May Day 10

so do we have to start over again? RIP Mr Wilson!

Well, I dont want to celebrate or get too giddy yet. Still a lot of unknown ahead.... However, the leaks out of yesterday's developments seem to make it look like nearly a best-case type of day. The best part IMO is the fact that Morgan Stanley scoured the wealthy and couldnt find any willing bidders. If they were having trouble then, it will be tougher now with a $1.3 Billion bid out there. I'd say it is looking very good that Pegula will be the last man standing by the end of August.

Does he like us? Or just want our money?

And I have refuted those thoughts without response time and time again. Less capacity, increased popularity of the NFL, internet/electronic sales. Reselling tickets and the art of perceived demand/reselling. Look at the Sabres. They had good teams in the early 90s too and could never sell out. Now it is perpetual sellouts and waiting lists even as the worst team. The entire event ticket industry has been completely changed over the past 10 years Plus the team hadnt yet regionalized in Rochester or Southern Ontario. I would also be interested to see the number of fans who travelled long distances (including visiting fans) back then compared to now. The Bills "prime" their ticket base with one or two electric seasons, they will need to cap STH. No doubt in my mind 1985 they had 20K some games. That grew into 80K when they were good. No we have 67K on bad days and need to sell 73K

There are nearly 6 Million people in Toronto. They say 16% of ticket holders are canadian, right? That is about 11K people. I would venture a very small percentage of them live amongst the 6 million in Toronto. The 2 teams would serve a different clientele of fan. And the Bills have trouble selling out late games because they have been terrible for a decade and a half with very few meaningful games down the stretch.

why not have both?

why wouldnt the owners want Pegula and the capital he will surely invest in the team out of pocket. AND a team in Toronto, leveraged some provincial and city monies... as well as a new Franchise fee from Rogers, etc

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worst game maybe 6-3 Browns... 8-0 Browns in the Blizzard was awful too. 6-3 OT vs Giants Replacement Players in 1987 had to be the worst. Worst watching experience? Probably worse but off the top of my head is the Seattle in Toronto blowout and this season's game at Tampa Bay

This is the man's legacy. The franchise would move to Toronto and carry all the history and records, which Reed is a part of. Also, money. If the hypothetical situation happened, I wouldn't fault any ex-Bill in being involved.

Once St Louis, San Diego, and Oakland are set, it will be announced that the NFL is expanding and they will leverage that to extort what they can out of Toronto/Ontario before they announce that Bon Jovi/Tanenbaum/Rogers are being awarded a franchise

So I wonder what we will find out next week, if anything. Im dying to find out what Aecom reported with the Stadium investigation, but apparently that is being kept under wraps. You know Trump will update everyone on whether or not he submits an intention to bid. I would be we will hear Bon Jovi officially submitted one (because it seems everything leaks up there). Other than that I wonder if we get any surprises?

Thats exactly how it would go down. $1 Billion dollar stadium, with demands for the State/County to pay for it all while providing the Bills sweetheart and crippling lease terms. Cant/wont do it? Well, we tried. We feel bad for Bills fans but we will be "an hour" down the road. They are all welcome to follow us! Oh, but Bills doesnt make sense in Toronto, so we will have to alter all that... etc.

35. I feel like a kid again here. Thanks guys! old folks geriatric center up in here.

Everywhere I worked has people who at the very least fondly look back at those Bills teams and have a couple good stories from watching those Super Bowls and/or were closely connected with a Bills fan(s) at the time.

Agreed on polancarz... He seems to be very vested in the team's future here and he is outspoken against the bon jovi group. Maybe Collins would have come to bat too... but the non relocation agreement was negotiated by polancarz and he seems hell bent on not being the county executive who loses the bills. All other politics aside

the notables from Mr Wawrow's report: Polancarz still seems adamantly anti-Bon Jovi The Toronto firm who looked at sites is meeting with Buffalo next week. Possibly opinion, but purchaser may be identified by late August.

scooped the scooper in scooping his scoop

If you read between the lines, it seems like this is what KJ is saying, but its getting mis-read.

watched the video. Really a bad look. It just appears the guy stands there and pees his pants.

If Glenn is out, this season is a huge uphill climb (knowing Alonso is out)

Very early, but this is what the first mock I see has the Bills "missing out" on Cleveland Browns: Shilique Calhoun, DE/OLB, Michigan State http://walterfootball.com/draft2015.php

If you read between the lines, Kirby is agreeing with you.

I like my ticket stubs. I have 99% of my stubs over 30 years

no doubt. thats what has made this futility extra miserable though. I have little doubt that once the Bills are AFC East/AFC contenders, the ticket issue will be "primed" just like the Sabres' situation and people will be grabbing tickets for resale purposes, causing a waiting list and perpetual demand. With the futility, I feared we would never have a chance to get there I think that we do have a right to hold our heads high based on the tickets the currently do sell though. Going for the 7-peat of last place finishes.