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I don't mind this as I agree with the flexibility angle. I would however prefer Cardale to get this start. I understand he is being "redshirted" but EJ is gone after this game. Starting him doesn't do anything developmentally for this team. I don't think it matters who the Bills trot out to start I think they beat the Jets as that team has entirely folded so I don't think the tank this game idea holds any water. I might be the last person on the EJ bandwagon. I think he got screwed here. I still can't believe that his Bills career basically ended in that Texans game when the refs missed a clear PI and the ball was intercepted. He had no QB coach his first year and then got the great David Lee ( ) along with Hackett to help him. I wonder if he can get it together on a team with a real coaching staff...

It wasn't a bad call. If it wasn't week 16. A loss or tie both eliminate the team so scoring is a must. There is more to situational game calling than what is happening in the moment. Relying on a defense that wasn't stopping them all day was a bad move that unsurprisingly didn't work.

I'll take a top 15 this year defense. The dolphins have 126 yards rushing on 15 carries!

I don't like to be reactionary but Corey whites effort on that td run is enough for me to see him cut right now. This effort is pathetic.

These are my thoughts in a nutshell. Thinking to next year... The Bills will get Ragland back which is essentially a free 2nd round pick, Shaq will have an offseason, they have their full complement of picks in the draft, Listenbee and Easley should be back. Without additional moves the Bills "should" get a talent infusion. Gillmore, Z Brown, and Lorax situations bear watching but I wouldn't be surprised to see 2 of 3 if not all 3 back with the team next year as well.

I also didn't realize how old he was. Wentz is only 3 years younger than Tyrod.

I think (emphasis on think ) that he tried to build on it and that is where the comments of blending the defense came from Rex. To me making the playoffs is a tough barometer in the East. The Bills have to play one of the best teams in the NFL twice a year. So while other teams can have a slightly off year and perhaps still win their division that doesn't happen in the East. You have to win the WC while taking 2 conference losses. It would be nice to compete with NE but they currently sport one of the best QBs and best HCs of all time. Currently 3 of the top 8 droughts in the NFL are all AFC East teams. Rex has had mild success against the Pats* which means those games aren't 2 automatic losses as they have been in years past. I agree with you that hoping for the chips to fall in our favor sucks and I don't want it to be that way forever but it is the current predicament. As an aside to your examples (I know that there are certainly examples of guys coming in and quickly turning it around) Quinn went 8-8 in his first year with Atl McAdoo was the OC before taking over HC duties this year and the Giants loaded up on D in FA.

Is that you Doug? I agree about our offense but I do think that a mobile QB fits this system better than a traditional pocket passer. I like Tyrod for his contract this year but get the trepidation over the next 2 years. QB contracts are out of control though so I also get that the market bears his contract being what it is. I don't think the Bills NEED a difference maker at QB but it would be nice to have one. I was extremely happy with the Cardale pick as I see him with an incredible ceiling however his floor is out of the league after his rookie contract imo. I just really hate the idea of blowing up a .500 team. Moving on from Tyrod without a plan in place would be a huge mistake imo. If they have the roster flexibility to keep him I won't be upset. Building and improving seems like a better track to success than starting over (again) for me.

TIL wins and losses are solely a QB stat! People love to say that Tyrod was exposed after coaches got film on him. Why don't they say that about Wentz? Wentz looked great. Against the Bears and Browns. In 3 of those 6 games Wentz passed for 190, 179, and 138 yards.

The Bills weren't loaded though. People have to take off the homer glasses here. They had a QB battle that lasted all through training camp. What loaded team has that? The Bills had a pretty good roster. Gruden took over a team that was already a perennial playoff team that couldn't get over the hump. That isn't at all what Rex had. The Bills also had an unusually healthy 2014 which didn't repeat in 2015. Sometimes the Ball bounces that way wrt injuries. As to what his style etc lead me to believe 201 will be better.... Ask yourself - is the Bills team better this year than it was last year? Imo it is. That shows improvement and says to me that the arrow is pointing in the right direction. I would like to see if it continues. I have said time and again if the Bills finish 7-9 fire him and I won't say boo about it. 9-7 though and I think it would be a dumb move.

I'm just following you around agreeing with you everywhere this morning I guess lol. I just want to add that watching other teams in the NFL it can also be MUCH worse than what we have now.

