money and generational wealth for the players you want to adore would not be there. The type of people who have been fans since 1998 but have just 28 posts on the teams premier message board since 1998 aren't the kind of passionate that drives revenue. You are casuals. So learn to take criticism with a grain.

So merikin's aren't just turning their back on Disney? We have some people on TSW who are so nestled into their little corners that they are clueless about what has broad appeal and what does not. Like the people that think nobody follows the NBA.......you know......because they don't. Because he's terrible. He was their college version of Steve Young. So you've skipped all the Bills games on ESPN?

Doesn't surprise me at all. He's been reduced to being the butt of jokes on ESPN. Kiper is popular and likable and Todd always ends up looking dumb AND petulant about it. Gotten to the point that even when he's on set with college football jagoffs that barely follow the NFL like David Pollock......when he is supposed to be the expert in the discussion.......they make him look like he's a joke. I don't know if he can scout at all but he needed a change of scenery for sure.

Great ideas have humble beginnings

"Technically competent but unable to excel" That's the sports definition of a journeyman. Like Andre Holmes. Remember him? One 600 yard season but ended up playing 7 and averaging only 250 per year. A player can play for a lot of teams and not be a journeyman........Emmanuel Sanders.

1. Yes if your squad goal is just to be "in the hunt" for a wildcard spot still at Thanksgiving then Parker is an adequate WR2. If you expect to be playing in February he'd better CLEARLY be your WR3. The position has become that much of an indicator of success. 2. McGovern had a dreadful 52 overall rating with PFF. And then he and Edwards(58) images were used in a re-tweet about PFF offensive line unit rankings like they were big upgrades. Whatever people want to say about PFF.........if you are south of 60 on their scale you are clearly putting a lot of bad on tape.

Loved the Kincaid pick and think at some point in his career he could be a star for the Bills. Just a lot of huevos in one basket in a year where they are otherwise surely a SB contender. The safety net is a 5th rounder last year with obvious tweener traits that limited him as a prospect and two guys who have averaged 190 yards receiving per season each in the better part of a combined decade as NFL players.