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Oh Yeah you are right. We also believe that if there is an opportunity to acquire talent Beane is not the person to get it for your organization. He is good at giving away talent

Oh you mean when people make up all kind of stuff about Marcell and try to pawn it off as fact. You let me know what potential all star this regime is trying to acquire or draft .......I will wait

That would be believable if they got rid of mostly high priced veterans but they didn't virtually everyone on the offensive side was on their 1st contract. If that was the truth Groy would be starting for us now saving us 6-8 mill a year . Kyle is not worth his price at 34 on the last year of contract. Losers stock pile picks just ask Cleveland. You need to know how to draft for example KC draft play makers not choir boys so while for example Tyreek Hill is blowing up the league we have our regime try to make a case for little Milano the little LB that could.

No he saw that the front office wasn't about winning when he traded Watkins for a pick and oft an injured CB.....Hell the CB is still injured

No I would rather Whaley trade up to get D.Watson Sorry buddy he was stripped of making pics ... Don't try to lay this egg of the draft on Whaley...Mcbeane made it pretty clear why he wanted and traded up to get ahead of Carolina to get Dawkins and Zay Jones he was in contact with McD or did you forget that conversation on inside knowledge that Carolina was interested

Mc Beane cant evaluate talent that's why he can make moves ....Its easy to get rid of players its hard to acquire because you have to have an eye for talent . I cant see this gm acquiring a Shady or getting a Hughes for virtually nothing do you ? Lets face facts the only reason he is here is because of McD. How are there draft picks holding up? They wanted and traded up for dawkins and Zay those two picks are killing this team because this regime thought they was ready front line players and not complimentary to Watkins and the Offensive line. Why all of a sudden Groy is not in the conversation for O-line playing time? I'm not even going to get started in Duucause and Tolbert when I last checked Mcd knew nothing about Offense but he thought the people he would get rid of in the purge was on the offensive side of the ball of young on first contract players in the name of culture change making our team the second oldest in the league. Incredible talking about someone not deserving of promotion Beame picture should be front and center

You need to take off those rose colored micky-d glasses. When you get rid young players while keeping older lack of talent players Tolbert, Duucasse , Holmes we know how the season is going to turn out..... You know we had 8-9 men in the box for the past two years we still rank #1 in league in running what changed ? Regime thought that Groy , Miller was no longer viable as guards on the number 1 rushing unit. How is Dawkins & Duucasse holding up ? they couldn't run to save their lives. He is chip Kelly light

Well Said

Dude stop putting words into players mouths..... There is not a shread of evidence that he is pouting. How about this theory he probably see what we see the players are getting shipped out of here and being replaced with substandard replacements in the name of culture change Usually when you change culture you get rid of most of your older players. This regime did the exact opposite . So you telling me that the people that experienced the drought the most should be here. I think they may have been part of the problem. Do you really think that cast offs like Tolbert , Ducase Holmes ,barnyard, Dimarco made this team better ? Just like Rex before we have a regime that took a strength and made it into a weakness. The past two years we ran against more 7-8 man boxes than any team in the league but still we ran the ball with the best of them. What changed ? A defensive coach/ an inexperienced gm both with resumes of winning or drafting nothing of note decides to tinker with something they know nothing about , the offense... In the name of changing the culture they get rid of Sammy Watkins a prime receiver causing the problems we have today. Boy how is Tolbert working out as a back up running back ? ( J.Williams looking better and better) Did Groy fall under this culture change he has yet to suit up at guard when we was the #1 rushing attack ( why is Ducasse still on the team again) Talent evaluator Bean thought Zay was the answer, boy is the game too big for him right now but for beane to think Zay was as good a Sammy Watkins shows me he is not a good judge of talent. Carolina for years was looking for a WR , offensive lineman to no avail. Beane has no track record of acquiring talent so we can have a zillion draft picks his history shows all he know how to do is get rid of talent not acquiring talent. most of our draft picks came because a coach had interaction with them. Not because they were highly rated. This is chip Kelly in reverse; systems don't win games players do. Until we get a legitimate talent evaluator we will continue to look at the Chiefs and wonder how that GM is able to find late round gems while we talk about special teams add-ons.

I love Jerry comment it was spot on. Kelly need to stay relevant might be part of his problem.

`Hell with Jim Kelly . out with old in with the new. Thank you for your 30 year service a new sheriff in town you might have been part of the culture problem.

By the GM you do mean Whaley........Micky D and mcbeane had nothing to do with that

Probably when McBeane realize he is over his head constructing the second oldest team in the league employing his buddies instead of letting talent drive the decision. Wow how did 33 yr old back up rb do ? He is only three times more expensive 10 years older than Johnathan Williams. Boy that was a smart move by coach to make Brandon Tate inactive.... Oh Mcderett did so well on the clock management . Give me a break Tyrod is the least of this coach problems The coach is the biggest problem... Thank Godness for Leslie Frasier

that's why I commend Whaley he knew all he had to do is get the shoulder repaired for the long term

