maddenboy

My idea, stated a few days ago, is here: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/139731-lets-draft-5-linebackers/page__p__2334948__hl__maddenboy__fromsearch__1#entry2334948

This. There is no coherent plan at OBD. All they do in the draft is patch up leaks. Can we build a dominant unit or two? And THEN patch a hole or two when we are 1 or 2 players away from doing something serious. Lets stop drafting every single year with a stupid goal to improve to 8-8. I'll settle for 2 more years of 6-10 if year 3 is 13-3 because of solid drafts with an actual plan.

Luck is going first, whether its to the Colts or some other team. Colts' new GM might trade the pick (to a team that will definitely take Luck) or else he will draft Luck himself. Why the hell would a new GM keep the first pick and draft anyone else? Stupid.

according to this at NFL.com, we pick 10th. This was posted Jan 2nd, after all games were done. http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/01/02/2012-nfl-draft-order-pick-nos-1-to-20/ Colts Rams Vikings Browns Bucs Redskins Panthers Jaguars Dolphins Bills (coin flip at the combine between jags and dolphins for the spot)

While we're at it, I think HOLDING is penalized too strongly. Offensive holding backs me up 10 yards??!! Too much.

I think she needs a bigger forehead though

My point about 5th round wrs is that after about the 3rd round, you dont find good Offensive Tackles, but you can find good wrs in almost every round. So when OP said to draft wr, then later an OT, I was saying that he had it backward. On passing downs, i'm pretty sure its the DE who sets the edge for the OLB to run around. I'm assuming that OLBs want to go to teams where they can pressure the quarterback. Sure, on rushing plays, maybe the olb, especially the LOLB, might have to set an edge to drive traffic back inside.

Oh really, Fairy Godmother? Name a single decent OLB or speedy WR who will be desperate enough to come to Buffalo when he hits free agency. What speedy WR wants to extend his career by having Fitz throwing to him downfield about once every other game? What decent OLB wants to have his edge set by Spencer Johnson? Yes, I am stating the reality that Buffalo is an unattractive destination for free agents. As to your draft analysis, I can agree with the first round. And maybe the second round NT that you want (but I prefer another linebacker), but after that, I think you should draft OT higher than WR. 5th round wrs are better than 4th round OTs. And for sure, this team has needs other than Safety. Hell, we need RB more than safety, and LINEBACKER more than anything on planet Earth.

For a couple years before we switched to 3-4, I had been arguing that the primary benefit would be that our Offense would finally be able to practice against the defense that every team in our division was running. Getting to the playoffs starts with winning the division, and stupid JP and stupid Jauron couldnt seem to solve the 3-4 "puzzle." That said, I want what works best. We have about 1.5 linebackers. If you arent going to draft me several linebackers this year, then why run a 3-4??

(when the Jury is OUT, it is out of the courtroom, deliberating over its verdict. Then, when the Jury is IN, we have it announce a decision/verdict. Just sayin. Carry on).

I assume his point is that Barnett was not retained by a Super Bowl Champion. Meaning he was not a "starter" on a "good" team. Yes, he is for sure one of our best linebackers. But by implication, that suggests that we dont have a "good" team or "good" linebackers.

Since Barkley is staying, I dont care. Because I cannot get a qb anyway, whether i draft 6th or 9th or 12th. Otherwise, I'd rather have lost. I dont want George Edwards to fool people for a couple weeks and keep his job. I dont want Trent Fitzpatrick to fool anybody and not get a qb in the first round.

Also, for some reason, Gruden seems to lose respect in his locker rooms. Maybe he's just not a good modern-day HC. Probably a helluva quarterbacks coach, but he wouldnt take that demotion. I'll pass on chucky. Marty-ball is the only realistic shot. I agree with young and hungry first though. No established names want to come to live in BUFFALO, with no real QB, no serious OWNERSHIP, a bean-counting front office, and 2 other (soon to be 3 other) big-time head coaches in the division.

1) Dolphins 2) Dolphins 3) Dolphins. Anyone who doesnt have Dolphins #1 is probably less than 35 years old. That is really the only other team whose result is important to me every single week. No matter what the Bills do, I have to know what happened to Miami before I can sleep. God I hate them. Worse, I am sad that this isnt one of the NFL's top 3 or 4 rivalries anymore.

I'm not asking which one is better. I'm not asking which "team" you think would win heads up.

If you could trade our entire offense for Green Bay's offense, and keep our Defense intact, OR trade our entire defense for San Francisco's defense but keep our offense, which would you choose? And why? I say the Niners defense. Easy. They are young, strong, hungry. They are what we wish we were. If we had the Packers offense, they would only get 5 or 6 possessions per game, because teams would pound our defense to death playing keep-away. But with a top defense, our Offense would get more chances, and Fitz wouldnt have to try to win every game. Then we could take our time in FA and Draft to build up our offense. Can I get my linebackers now? (If I can get one of the top 3 qbs this year, I will take him. Otherwise, front 7 for at least the first 3 picks). You cant have too many linebackers and pass rushers. That's why the Giants keep drafting DEs and the Steelers keep drafting linebackers. And the Bills keep drafting running backs.

And then we'll trade back into the bottom of the first round for another one, since we wanna put pressure on Freddy to take a crap deal. Cart first, then horse.

Streamlined your post. I still want 3 to 5 linebackers this year, but i'm cool with getting a QB first. And if I get a qb, i want him first or not at all. The rest of your post is just noise.

. . . I think you are looking for "proverbial." As in something that is based on a proverb, or sounds like that kind of handed-down wisdom or fable. I dont think you mean to suggest that its something done by perverts. Carry on, sir.

Note that OP did not say "team," he said "franchise." We're not talking about trading roster for roster. We're talking about comparing everything over a 7 year span.

Bless you, my son.

FYP

Note: Not a single linebacker is injured (except Merriman, who has been injured every day for 3 years). And yet, the defense continues to suck. Please, lets fix the linebackers. And draft enough of them to have depth, in case 1 or 2 goes down. A 3-4 defense needs maybe 7-8 linebackers. We currently have about 2.

. . . early and often.

Aaaaaaaah. Now THIS draft get me in the mood. All thanks to Astrobot, who already knows this, but it cant be said enough times. You are so necessary to the intelligent discourse on this board. I dont know what we would do without your input. Most (all?) of us are waaaaay too lazy to actually look stuff up. Thank you sir. I would be in heaven if your draft came to pass. What's wrong with "Best Linebacker available?" You chose to switch to a 3-4, which requires many linebackers. You have about 1 or 2. You know that linebackers are what makes a 3-4 go. So how about COMMITTING to getting some?