I agree with a lot here. Wentz has a lower ypa than Tyrod Wentz has as many passing tds as Tyrod Wentz has zero rushing tds to Tyrod's 6 Wentz has a worse Qb Rating (not QBR) Wentz has a worse QBR Wentz has 8 more ints than Tyrod Wentz has a worse int % (in case you wanted to blame his more ints on more attempts) However posters say Wentz is a "franchise QB" and Tyrod is the worst QB in the league - I'm looking at you Ryan L Billz I also agree on Bradford. How do so many teams keep giving up a 1st rounder for him?

boo freakin hoo 1 time in 10 years the Bills got to 9-7 and that guaranteed that they were going to be great in 2015? How many times do you see teams go 9-7 or better and then return to earth the following season with the same QB and HC. Just this year I can think of Carolina, Arizona, NYJ, and Bengals that had it happen to them. The Bills regressed 1 game. All of those other teams have had much worse regression. The Bills had a new HC, new QB, New offensive and defensive system and had a 1 game regression. They weren't that much worse in 2015 than they were in 2014 record wise and ultimately that is all that matters. Was the defense worse? Yes absolutely. Was the offense better? Yes. This year Rex could potentially get the team back to 8-8/9-7 again.

Me neither but he is about the only player I saw that could possibly be used.

I think he goes to Houston for their 1st rounder. I agree with others that he won't be traded in the division or if he is it's because BB doesn't think highly of him. He is much better than any other backup they have had imo. This will be an interesting scenario to follow. Maybe they keep him for one more year and part with Brady at the end of next year.

Completely unsubstantiated rumor but I have heard for a few years that Boeheim is not involved much in the day to day coaching. To pile on I think the crusty curmudgeon way of coaching is not as effective anymore. There are guys (Howard comes to mind) that make a mistake and immediately head to the bench or avoid eye contact with Boeheim. There is a difference between coaching and yelling at your guys. I get him having high expectations and tough love etc. etc. etc. but I don't see him connecting with these guys. You have to have the soft side when you are a hard ass or eventually you get tuned out. I don't want to put this all on him though. Leadership is sorely lacking on this team. Lydon is the closest thing I think but he seems more a lead by example guy. Roberson, Howard, Gillon, White, and Coleman are all guys who could fill that role and none of them do.

I just want to say I'm happy you post here. We are in lockstep on Rex and Tyrod so you save me a lot of typing!

Damn I'm too late to the party but not too late to pile on. Fuller flashed big in his first 2 games. Then he has a TOTAL of 361 yards. Think about that since week 2 your difference maker has gotten 361 total yards. That is who you guys want to stick your neck out on? I'm honestly surprised nobody used Darron Lee. However if you look at the end of the first round there is (imo) nobody else who would be taken over Shaq if you are being honest with yourself. Once you get into the second you are starting to talk about guys who would have been major reaches at 19. Commonsense- I accidentally deleted your post but Keanu Neal went off the board at 17 so he wasn't an option.

Want to add on to what Polish Dave has already stated.... Tyrod is 21st by the old QB rating system ahead of Flacco, Cam, and Wentz Combining the 2 would put him at 16/17th in the league For all the moaning about his contract next year Buffalo will have the 20th most money tied up in the qb position in the league and TT cap hit will be the 20th highest in the league. About in line with his performance. For some other information: Tyrod is 25th in ypa (the most damning stat against him imo) ahead of Flacco and Wentz Tyrod is 24th in completion % ahead of Cam and Jameis Winston Wait a "cot member" ( ) can post negative things too?! Before I posted those things I bet most of you bemoaning TT's year would take all 4 of those guys over TT. Tyrod is, from the numbers, outperforming Flacco, Cam, and Wentz this year.

Patriots have 6 Cowboys have 7 Steelers have 4 Ravens have 2

Remember the Browns search a couple of years ago where the settled for Pettine? By your reasoning that job should have been snapped up. There is more to it than just saying it is 1 of 32 jobs imo. Some jobs are "good jobs" like Denver with Peyton and some situations aren't like Cleveland a couple of years ago. I could be wrong and am not speaking that I think it is absolutely true but half of the fan base is so rabid for success that every single move is under the microscope. I know we love our Bills but it isn't a glamour job. How often does the team get a sit down with the top candidates. Hell it happened with the Bills where nobody wanted the job (although I think that had plenty to do with Ralph). Thanks Hokie as I was going to have to look it up. Those Charger teams were top of the conference and it was a poor move to relieve Schottenheimer of the job. It certainly did not work out for them so I don't think it can be used as an example of why this should happen it just shows that it does happen. It was the wrong move to fire Schottenheimer and the Chargers still haven't found that same success. It did work for the Broncos a couple of years ago and I have already posted about that.

I certainly see your point but Elway hired one of "his guys" and the team was obviously on the cusp of something. They had Peyton as Qb and a great defense. Surely you can see how that would be a more attractive opening that Buffalo where the team hasn't made any sort of noise for 15+ years. Love your avatar btw!

Who would come to a team where 17-15 after 2 years gets you fired. The expectations would be crushing from the second they take the job.

by the way I have tickets for tomorrow nights game I could let go cheap if anyone is interested. Send me a pm. Section 310.

Yeah this is where I fall even if I have spent most of the day defending Rex. If they go 7-9 see ya. 8-8 losing to the Jets - I'd be okay with him leaving 8-8 with a close loss to the Fins - I'd be fine either way 9-7 has to stay imo.