Its hard to rebuild when you have the 4th oldest team in the NFL.......This is nothing more than a short term fix to appease the easily distracted fans ........the lipstick on this pig wont change that this regime is still sporting a pig ......nice try

the bottom line is the owners want to see sold out stadium. If they can't sell out the first game they might not sell out any this year. Owners don't like when you mess with their bottom line. Pelugas will see the error of their ways when their pocket books are hit. Hopefully they will hire a competent GM from a sustained winning organization with an eye for talent evaluation. Then he can hire a coach that understands talent wins football games. What is RB system is Tolbert (31) helping with that he is on the roster ; What system is Vlad Ducasse helping with that he is on the roster; the city knew Jordan Mills was bad two years running this GM thinks he is OK , I thought he had an eye for talent? Speaking of the newbie GM do you see any gems he brought in ? How are the two 215-220 lbs LB doing he drafted. I haven't heard much from them but they made the team really? This is Chip Kelly -light, at least Chip had a pedigree. I see today they have great seats for the opener. I hope some business help them out because it will be embarrassing. That's how much faith the football fans have in Mcbeeanie right now . With all the changes mcbeanie made, basically giving ex Carolina Panthers jobs that was cut, we now have the 5th oldest team in the NFL. Now that saying something changing the culture . I guess old dogs can learn new tricks

The make up of the team. lack of a competent back-up QB; I don't remember the OC ever working with David Webb , the coach/gm knowing webb doesn't make it a viable option for a offense coach/gm never experienced. You can't deplete areas of talent with out upgrading something. which this novice GM is good at doing it seams.

No I just see bad moves ; you can't . I think attendance this year will tell the story . That will get the owners attention . I hope for mcbeanie sake they hit the ground running

The fans must agree unless someone buy up the tickets we will have our first opening day non sellout in 10 years . I guess we don't trust their process enough to sell out the stadium. I bet that get the owners attention

I guess you can try to slap lipstick on this pig of a team if you want. The Fans has spoken; we haven't had a first game non-sell out in a very long time. Look like the fans don't want to pay to trust the process of two people that don't have a clue on what they are doing. I hope Leslie Frazier can save them because the mcbeanny team is out of their element I'm looking forward to possible coaching and GM's candidates becoming available

Sorry buddy if you think getting rid of the young players replacing with older ones who are not as good is a good idea. I have Dick Jauron and Marv levy to send you as head coach and GM again,,,,,,If Whaley would have done any of this nonsensical crap we would be screaming at the top of our lungs . I guess we can be more patient when the incompetent look more like us...

I am not willing to give a few years to some front office and coaching novice to get rid of talent. If this was a true purge you would not have Vlad, Mills or Tolbert on the roster all old players would be gone ie: K Williams or Woods. This is something stupid its easy to get rid of anyone its hard to add talent something this regime has not been able to do

Well you should ...... because this group don't have a clue THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE IF THEY DIDNT GET RID OF YOUNG TALENT AND REPLACE IT WITH OLDER PLAYERS WHO ARE NOT AS TALENTED . TOLBERT BELONG ON NO ONES ROSTER HE IS ONLY HERE BECAUSE THE COACH AND HIS WIFE ARE BUDDIES. YOU GET RID OF J. WILLIAMS , WHO IS YOUNGER AND CHEAPER FOR HIM..

If you are asking my Crystal Ball if the tiny twins will be replaced over/under 4 yrs I am taking the under guessing 2 years . 3-13 Bean/Dermitt do not have a clue or an eye for talent If you bring your own they better be young and up and coming .....has he traded crap for an all pro player ---answer is No ( I don't see a Jerry Hughes on the horizon from this GM) Is he getting rid of old players with bloated contracts that's been with the Bills more than 4 yrs answer again is No.( Why is Woods or K Williams still be on the team when you are starting something new---- they may have been part of the 17 yr problem) If you was so worried about culture you get rid of the old (roster 4 yrs and up) and keep the young players like what Cleveland is doing..... The Bills was so worried about the past scouting dept really. Beane scouting dept just told us that Vlad Duccasse is a viable guard really...... Don't get me started on Jordan Mills this scouting dept said he was having a strong camp on what planet....... Anquain Bolden 37 they signed Jeremy Maclin 27 better receiver GM couldn't do his job and reel him in after a 2 day visit. Tolbert do we need a 35 yrs old back because he is friends with the coach really I've seen this crap before . Ask Chip Kelly if culture/system is a winning formula No its the ability to acquire talent without giving away your own.... This regime don't have a clue

Because Bean/Dermitt do not have a clue or an eye for talent If you bring your own they better be young and up and coming .....has he traded crap for an all pro player ---answer is no( I don't see a Jerry Hughes on the horizon from this GM) is he getting rid of old players with bloated contracts that's been with the Bills more than 3 yrs answer again is no.( why would Woods or K Williams still be on the team when you are starting something new---- they may have been part of the 17 yr problem) If you was so worried about culture you get rid of the old(roster 4 yrs and up) and keep the young players like what Cleveland is doing..... the Bills was worried about the past scouting dept really. Beane scouting dept just told us that Vlad Duccasse is a viable guard really......Jordan Mills this scouting dept said he was having a strong camp on what planet....... Anquain Bolden 37 they signed Jeremy Maclin 27 better receiver GM couldn't do his job and reel him in after a 2 day visit. Tolbert do we need a 35 yrs old back because he is friends with the coach really I've seen this crap before . Ask Chip Kelly if culture/system is a winning formula No its the ability to acquire talent without giving away your own.... This regime don't have a clue