Mr. WEO

Obviously it was not a good move. Hoping your 4th round pick would become a leading WR2 isn't a great 7 year plan. That's how not good at drafting WR they are. Need more? Proehl, McCloud, Hodgins, Stevenson, Shakir, Shorter. Out of 51 draft picks. Dorsey obviously has nothing to do with this.

no I believe they can't understand the need AND draft for it based on their evaluation of guys who are available. The failure to draft a single WR higher than the 4th round despite the chronic need is simple stark proof of this. So you believe they have been correct in not drafting one "high" because they got Diggs....but now they should draft high despite having Diggs. Because he's in decline? If they are really good at evaluating draft talent, then they aren't very good at evaluating guys they picked over WRs.

Why wouldn't you draft another WR high even with Diggs? That's an odd take. Cinci took Burrow and Higgins in the same draft, despite having Tyler Boyd--and then drafted Chase (#5 overall) one year after Burrow and Higgins (33rd overall). Dallas drafted Lamb (5th overall) despite having Cooper. Miami brought in Hill, even though they drafted a 1000+ WR (Waddle at #6 overall) the year before. SF drafted Aiyuk (in the 1st), despite drafting Samuel the year before and Kittle 2 years before. That's 3 teams that spent high on WR despite having a solid room already. Anyway...2 drafted WR on the roster after 7 drafts?--and both of them in the last 2 drafts. There were 3 drafts before the Diggs trade. WR was a need. They drafted Zay Jones in 2017, then got rid of him 2 years later. The next year they took Josh Allen...and traded up for Edmunds, with Ridley and DJ Moore just below. Still needing a true WR1 (John Brown was a flash in the pan for 2 teams) in 2019, Beane went with Cody Ford AJ Brown and Metcalf there. Can anyone demonstrate that Beane has recognized the need for WR and addressed it significantly in the draft (with picks, not picks given away)the past 7 years? Currently, an aging Diggs ("1st rounder"), Shakir as a #3/4, and a guy drafted straight to the IR.

Goal posts not moved. no obvious talent for evaluating a position of significant need, category WR. If you can't diagnose the problem, you probably are not very good at solving the problem, logic dictates. The roster needed and needs WRs...tell me, if they let Davis walk, how many Beane drafted WRs (all time) are still on the roster? Beane has treated the WR draft as an afterthought, relying instead on an endless stream of FA WRs parading through for short stints in Buffalo on their way out of the league.

he coached for 3 more years--that was the record for those last two years. This guy had all the weapons he will never have in DC....still he flopped.

More money makes you smarter? Explain the Sabres...

Quinn had Ryan, Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley, Austin Hooper, Devonta Freeman....... and still finished 7-9. Twice.

That's not what I'm doing (see below), hope you enjoyed that show. When WR is chronically a position of need and it's not addressed in the draft...it's because the GM is very good at assessing the WR position? He just can't tell when he needs one? How does that make sense. And 2 guys in 7 years isn't much of a track record--especially if the better one is likely gone and the other has 65 targets in 2 years.

when you don’t swing the bat on a position of need, that’s a failure of evaluation of the first order—pretty simple. It also means he couldn’t recognize it was a problem Look at the receivers passed on over the years. Now, 7 years into his stewardship we have a declining Diggs, Davis likely gone, and Shakir. It’s a disaster the obvious difference between Beane and BB is that his struggle drafting WRs had no impact on the teams 20 year dynasty

Davis isn’t a WR1. Davis was a decent 2 (despite the sentiment here). Shakir is a complimentary guy. 2 decent picks in 7 years I guess. the need is in the top spot.

yeah Belichicks legacy will be “couldn’t evaluate WRs” lol the point was he never prioritized a position of need (WR)….

two guys. 7 years

You’ve reiterated my point

I'm a fan of Gabe, but he's probably gone. Shakir is decent WR3 material. But...so what?

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10107817-nfl-rumors-ben-johnson-saw-commanders-execs-as-basketball-guys-was-turned-off this is how you get Dan Quinn

he's shown no aptitude for evaluating WR talent.

That's because 2/3 of those in Jax don't have indoor plumbing---so they get confused at the stadium.

meanwhile....lol: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/raiders-to-hire-marvin-lewis-as-assistant-head-coach/ar-BB1hDBxh

When has he done that in his tenure as Bills GM?

I think he's pretty good, but he won't last long in then NFL. He's very breakable. Doug Whaley has already claimed Hartman has "that It Factor"...

Yeah, what you really want is a guy in his 30's with 1 or 2 years experience as a Coordinator...

Tre was the best DB the Bills had for his first 5 seasons (playing with Poyer and Hyde). Butch Byrd goes up before these 2 guys Byrd, Kyle for sure.

Neither is even the best DB the franchise has had.

as the only representatives over the past 25 years?