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There are countless players that were/are D-Bags that have won. Winning teams have HC that can motivate elite talent, even if that talent comes with negatives. HC like Marrone draw a line in the sand and have a "my way or the highway" mentality. That may work in syracuse, seems like a recipe for disaster in the nfl. Jimmy Johnson said it right when he cut a bum LB for sleeping or being late to a meeting, but if troy aikman fell asleep hed nudge him and tell him to wake up. This isnt HS. Benching Dareus DOES NOT help the team on Sunday. Ezpecially if its over something silly.

So let me get this straight: on the same board we have a poster saying that tj graham is good in one thread and in this thread we have comments stating that kyle williams should be a ROTATIONAL player?! Its going to be a long off season.

Screw Cowher - hes a dinosaur.

Jboy, this is nothing personal against you, but tj graham sucks man. Let it go. Its been 2 years and this guy has more drops than TD's. Tj Graham is not the reason we lost the game but hes not a solution to anything - he's a part of the problem in Buffalo. And that problem is always coming up small on critical plays. If its not stevie its chandler if its not chandler its graham if itsnot graham its someone else. That ball hit him square in the numbers. MAKE THE CATCH.

This thread is nonsense. I didnt see a single time where cj bouncing out of bounds hurt us in this game. I did see how freddy was stuffed on crucial short yardage....as always. Same people who complain about cj bouncing out of bounds complain about EJ being dumb and NOT runnimg out of bounds. cj is a small back. Hes not jim brown

Dareus.

Hahahahahahahahaahahhahaha. Pats play pee wee w bills bc no respect for us

Dareus. Grow a pair.

The pats are so ahead of us its embarrassing

Bills cant even recover a fumble

Nate hackett - cant call goal line plays and cant call short yardage plays.

Well at least Pettine HC convo will end now

Dareus is a POS. keep justifying how he lives up to his draft pick. Fat POS

Ya guys. We dont need a TE

Dareus an idiot. What a loss

Lmfao at Dolphins.

Being on the field is the only place to be. In the game. Being in the booth is useless. Theres no positive spin on ej missing time. Correct me if im wrong but ej was also in booth after cleveland injury and he waz horrible in pitt game when he came back.

Geno looking good today. Nelson w big catch for jets Sucks so bad that EJ hasnt gotten reps

Schobel needs to be there before Freddy; Moulds too. Ruben Brown

Patriots @ Home cover against the Bills. Bills 13 Patsies 27

I know it sucks to say this, but I see us having no worse of a shot against the Pats with Thad in there.

Key to beating Patsies in Patsy land is to go straight up to Brady and Bellicheat and punch them square in the face. It takes more than talent, it takes a certain attitude to beat those two clowns. We possess neither; not yet at least.

Once we finally get one hot Jill, she should immediately go on the wall; a rare breed indeed. I definitely see Kyle Williams going on that wall one day - especially if he stays here another couple of years. Like others have mentioned, there are others in line before Freddy is even considered.

Respect everyone's opinions. Since there are only a few of us who disagree with Freddie being on the WOF, I'll continue the contrarian point: Yes, Freddie is 3rd all-time for the bills with 5,067 yards; however, he's lightyears away from #1 and #2: Thurman had 11K + and OJ had 10K+. Freddy is lumped in with a bunch of average players after #1/#2. Eric Moulds is #2 in receiving and he's not on the Wall. Heck, Lee Evans is #3 in receiving and scored more points than Freddy and he's not on the Wall. Moulds/Evans are #8 and #9 in points scored in bills history while Freddy is #17. Both Moulds/Evans produced on some pretty bad teams too. Neither are on the Wall. The biggest thing for me against Freddy is that he's just not on the field that much. Out of his 7 seasons with the Bills, in 3 of them he's played in 10 games or less; that's almost half his time as a Bill. And when he has been on the field, he hasn't been the featured back Maybe if he reaches 10K total yards receiving/rushing I can see it..but I don't see him reaching that mark by a couple of thousand. He's a nice guy. Really professional, etc. but there are a lot of those. 15 years from now, when you're sitting at the stadium with your son/grandchild and you go through all the names on that wall and give a brief description for each, what would Freddy's watershed moment be as a Bill? I'd have a hard time to muster something up other than "he played hard/was a good leader". Maybe that's good enough, I dunno. Just waters down the significance of the WOF, in my opinion.

DPBERR: Not speaking for others, but I'm fully aware of the distinction between the HOF and the WOF. Bringing up Pat Tillman and Brian Piccolo is way out in left field. Fred doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same breath. Those two players left behind a LEGACY that transcends football. Fred has not. So i respectfully disagree. Because if Fred doesn't have the stats, and surely hasn't left behind a Legacy (at least not yet), then what does he have? He played hard? That's not good enough. What "incredible intangibles" does Fred have? Not trying to be an ars...