starrymessenger

That you would mention Cam in the same breath as Allen without comparing them as passers tells me all I need to know. Adios.

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. I thought Allen did a masterful job of reading/reacting pre and post snap in both playoff games this year. His short area accuracy is good, and has been for awhile and ahead of his long ball accuracy improvement. Even Kurt Warner has come round. And I thought overall he converted 3rd downs well working the last couple of years and was also very good in the red zone. And what about his ability as a running QB. How many linemen have those other guys stiff armed, how many LBs have they hurdled and how many DBs have they trucked. How mobile is Burrows of the many sacks? Some would say he’s not in the mould of the modern QB. Those skills are important. Josh bears some resemblance to Elway, but a bigger, better one.

Yeah but the cases would not be of equal strength imo. Allen can now be considered an accurate passer. Look at how much better his long ball is. Agree its fair to say that his accuracy remains a work in progress and is not yet the final product but not without also saying that it continues to get better. It will prolly never be A Rodgers accurate but the same could be said about the other young QBs. And while it’s true that WRs are sometimes required to make difficult adjustments/catches this is often because Allen is making a throw that the others would not even attempt, and for good reason. Mahomes is very accurate and throws a very receiver friendly ball. Herbert can be pinpoint accurate with excellent arm strength, though perhaps not consistently so. Burrows is an accurate passer. Nuff said. So I think these guys are all very good to excellent passers of the football. And they can all read a defence. Passing may be job one but then what about the other stuff? In looking at the package of critical skills that can enable a player at the all important position to impact and indeed single handedly take over a game well…they can’t do what Josh Allen do (tho PM is close).

Mahomes Herbert Burrows Jackson…they can’t do what Josh Allen do.

Getting him more legit weapons is just as important and to a significant extent serves the same purpose.

He has wheels, a strong arm and is accurate. He has no idea how to read a defence and was never asked to do it. Gifted but a very risky pick in the first round.

I completely agree. I was just putting emphasis on the fact that Josh is a load and laughing at Honey Badger who in both games last year got trucked by him. There is no other QB in the game who can do what all Allen can do. Mahomes comes close. Burrow does not, good tho he is. Herbert is just Josh light for now until he proves otherwise. Its a very steep hill for him to climb.

Well some argue that the right counterpoint to Putin would be men like Lincoln or Grant, y’know, nothing less than the greatest and the best. I personally don’t see men of that stature amongst today’s political class. Maybe they’re out there somewhere but I don’t see them.

While American policy is something all world leaders always need to be aware of I wouldn’t myself overemphasize it’s importance in this particular case insofar as timing is concerned. I think Putin’s worldview is under pressure in Eastern Europe (his backyard) and he fears that with the passage of time Russia as he knows it and wants it to be will lose its grip. I wouldn’t characterize Trump as Putin’s puppet either but I do suspect that Trump admires and would like to emulate him. Putin is a street thug from from a very, very tough neighborhood. But he’s also much more than that. He’s a statesman who understands that he is the successor of Peter, of Catherine and of Alexander the First. That’s a huge responsibility and at 70 years old he is concerned for his and his country’s legacy. So Putin is a serious person and a real handful. Comparing Trump with Putin is like comparing Howdy Doodie with Heavy Duty.

Maybe because with a more Russia friendly administration in Washington he was better served by seeing how things might play out to his advantage over time ie perhaps Trump would pull the US out of NATO (rather than him precipitating a crisis the consequences of which might be uncertain). Also his motivations might not be so much influenced by American policy but other factors closer to home. There has fairly recently been an increase in opposition to his regime in Russia and there has been an upsurge in pro-western popular sentiment in neighbouring Belarus. This is actually Putin’s biggest problem both from a strategic and ideological perspective. If Ukraine and Belarus over time join Western Europe he has a thousand mile border to defend stretching from the Black to the Baltic Seas. Russia can’t do that. It might bankrupt them. Secondly, if Ukraine and Belarus join the EU his regime loses the ideological battle in Russia itself. For him losing these two countries would be like Republicans permanently losing Texas and Georgia aka game over. There is no doubt though that Putin wants to bring/keep/absorb Ukraine. He needs to. The pressure is actually on him.

He of the 4.62 40.

Funny they had been double and triple teaming Donald all game but not on the most important down.

He took over a disaster and turned them around. Do you really think Mike Brown is responsible for that. And he’s been to the SB before. Win lose or draw they are obviously a well coached team.

Given what all else he seems to bring to the table in the way of footwork, hands and toughness, if he runs in the 4.2s that will hugely impact his draft stock imo. Even in the 4.3s. Just judging from his highlight reel I don’t see that kind of speed.

All depends on how you chose to measure and define athleticism I suppose. What I think can be said is that Josh is the most physically dominant player to ever play the position taking into account all of his athletic attributes and psychological makeup. He’s the archetype of the badass stud.

Josh looks faster than he is because defenders are afraid to tackle him. Just ask Honey Badger.

Its just a highlight reel but its pretty obvious this guy has excellent mobility and lots of arm talent. Looks fast too. Wonder what his 40 is.

Its possible that Daboll and McD didn’t always see eye to eye. Whether they did or not is probably mostly irrelevant imo, especially now that Brian is gone. What matters more is whether McD and Josh Allen will see eye to eye going forward. If, and I say if, the 13 second episode is at all indicative of the HC’s mindset, inclinations and character (more than just a mistake that anyone can have the misfortune to commit) then I could foresee problems given Allen’s aggressive competitiveness. They aren’t paying McD a quarter billion dollars.

I’m not sure that McD has the self-confidence/courage to share space with a big name badass OC (not that I think Payton would come here in that capacity). And thats why I am very interested to see who gets the job here. I think that and the plan for the draft will tell us a lot.

Haven’t seen a partial reported. I assume a total tear. His prognosis is 100% recovery however.

Well personally I would roll the dice on Williams being able to contribute this year. As I mentioned elsewhere Pickens saw the field eight months after surgery. Dominick Blaylock also back after eight.These guys are not normal human beings and the get the benefit of world class rehab. Thats why I doubt he gets past receiver needy teams before we pick.

All the news regarding Williams has been very positive. Pickens was back eight months after surgery.

Burrow is elite. Has ice in his veins. Josh Allen is super elite. Pat didn’t beat him last week. His coach did.

He’s not going anywhere but he should be on notice.

Not sure I follow. Maybe just me. If Williams is there you jump on him imo. But thats because all reports that I’m familiar with seem to say his 4:3 speed will be unaffected and that he should be ready in Sept, Oct at the latest. I don’t really see him as an injured player around which there are serious questions as far as the draft is concerned and thats why I doubt he falls to us.