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To the op I hear you man... To root for this team is extremely tough not bc of the losing it's bc of the total lack of caring from the top. Being a bills fan is an abusive relationship to say the least. We all want more from this team and more emphasis on winning yet we don't get it. Blind fandom insures that this team will make money bc if we don't buy tickets/merchandise they might leave (again tying in to the abusive relationship). I have spent this year pondering my fan hood and don't feel it makes me less of a fan. I can't stand when ppl say if you leave you never were a fan at all and that is bs! I have spent a ton of money traveling hundreds of miles for 5 years with my season tickets and I couldn't justify it anymore. I have bought many jerseys and worn them with pride only to see the bills not pay them and let them leave. I can't support something that just steals my money. All I ask for is a genuine effort to be competitive not just to make money. Yesterday was a weird day for me. For the first time that a game was blamed out I didn't watch the Internet feed or even make an attempt to. When the game got out of hand I took a nap. Never could I fathom skipping a bills game and not caring about it. This is not what I want out of my favorite team. I love the bills. I love football. I think my disenchantment with both is disheartening to say the least. I can't leave I can't quit. But I have stopped caring so much and that is Ralph's fault. So when the ticket representative calls I will laugh at him again and be sad at the same time. Remember when every Sunday you knew the bills would win? That they had the better team and if they lost it would be an upset? How long ago was that and how terrible is that?

As it stands now bills have 10th pick they would only need to move up to 6 or 7 to have a legitimate shot at rg3 so they won't have to give up as many picks to move up as you think. I do however disagree with trading Freddy away why take a strength and a position with depth an make that trade and weaken the position? Also with spiller showing flashes splitting time would help both of them stay healthy...

what more would you like to see? He has 5.5 sacks at one of the hardest positions to transition into the league at. I think he has played well especially given the circumstances around him. Getting cam would have been great but I guess so would getting elway, rothlesburger, or any number of qbs we had no shot of bc they were taken before we drafted!

Yes please Nolan might not be a good head coach (although one stint isn't enough to judge... Belicheat anyone?) he has proven over and over to be a great d coordinator! Sadly I think we're stuck with the stache if Edwards is dismissed which I'm not a fan of. He's has done little to nothing to improve this d and I've never been a fan of his whether it was dolphins or Pitt his teams always seemed to underachieve.

Chiavettas?! You mean gods gift to chicken marinade? I make skewers with peppers and onions as well as Chiavettas chicken wrapped in bacon many times a year it's a family and tailgating staple!

Graybeard thanks for letting them know but please dont give crayonz credit . Crayonz is not funny and doesnt add anything to a conversation Yet ppl here seem to enjoy her/him (whatever) . I cant tell if ppl just view it as our own "special" poster or severe stockholm syndrome but the schtick is old. Id rather have scooby posting on this board than crayonz. On second thought... maybe scooby is crayonz! btw crayonz I wont respond to you so please save your time in trying to bait me... and Graybeard I mean no disrespect to you in any way I'm glad you informed them so crayonz cant bait them anymore.

Thanks for the props on the draft but I didn't use the simulator I just scrolled through and picked players in an acceptable range according to my estimated finish... I was intrigued by rg3 being ranked 74th does there simulator base on projected draft pick or overall ranking it seems he is thought to be a top 10 pick or have they not been updated recently? I would be very happy with that draft for my previously stated reasons!

I agree. On Sunday morning from the time I wake up until game time I am hoping for a Bills win. During the game I am rooting for a win. Once its over (now that they are officially out of the playoffs) I will be happier with a loss. Monday through saturday I hope they lose the upcoming game. I dont think meaningless wins change the culture I do KNOW they give you a lower pick and less of a chance to get a stud with your first pick. Also it is no secret Miami needs a QB and they will probably actually do something about it and get one. Lets just hope its after the Bills have been given the option to take one if there is a good one (Barkley or RG3) available. 6 teams from each conference make the playoffs... once its not possible why would a team not want the best possible draft pick?

Bills wont trade up Buddy says he likes to stay where he is and let the draft play itself out. Also even back to the san diego days (and easley here) the drafts he is involved in have wrs taken in the middle rounds. I feel pretty confident it wont be a wr in round one. I wouldnt mind a qb round one but only out of Barkley, RG3, and Luck. Im not sold on Jones as a qb (although he does have an alltime great football name - have to think he will end up on the cowboys with that name) as OU qbs have a spotty track record (even bradford is struggling mightily this year although admittedly with no weapons to speak of besides lloyd and sjax). Also I hate the idea of drafting the fourth best prospect at a position when there are so many holes on this team (Losman anyone). I would much prefer the number one olb or a top ranked player at a position of need. Top OTs will already be gone so maybe a DE or NT to really stack our dline. I really dont care who they take as long as its a stud, not a rb/wr, and actually pans out!

