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In football, it will soon be called "The Maybin Line" when referring to defensive lineman with no career sacks, or maybe the "The Bills Line" in the general futility of first round draft picks.

The Mendoza Line . . . The Mendoza Line is an expression in baseball in the United States, deriving from the name of shortstop Mario Mendoza, whose lifetime batting average is taken to define the threshold of incompetent hitting. Even though Mendoza's career batting average over nine seasons was .215,[1] most often the cutoff point is said to be .200,[2] and, when a position player's batting average falls below that level, the player is said to be below the Mendoza Line. This is often thought of as the offensive threshold below which a player's presence in Major League Baseball cannot be justified, regardless of his defensive abilities. Pitchers are not held to this standard, since their specialized work and infrequent batting requires less hitting competence. The expression has been also extended to other realms to indicate a low-end cut-off point. Origin of the term Mendoza, a flashy defensive player from Chihuahua, Mexico, played for the Pittsburgh Pirates, Seattle Mariners, and Texas Rangers and usually struggled at the plate. Mendoza was known as a sub-.200 hitter whose average frequently fell into the .180 to .190 range during any particular year, even though his career figure reached .215. The "Mendoza Line" was created as a harmless clubhouse joke among friends. "My teammates Tom Paciorek and Bruce Bochte used it to make fun of me," Mendoza said in 2010. "Then they were giving George Brett a hard time because he had a slow start that year, so they told him, 'Hey, man, you're going to sink down below the Mendoza Line if you're not careful.' And then Brett mentioned it to Chris Berman from ESPN, and eventually it spread and became a part of the game." Berman deflects credit back to Brett in popularizing the term. "Mario Mendoza — it's all George Brett," Berman said. "We used it all the time in those 1980s SportsCenters. It was just a humorous way to describe how someone was hitting."[4] Other uses In the movie business, the Mendoza Line is used to describe a movie that earns a per theater average of less than $2,000 over a weekend. For films released by major studios, it costs about $2,000 to create and ship a print to a movie theater, so, taking into account the revenue earned over the whole week, and the share of revenue kept by the movie theater, if a movie earns less than $2,000 in a theater over a weekend, the studio would have been better off never playing the movie in that theater. Similarly, for movies in limited release, earning over $2,000 in a theater is enough to encourage theater owners to continue booking the movie for additional weeks. Films earning below the Mendoza Line therefore tend to disappear quickly from theaters.[5] Wikipedia

One with no injuries to your starters and key back-ups.

Yeah, Missouri . . . the Erie Coummunity College of the midwest

This entire thread started like a car going up the the exit ramp to get on the highway, and only got crazier from there . . . the ghost of Fitzgerald comes back to haunt the board again.

Is this the same source who told us about Meriman getting busted?

Here's what Gailey better understand; Fred Jackson is the heart and sole of this team, if he looses Jackson, he loses his team, and the fans!

"Usually, running backs drafted that high have a pretty decent rookie season, and if they don't, they ain't ever gonna get much better." Let's hope that's not true, we all want to see him develop, and I would say he needs to take a huge step forward this year or he may slowly but surely become the Arron Maybin of the Chan and Buddy era. Like I said, I certainly hope NOT!

The Bills have no need for Pryor - we have Brad Smith, same player, just less character and intelligence, and ability. Just Say No!

I could not find a list of players who will enter the Supplemental Draft, is there anything out there?

Isn't there an pretty solid OT from OSU also going in, I would rather it be used on him if there is any potential. Just found this: Mike Adams 6'8, 308 pounds | Offensive tackle | Ohio State Adams was the Buckeyes' starting left tackle the last two seasons and has 17 career starts. He was a first-team All-Big 10 player last season. As a pro prospect, Adams looks much more like a right tackle who needs to add strength to his frame. He's a long player who, in comparison to other linemen, is lean. In pass protection, Adams is a little stiff moving to his left, especially in his second move. He has optimum length for the position but not the foot quickness. He's shown the ability to anchor on the edge in the run, but isn't a drive blocker. For a tall lineman, he gets good leverage. link

Word was, they looked at Barnett, but he wasn't interested. Go figure, did the BIlls get one over on them?

THAT IS THE POINT! I'm mad as h#@%. If this is true, it is serious problem for the NFL. Hopefully, someone in the Bills organization will raise Holy Hell.

Maybe as a Jet Doesn't he realize he's getting played by Rex? Anyhow, if he does make their team, can't wait to hear the special welcome he gets when he returns to the Ralph.

And Maybin is no where to be found. . . . same old same old

How funny, and we all thought Urbik was the problem. Go figure?

Spiller, especially if he has a year like last year

"Vonn Miller reminded me of Maybin" . . . that's like a death wish upon him, come on, you can't hate him that much

Can he, or Pears, play guard?

Reality check one: Ever watch ESPN? NFL Network? The Bills and about 23 other teams are trying to upgrade their offensive line. There are no quick fixes, and as another poster documented, drafting OL is a crap shoot. Second reality check: It takes time, lot's of time, to develop O-linemen. In my opinion, we have some decent people with potential, don't panic, give it time. Urbik is young, and new. How about we at least give him the pre-season before we show him the Maybin treatment. Third reality check: We do have Hangman, he is a capable insurance policy, who if needed, can come in and hold his own at center or guard.

Not sure why some want to keep calling the Smith signing a "luxury" signing, as if that's a bad thing. He can play several positions, he seems to be pretty decent at all three (OB, receiver, special teams), and brings experience and maturity to a young team. He's a proven contributor on the field as well as off. I wish that we could sign several more players that can contribute in multidimensional ways like him. Moreover, it's not an "either?" "or?" decision, just because you sign him, doesn't preclude you from signing other players. If they said, it's Brad Smith and nothing else, I could see the angst. But no one has said that, we did sign a quality LB, and hopefully when it's the right guy, we can get the o-line and TE help needed. My point, enjoy the contributions and added dimension he brings -- we need more "luxury" pick-ups like him -- and keep hoping we can add the other needs as soon as possible. Just saying.

Not!

Why not try Hangman there? probably not as strong, but I think he is quick enough and smart enough to get the job done. I know it's only two weeks of practice and one pre-season game, but I think the Urbik experiment, while a good idea (he is big and strong), is just not working???