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Find a GM who values the QB position. Whaley has failed miserably.... ej manuel, thad lewis, jeff tuel, kyle orton, matt cassel, matt leinart, tyler thigpen say hello I give TT credit to REX.....without rex's input, TT would never be here.

RG3 sucks...he's a loser.

very fair analysis.... i'll just say it again....i'm all for upgrading the QB position.....i'm operating under a bird in the hand is worth five in the bush. don't get rid of TT until that better QB is on team. there are 10-15 other teams looking for better QB play........if EJ or Cardale started every game on this years team we'd be 2-10 instead of 6-6. if our defense was Top 10, we'd be 9-3 instead of 6-6.

true dat

play TT til we are officially eliminated. play EJ never !!...complete waste of time, he sucks and is gone next year. play Cardale after elimination AND only if coaches think he's ready. otherwise wait til next season.

shady is an absolute stud....our only 1st team pro bowler..(Richie & kyle as alternates). could you imagine shady behind the Dallas O-line.....probably average 10 yards a carry.

on this play, prior to the pocket collapsing, I see: LT - glenn does his job LG - Richie does his job C - groy blocks no one RG - miller gets pushed so far back he is first to make contact with TT. RT - mills gets pushed so far back he also makes contact with TT. TE - Christian gets a nice chip block helping mills, then gets over powered. TE - O'Leary goes out for pass. is covered underneath(by 54), breaks left, becomes open AFTER pocket collapse. slot WR - runs same rout as oleary, is covered. WR - Goodwin-looks like he was the target on this play the way TT sets up. I say goodwin runs the wrong route, he was supposed to go down the sidelines, but read coverage and broke towards the post. he was double covered.

not a single WR was "open" on that play prior to the pocket collapsing.

on this play I see a RG & RT even with help from a TE get pushed right back into TT's throwing pocket....total breakdown of protection.

Find a GM who values the QB position. Whaley has failed miserably.... ej manuel, thad lewis, jeff tuel, kyle orton, matt cassel, matt leinart, tyler thigpen say hello I give TT credit to REX.....without rex's input, TT would never be here.

I see a perfecly thrown ball to a slowed broken footed WR who would have made that catch in 2015 and a RT that can't protect.......(laffin)

this is being discussed in another thread... Pro Football Focus begs to differ with your evaluation.... they say TT was "under pressure" on 19 of his 41 plays....that's nearly half the time.

his record is 1-2 since AJ Green got hurt.

Wash will franchise tag cousins for a second time if need be. he will not be a Free agent.

Andy Dalton didn't look so good when AJ Green got hurt

it has nothing to do with his top 3 WR's from last year missing for all or most of this year (Sammy, woods, Hogan) and last week his #1 TE stayed home ....and his starting center & RT are gone......those are just excuses (sarcasm) .....

starts in place of who ?

NE doesn't over spend because they don't WANT to. belichick would rather trade out of the 1st round and pick up an extra 3rd or 4th round pick. he would rather trade an upcoming superstar before he has to pay big bux (see Jamie Collins to Cleveland, chandler jones to Arizona). it's about spreading out the salary cap and risk of injury over several players instead of one high priced player. like the Bills are paying dearly for Sammy Watkins injury tying up 2 first round picks. in new England that would be two seconds and two third rounders (4 players vs 1)

and I agree with this

name the great coaches who never had a pro bowl QB ? it'll be a very short list.

is this thing off ?....cause it's about to be.

you will NEVER get players and coaches to "tank". their future livelihoods are at stake, either on current or other team. now a GM or owner may try to tank....see colts pre Luck.

this isn't an individual sport like golf or bowling. the quality of the other 10 guys on offense matters to a qb rating. a defense that gives up 38 points isn't going to win very many games.

TT has not "regressed". he is the exact same qb as he was last year when he was ranked 7th in passer rating & total qbr. what is different is the players NOT around him....last years #1, #2 & #3 WR's, #1 center, #1 RT and at times #1 & #2 RB, #1 TE and just as important his O coordinator ...to some these are facts, to others just excuses. last year TT was near leading the league in deep throws, mostly to Sammy. you replace TT with any young QB who has "upside" on this years team....and our record is 2-10 instead of 6-6. if we had a Top 5-10 defense, our record this year is more likely 9-3. I agree with everyone that TT is not going to win us games with his arm, just be careful what you wish for, it so easy to do a lot worse.

by the only measure that matters....playoffs.....we are the worst over the last 18 years with the longest active drought. Bills(17), Cleveland(14), Detroit (2). if you are looking towards the future, you could make a reasonable argument that the bills will get to the playoffs before the browns.