Not a fan of tannehill seems to do not so well against elite competition. Would much prefer Moore who could prob be had in the 4th.

I live in auburn and went to the bar to watch the game (I am 30) when we walked in the bar had about 20-30 people and 1 bills fan. There is a group of 6 of us that are bills fans and the rest of my friends are giants,eagles,steelers,packers, and niners fans with 1 or so jets fans. Regionalization should be done in Syracuse not Toronto as there is no local pro team allegiance based on location. But it would require a winning product! Most people my age were more than likely bills fans as kids and I know more than a few that became cowboys fans after the super bowl years. The worst is that people my age don't even joke about the 4 straight super bowls. No one even hates the bills (the mark of a good team-if you don't like the pats,yanks,sox, etc... You hate them). Now when people find out I'm a bills fan they simply feel bad for me. The bills have fallen so far among younger people that it is almost a badge of courage (or stupidity not sure) to be a bills fan...

Yeah I did my best evaluation of the rest of the season and figured anywhere from 7-10th pick was attainable losing the rest of the games (it's not Sunday so that's what I'm rooting for - on Sundays I can't help but root for the w) and I really would be pleased with the results of my mock...

Funny I would rank joe buck in my bottom five his baseball broadcasts are painful as he completely lacks objectivity. Add Troy aikman to that list of my bottom five as well. I like tirico I thinks he steers conversation without trying to be the color man and does well with play by play.

I did a little calculation and had some fun with the drafttek big board. I projected the Bills to have the 10th pick and did not reach for any players currently rated above that and this is what I came up with. (pick is overall number) 10 - Courtney Upshaw Alablama 3-4 OLB 42 - Zebrie Sanders FSU Left OT 74 - Cliff Harris Oregon CB (rated 73rd but RG3 is 74 no way is he still there) 106 - Kellen Moore Boise QB 127 - Matt Conrath UVA 3-4 DE (Ravens Pick) 138 - Ryan Broyles Oklahoma WR 170 - N. Jean-Baptiste Baylor NT 202 - Julian Miller WVU 3-4 OLB 234 - Landon Walker Clemson Left OT This would be a pretty good draft and would fill a couple of Buddy requirements. I have a db, a middle round wr, and a clemson player. On a serious note this would address our pass rush, our secondary, our front 7 (4 picks), give us a qb of the future (I think Moore is going to be a stud - great decision making and accuracy only question is his height), speed at the wr position (and Broyles is a monster as anyone who watches OU will tell you), o-line depth (two left tackles I know but many college tackles move inside to play guard and it is a very important position so why not have a bit of depth!) So what do you guys think? Should I submit my application to 1 Bills Drive and clear the last weekend of April - Or not quit my day job haha

I'm pretty sure raji went 9th and we drafted mckelvin that year at 11. Then I believe Matthews was in the maybin draft when ppl were split between Matthews Cushing and orakpo NOT maybin. I know it's a dead horse but the draft is one of my favorite football events of the year (prob bc I'm a bills fan and it gives me hope... Sometimes I'm dumb) and I follow very closely watching highlights and studying player info. So when they took whitner I remember hanging my head very low and got the same sick to my stomach feeling as when jauron and to a lesser extent malarkey were hired.

I'm glad he won it over luck. Although I was impressed with luck rg3had a much better season. I actually thought Barkley also had a better season as well. I thought the luck hype machine was going to win it for him anyway and am glad it didn't. That being said there is still no way luck is not the number 1 pick. Also Barkley more than likely will be the second qb taken which may entice rg3 to actually continue on to law school. Think about what life will be like on that campus for him next year ala Matt leinhart. Luck just did it last year Bradford did as well. Im still thinking he comes out but would be less surprised than I was when luck decided to stay if he does that.

This. He is higher rated than Hightower, should be available when we pick ( prob top 12 ), and fits a huge need (olb). would love for them to find a way to get Hightower in the second/late first but that would prob involve a trade up which buddy won't do.

Disagree with the first part as I feel it's a game and he had a little fun it doesn't make him immature to do so... However I can't disagree with the second part. I wonder what if any would have been the fallout had he caught the game winning td. Btw did anyone realize it was 1 day short of a year from when he dropped the Pitt game winner. Wonder what he doesn't like about week 12 :-p

Maybe... Until Ray Lewis put a hit on him. He'd be back to basketball real quick after that haha

I guess I'm not the only one who thought it was hilarious. Side note - this celebration did not cost LeBron the game they won 70-63. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3FgksrxzM0&feature=player_embedded *disclaimer - I don't think Stevie cost us the game with his dance and if you do well... your an idiot

First week all year I sat Stevie in fantasy lol I don't mind lookin like a fool... Keep crashing those jets Stevie!!!

Pick!!!

It's in Fitz to check off on that play

Sanchez looks beaten down lot of hanging his head this early in the game...

Is it possible to fire Edwards at half time? The bills have officially taken the fun out of football...