chris heff

Agree, you know what would be great if all 32 teams tried to tank for Clowney. Imagine how great the season would be if everybody just tried to throw every game.

Sven, you are correct sir.

How about " The Vomit Comet" instead. Love it, but instead of Kool Aid can I just stick to beer? It has always made me think I was going to get lucky, that pretty delusional.

Haven't we beaten this to death in about three other threads? So EJ was a little tight to start the game. Not like there is any pressure on him, "no pressure EJ we're all counting on you". He got better when he stopped thinking and started playing. In that two minute drill he was throwing to Choice, Dickerson and Woods. Two guys on the bubble and a rookie, no Spiller, no Johnson, no Chandler. The NFL season is long and hard there will be a lot of third stingers that see plenty off playing time. Oh and by the way those third stringers are out there fighting for their professional lives. How did Luck look against the ones? If Philly loved Kolb so much why did they go out and sign Vick? Vick was still pretty controversial. They had a few years to get to know Kolb and bring him along, groom him, and yet they signed Vick.

The first picture was so small, I thought they were customized dominos. No thanks.

You forgot that going from 8 to 16 for EJ also changes what you pay for that first round QB.

It was accidental, I was re watching the game and at the 9:36 point in the third Harnish makes the same gesture that EJ did.

He's Regis Phillabaum's son.

Man I forgot about Alliota's.

Will do, next time I visit my sisters. I love a good fish fry.

Geez you guys it was a joke. I haven't lived in Buffalo since 1974. I have no idea if that bar exists. Never heard of Casey's Tavern on Amsterdam. I know that Casey's on Hertel was there in the 1960s and the same owners opened up the one on Elmwood in 1970s. I took the bus from Casey's on Elmwood to the game against the Dolphins in 1980. That was a great day.

You are right and well said. This is way better than Fitz, Thigpen and Smith

I could not agree more.

It's right next to Casey's on Hertel Ave.

Maybe they could trade him for Skelton.

I miss that guy he was a high motor sideline guy.

Thank you, glad you are back and feeling better. Game was fun huh? It was one, the only number that would fit.

Who knows, but why not make a difficult situation more difficult and see how he handles it? Isn't that what preseason (practice) is for?

I did mean paramount and I can't even blame auto correct. Fixed it.

What you saw on Sunday was a microcosm of EJ's FSU career. There were games when he played lights out like he did during the two minute drill. Then there were games when he would zero in on a receiver, aim the ball, like in the beginning of the game. Go to YouTube you can watch two games from last year in their entirety. FSU vs Clemson and FSU vs Florida, they represent the good and the bad. I will say this about the bad, Florida was ranked fourth at the time, FSU defense did not help. EJ had five turn overs, one int not his fault and one fumble, in the NFL would have been a personal foul penalty. That being said it was still not a good game for EJ.

I think what happened with people not giving EJ a chance has to do with a couple of things. The preception of the FSU offense is that it is simple and EJ was inconsistent in a simple offense. So that led to the opinion that although EJ was athletic enough, smart enough, he was raw. Everything we all read or heard pre draft was that although EJ had the greatest upside, he was not NFL ready. I thing with the media there is a lot of group thinking, if a few write or say it, then everybody follows suit. It is easier to say the same thing everyone else is than do your own reaserch. As far as FSU is concerned, I don't think that offense is simple. Yes it is a very limited number of plays but they are run out of multiple formations. EJ did not have a very good relationship with Fisher. I believe that the relationship between a head coach and his QB is paramount. I don't believe EJ was suited to Fishers offense and their relationship, or lack there of is what contributed to EJ being inconsistent. This in turn led to EJ being labeled as "not NFL ready".

The things that bothered me had nothing to do with EJ. I thought EJ had butterflies. In the two minute drill he stopped thinking and just played. Everybody wants to add a but to the drive, so I'll add one or two of my own. Yes the drive was against second and third string, but EJ was not throwing those passes to guys named Spiller, Johnson or Chandler, but to Choice, Woods and Dickerson. What did concern was the CB play McKelvin needs to show up. The other thing was the interior run blocking didn't seem to be anything there. I don't think you can bounce everything outside.

I watched every team in our division in their first preseason games. None of them performed as well as the Bills. I know that most of what I saw were second and third stringers, but some of those guys will end up seeing a lot of playing time.

My take: EJ got better when he stopped thinking and aiming the ball. Tuel is a steal. Goodwin wow! That is speed. Kiko some good some bad, nice break up on that attempted TD pass. I think I like the Sheppard Hughes trade. O line needs work. CB needs help. Hopkins kick offs were bad. The Bills looked better coached.

I want to go on record as really liking fun bags.