billsfan714

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Were you hoping for a 350lb center?

I agree, I would of given our 2nd and a 5th for Winslow in a heartbeat.

God anybody who thinks the Bills have a better secondary the the Steelers should stop watching football. I totally agree we need difference makers. We dont need any more solid citizen, works hard type that cant make plays. Donte Whitner couldnt hold Troy Polamalu's jock, and doesnt make plays. Josh Reed wouldnt even make the Steelers team, yet I hear people on this board say how good he is. When does he score TDs or lay someone out like Hines Ward. Edwards is adequate at best but is not a playmaker. He would make a nice Frank Reich not Jim Kelly. Roethlisburger keeps plays alive, Tom Brady moves and slides in the pocket and keeps plays alive, to make big plays. We dont have that. The picks we gave to Dallas for Losman could of got us Bob Sanders in the 2nd---a playmaker. Personally, when I look at the schedule next year, Im honestly hoping the Bills implode. Dont get me wrong, Im a die hard Bills fan, that lives in PA and has to hear these gloating "stiller" fans daily. But I know sometimes you have to take a step back to go foward. Just like one of the few bad Steeler teams turned into the Roethlisburger pick in the next draft for Pittsburgh. What I want to happen if they implode, say 4-12 next year is that...1-Jauron is fired and 2-We get a crack at the blue chip QBs that will be coming out next year and 3-and this may be a pipe dream is that we get a real GM. One who can spot talent in the draft, who will hire top notch scouts, who will trade down before he trades up, one who can make a trade that improves the team. You know like Polian use to do. I honestly believe there are people on this board, armed with their knowledge of college football and a few draft mags that could do better that Modrak and the previous GMs. A number 1 for an aging and statuesque Bledsoe, numerous high wasted picks on JP Losman, Donte Whitner---whose production numbers resemble a 4th round pick. The same 4th round piece of crap TE drafted every other year. The money wasted on DEs who dont produce. I would go on, but when i loook at the Steelers I see just how far we are away, and its a long, long. long way. Same when I look at the Patriots, and these are 2 teams that you have to get through just to get to the bowl. What do the Steelers have to address in the draft---a few offensive lineman...big deal. They'll have Mendanhall coming back to help fast Willy, grooming Limus Sweed to replace Ward in a few years. Defense is loaded. Roethlisburger in his prime. God im depressed when i compare us to them.

I always wish we had sucked more the year Roethlisburger was drafted, instead we got JP and set the franchise back 4 years.

If Andre Reed doesnt get in eventually the hall of fame is a crock. How many receivers are in the hall of fame right now? Andre Reed is in the top 5 in career receptions and in the top 10 in both touchdowns and in yards. How many receivers already in the hall dont have those numbers. Andre lived over the middle and took plenty of big shots. 13 seasons with over 50 receptions. Andre Reed MORE than deserves to be in the hall.

As a Bills fan down here in Steeler country its obvious the Bills are no where in the steelers league. The Steelers defense is truly awesome. Casey Hampton is very underratd noseguard. They have never over spent on linebackers, see James Farrior, they also get blue chippers in the 2-3 rounds. Hell Harrison wasnt even drafted. A great safey like Polamalu is a tremendous assest, like the Ravens having Ed Reed and the Pats with Rodney Harrison. How many plays does Donte Whitner make? Sorry I cant remember any. I would take any of the Steelers skill position players on offense over the Bills. Holmes and Hines Ward blow away Evans and Reed. Roethlisbuger is a gem, Heath Miller is a quality TE and Willie Parker give you the homerun. The difference in the Bills and Steelers is ownership and the front office. Its the reason Cowher went to Rooney and told him its either me or Donahoe, the Steelers kept Cowher and we got Donahoe and JP Friggin Losman. Its reason we keep and overpay for the like of Kelsay, Denney, Parish, Walker, Dockery and let Pat Williams, Clemens and Winfield go. Anybody who thinks this franchise is a year or two away is nuts.

I would have no problem with Taylor Mays, guys like this dont come around often.

Totally agree. Those career stats, except for tackles, look like Ed Reeds or Polamalus would be in about 4 games. A safety in the 8th spot should be a stud, not adequate. Ed Reed and Polamalu make players around them better. I dont think you can say that about Whitner.

If the front office is set on keeping our current group of DE's and a TE or center isnt rated high enough to draft in the 11 spot, I find Taylor Mays the 6-3 230lb safety from USC whos supposed to run a sub 4.4 40 a very tempting choice. They say you have to be strong in the middle and this guy certainly brings the wood every time he hits. As a Bills fan down here in Steeler country I certainly know what Polamalu brings. Thoughts?

