The Wiz

Even still, Josh did enough with subpar talent around him both in college and the NFL his first few seasons to show that there was something special about him. I have no doubt that Mahomes would have shown that he was ready for the NFL and had what it takes but that's basing it on the fact that he would have had a year to sit and learn behind Turod. As for Darnold, USC QBs have always been a flash in the pan to me. They are great in college and are bad pros.

If you put Josh on the Chiefs and Mahomes on the Bills there would have been different narratives about each of them with the talent they had around them at the time is my point. I have a hard time thinking Mahomes would have made Zay Jones and Charles Clay look anything as good as Tyrek Hill and Travis Kelce. Mayfield had the chance with a good deal of talent around him and failed. Darnold never really had the chance with the Jets. Rosen had Fitzgerald at what feels like 40 years old. Lamar had nothing but really didn't need anything since his game wasn't based on passing but running.

It's not exactly a fair comparison saying that Mahomes would have transformed the franchise based on where we were at the time and where the Chiefs were at the same time having gone 11-5, 11-4 and 9-6 from '15-'17. Could he have, sure. The Chiefs at the time though were a much better equipped organization from top to bottom for developing him including letting him sit and learn behind Alex Smith.

The devil you know....

You're wrong.

Never specified from when.

Well I'll take Bruce Smith and Jerry Rice also. Michael Strahan along with reggie white. All in their prime.

Sorry. I just feel down right now because I had to destroy my phone. Definitely not related to anything I said or did.

Pretty sure my post on the first page covers that.

Tom Brady is my choice. He knows how to bend every rule in the NFL on offense. 😉

Or.... now hear me out..... I got nothing. 🤣

And Zay actually learned how to catch a ball under him. Sign me up!

Thanks Chris.

Absolutely. I'd happily welcome him to the billsMafia.

If, hopefully when, the Bills win a SB, Oshei will never need another donation again.

They also can't promote until they do the minority interview.

I still like the mandalorian.

You must have missed my post from the first page.

Along with renaming their forum "the 13 seconds lounge" And they haven't changed it after last night which makes it better. Would love to see someone post one of those "how it started, how it's going" memes with the 13 second reference on their site.

Would be interested if his comment about the OC would deter anyone from taking the job. When asked about who would call the offense him or the OC he said that depends on who he hires.

I can't find their game thread anymore which was really a thing of beauty. Wait, found it. https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=342285&page=162

Watch it or don't but damn this is probably my favorite Nick Wright video. Literally thought he was going to cry.

Considering the bengals were a 0.4% chance to make it to the superbowl I would say pretty damn huge.

Interesting conversation on WGR a few minutes ago. Talked with a NYG writer and asked what the biggest obstacle that Schoen and Daboll would have to overcome and flat out said paraphrasing "making changes to the team without upsetting ownership".

Reid was an 8 at best last night.