starrymessenger

Browns and G-men are not trading out IMO. Darnold & Rosen in that order. Cleveland has screwed up before passing on real deal guys and trying to do things on the cheap (Johnny Football). They have learned their lesson the hard way and won't screw up again. Eli can still play but not for long. Just as we have been talking about a vet to bridge a rook, that's exactly where the Giants are. This is their chance to nab another franchise guy. Who knows when that chance would come along again (look at us). They are not stupid. They will take Rosen. Then you have Jets, Denver, Zona (who are likely to move up IMO) all in the market for a QB - Allen, Mayfield, Rudolph...I think one of Lamar or Rudolph might be there when we pick. If Allen has a bad senior bowl week and game he could drop a fair bit. He has a bad record against power 5 teams and the ability to step up will be important for his draft status. Unfortunately if we want a QB we may be eating the table scraps and leftovers rather than the 32 ounce Kansas City special. Mind you Rudolph or Jackson could very well pan out and one of the top guys fail. All depends how OBD feel about whose left on the board. They may opt for a second tier guy on day two or three in which case they will be bringing in a vet who can start.

But can he throw the deep out lol. Answer: no he can't. And neither can Brees.

I'm clueless about this guy (as well as other things no doubt) but if it's true that Belly wanted him I would take that as the highest recommendation.

No. He looks like a hog.

Shazier was a huge loss. I really think that our guys do have an eye for defensive talent, and, as you say, player development on that side of the ball. Good times comin.

No doubt player development is important but they clearly have a great eye for talent when it comes to that position group.

Steelers know wideouts. Wish we did.

Except that Pitt has a better chance of taking down the Pats IMO. Although if they are on their game I would be really interested to see how Jax's D would make out against Tom & Co.

With McCoach and Frazier I begin to believe that we are not that far from having an elite D.

If Beane likes Cam (and I suspect he does) maybe he makes a play for Josh Allen.

I don't think Ritchie is a racist, but he has said racist things lol. Seriously I think that Ritchie is sort of an A-hole, but I really like good guard play. There are lots of nasty things that are said (and done) in the pit that I'm sure are as offensive as racial slurs. At the end of the day Ritchie is just a football player. It's not like he's the President of the United States or anything. So I find it easy to look the other way. But, speaking as a foreigner, and with all due and sincere respect, I think you folks are f#@&ed.

The RB position needs to be addressed and upgraded, and I believe it will be. I don't know though how OBD will prioritize their needs or what their philosophy is in approaching the draft. Many observers have said that as a general matter and across all position groups this year's class is not especially strong. If that's true then it's maybe not the greatest year to be showing up with a boatload of picks, though no doubt there are enuf great players for us to have a successful draft. OTOH the RB group is unusually good and deep. One approach would be to take that into account in setting the board and in giving that position group a certain priority. There is a generational talent (Barkely)who will and fully deserves to go top 5. Guice is not too far behind and there are a number of other guys who project as franchise backs. While it's certainly true that you can find a good to serviceable RB in later rounds, in a trade, as a FA or even off the street, there is a big difference between that type of back and a true franchise back. A franchise back is an important cornerstone in a traditional NFL offence. John Elway was a HOF QB but the Broncos only won a championship when they found a great RB. If you are drafting and grooming a young QB his best friend is a strong running game. The Bills have an elite back, but for how much longer? Since they need an upgrade to spell him, why not draft his successor? If they get lucky maybe they find another Terrell Davis in the sixth round, but the percentages are much more favourable in rounds up to an including the third. If a guy like Penny is somehow still on the board in the 3rd I certainly wouldn't be upset if the Bills pulled the trigger. If the Bills don't prioritize the position and are interested in finding a "complementary" back to McCoy they might consider Bo Scarborough in the fifth. I think he may well still be there because of injury concerns and the talent that will go before him. But he's a Karlos Williams clone without the career threatening addiction to China food.

Ref was standing fifteen feet away looking right at it.

Like I said, it's Coaches call, and I'm just reporting this as a rumour. OTOH I'd be surprised if the HC and the GM did not discuss important appointments like the one this would be, and it probably helps if they are both onside the decision.

Sorta like Mike Williams and Corey Davis. Guess they suck too lol.

Just an unconfirmed rumor but I heard Coach wanted him but Beane did not. It's Coach's call but McCoy allegedly off the list.