Mid 40s living in PA and Im seriously pessimistic but with their could be a silver lining in the doom to come next season. If we couldnt put together a winning season with the second easiest schedule this year what do you expect next season with a much tougher road to hoe. The silver lining may be that we tank next year, ensuring DJ is fired, and get a top 5 pick in the draft. These 7-9 seasons just keep teasing the fans that there is hope, yet were not terrible enough to get the blue chip QB. We werent bad enough in the year JP was drafted to get Eli, Rivers or Big Ben, so we traded up and got the worthless Losman. Personally, Im hoping for 2-14 next year, DJ gets fired and the top under classmen QBS dont come out this year and we have a crack at them in the 2010 draft. Sorry Im not sold on Edwards, his production or durability to be a top QB in this league. Bills have too many holes to fill in the off season in the draft and free agency. Think about our needs for solid starters---OC-TE-DE-OLB. Then think about other positions where were weak--a solid starter at DT opposite Stroud, another QB, a solid second WR, Safety will be thin if Wilson goes and Simpson just got arrested. I dont think were solid at G and Langston Walker is a sloth at RT. Im also hoping after next season Modrak is fired and we get a GM who's actually willing to live in the city he works in. There are two people holding this franchise back....tightwad Wilson and Modrak whos drafts and personal decisions have been horrendous. We werent willing to show Pat Williams the money but were willing to show Kelsay and Shobel the money. We werent willing to show Winfield the money but we were willing to show Dockery and Walker the money. We werent willing to show Clements the money but were willing to pay Roscoe 4 million and Spencer Johnson 3 million. So we over pay for marginal talent, and then let bonifide blue chippers go so we can use draft picks maintaining the status quo, instead of improving.

Hmm.....funny we prosecuted japanese officers in WW2 for water boarding, which we considered torture.

Thank god we didnt get Ngata and Marcus McNeil, man those are some pitiful stats on Whitner for 3 years and well what can you say about McCargo.

I love thinking that we traded UP to get Losman and McCargo. Theres some brilliant front office work there.

Your right.... doesnt make it any better. Rodgers and Sanders for JP is just as bad. I think the average Bills fan with a few scouting mags could do as well as the Bills. 2003 we could of had Jason Witten in the 2nd round, a need for the Bills. Dallas got em in the third. Another DE we passed on over for Kelsay was Dwyane White. I hope the Bills learn not to trade up, Id rather have more picks not less.

The JP Losman pick sets us back for years. The 2nd round pick we traded could of been Bob Sanders S Colts and the 2005 first round pick we traded for JP, Dallas turned into Demarcus Ware. Think of that trade now and you cry.

Yeah old turk is a genius...dont run lynch at the goal and dont throw the fade to a 6'6 receiver.

Josh Reed, I'd cut him tomorrow if I ran this team.

Why any bills fan refers to Reed as savy is beyond me. Im a Bills fan down here in steeler country and reed wouldnt even make the steelers roster. His stats the last few years scream journey man yet we pay him a few million to post 4-500 hundred yards receiving. Why i dont know. Start Hardy, get him the experience, Parrish in the slot. Its not rocket science. How many fades have we thrown to Hardy in the redzone? Isnt that what we draft this guy for. Bills should draft another QB in say the 3rd round, see if you can find another Edwards, JP sucks and his contract is over. Draft a QB dont bring in a journeyman. Im not sold on Edwards, so if we draft another Qb in the middle rounds we have a backup and maybe QB for the future. It sucks we stuck with Shobels, Kelsays, Denneys, and Langston Walkers contracst. We over paying for Shobel who is past his prime and never was a factor in run defense. And to think we wouldnt pay Pat Williams 12 million but we will over pay for Kelsay. I agree with drafting a center, Polian made the line a priority. Get rid of these rejects like Preston, Walker. An NFL quality guard would be nice too. For godsake draft a NFL quality TE or sign one in the off season, to think we passed on Jason Whitten a few years ago make one cry. Kind of like when you look at what Dallas got for the picks we sent for JP. The mismanagement in the draft over the years is the reason were in the hole we are. Whitner over Ngata, JP Losman, Josh Reed in the second, Kelsay in the 2nd. Quit the recycled coaches, again look at the steelers, Cowher wasnt a head coach before, neither was Tomlinson. Just great Defensive coordinators--hmmm dude from the Giants is looking better and better.