Not sure why he would make that comparison. Something Rudolph appears capable of doing is throwing a very catchable ball with accuracy and touch to all parts of the field. Henne doesn't really strike he as someone who can do that. Rudolphs stats certainly exaggerate his value though and need to be dicounted somewhat in evaluating him.

Not at all what I am saying. First of all to the extent that he's a "decoy" who opens up the passing game underneath he has to be a credible vertical threat. He is that (at least opposing defences seem to think so). I'm not defending him either but the last minute long ball that he failed to convert and that eliminated the Rams is a perfect illustration of my point. Sammy cleanly beats his cover but has to slow down because the ball is under thrown. He does a good job of using his body to box out the trailing corner at the goal line but let's the ball fall right through his arms although he's in very good position to make the play. That's entirely on him and that's why he's not elite.

Agree about accuracy, but that also sort of makes my point about fundamentals. You cannot consistently be very accurate without good mechanics.

Don't know about Walter Football. From what I've seen, read and heard (scout podcasts) Mayfield has a lively arm, plenty enuf to play at the next level. Not elite to be sure but plenty good enuf to make the throws, sort of like Russell actually. Also the comment about not having good mechanics is not what I see, read and have heard. Apparently he doesn't get credit for it but probably he should. Its unusual for smaller guys to make it, they are rare, but he looks to me to have a decent chance. All of the projected possible first round QBs have flaws. They all pretty much also have something (albeit different things) to offer. I really wish I knew what the braintrust at OBD is thinking.

I agree he has the tools to develop into another Russel Wilson. He's technically very sound, has good footwork, compact throwing motion, quick release, good field vision, accurate, strong arm. He will have to tone down his enthusiasm a bit, though hopefully not his leadership, when he starts playing with adults. Somehow tho my gut tells me that Beane is looking for the prototypical big boy pocket passer. Maybe Rudolph as many have speculated. He'll probably be off the board well before we get to pick anyway.

I can see why the Rams would want him. Kupp and RW, who are good possession WRs, will not be handing in such outstanding report cards next year if Sammy or an equally credible vertical threat is not on the roster. They are not that easy to find. With Sammy their passing attack worked well. Why fix it if it's not broken? I don't know if there is any favouritism in Goff's selection of targets but I would doubt it. Not making any excuses for Sammy regarding his production or his failure to make some crucial plays but it seems to me that while Goff has developed into a very good short/intermediate passer it's also fair to say that his long ball could still do with some work. I've seen Sammy beat his man cleanly and get under thrown time and time again.

Just so you know, Seth Galina is a coach at a High school here in Montreal, where hockey is really what people do. Maybe you should handle his opinions with care. No disrespect but he's hardly a mainstream analyst. Besides I think Galina means chicken in Italian. Actually Billspro is 100% correct (though not about Allen going in the fourth). The senior bowl is were you want to see Allen (even tho he's not a senior). I hope he gets lots of snaps and I look forward to hearing how he does in practices. The Combine will simply confirm his elite physical traits (and he will wow folks) but not give you any insight into what he can do in live action against pretty good competition. And that's the main issue surrounding his draft status. If he has a bad senior bowl week and game he could fall quite a lot.

He takes snaps 5 to 7 yards behind that enormous line and he has a compact delivery and a quick release. If he has to line up under centre in a pro style offence the big bodies will be a lot closer and if he's short that could be a problem. Moreover when Georgia adjusted at halftime from rushing 3 to rushing 4 he had trouble. If he's Doug Flutie short I don't know that Beane will want him. He helped draft Cam and the two backups on that team are both prototypical size. If as college listed he is 6''1" I would personally have no concerns.

You're right. I don't know how high MRs ceiling is. But picking a QB is largely about projecting his skillset to the next level. Only two QBs playing in a system like the one he does have been high picks - David Carr and Patrick Mahomes. And they were only picked where they were because they have elite arm talent. Rudolph does not have that. His arm strength is average by NFL standards. There is nothing really wrong with that. It's good enuf for him to have a career. But it's one of several things that will likely cause him to drop, quite possibly out of the first round. I think he could very well be there when the Bills first pick and I think there is a chance they take him. Forget about Washington. The guy you want IMO is his teammate Marcel Ateman. He will be the better pro.