May Day 10

its possible they cut a deal with Pegula as well for the future of that.

it should have happened in 2002 or whatever it was Houston came in. Preserving the Miami "rivalry" was like preserving the VCR tape

I guess the NFL will have to allow the Bills/Pegula to go about their way and assess when/if/how they can move a team in Toronto. I have said it before, I would love a Division with Buffalo, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Detroit (or Cincy), and Toronto

was this on "The Ocho"?

my confidence meter on them staying has moved from 90% to 95% this morning

Who is going to overpay? Tanenbaum is worth just North of $1 Billion, and Bon Jovi has like $300-$400 million, probably after selling a lot of guitars. MLSE as an entire company is "only" worth just over $2 Billion and that includes some of Tanenbaum's equity. Leiweke has a lot of money, but not a billionaire. If Pegula wants it, he is going to get it. Rogers' bid was the one real threat of Toronto coming over the top and taking it. I guess there are various boogeymen still in LA who would/could overpay, but Toronto has always been the threat here.

If kryk is right and Rogers is out that is huge. Almost makes me want to rejoice. He is/was always the biggest threat.... 2nd group however. Can he still team up with tanenbaum?

It says right on that page it is false. unfortunately

I would stay North of the stadium. South just feels further away and everything seems too separate. I like the Grassy Knoll lot on Southwestern.

I wouldnt have an issue if he were a minority owner with Pegual, but seems unnecessary. Unless he would be kind of the Ted Black/Larry Quinn of the Bills

what could ever give us any indication Bon Jovi would be a part of an ownership group who wanted to relocate to Toronto?

That Jaws thing was strange and over the top. Jaws made my do-not-trust list.

ugh, really?

So Massare has a good track record with these things?

Yes. Although Im skeptical that Kevin Massare has the most and only intimate knowledge of the situation.... if true that would be great

I think he is right on the money on most of those. Sums up exactly how I feel about most teams in like 2 sentences each

Con Air

probably reinhart. Ekblad wouldnt be bad either, despite having like 5-7 top prospects on defense. the big mystery is the possibility of dealing back into Round 1.

I think it would be tied closer to the team and work as kind of an operational Donation/Fundraiser. just shooting from the hip: Everyone gets a commemorative stadium founder's certificate $100 gets you a brick on the walkway to the main gate (goal 1,000) = $100K $200 gets you an autographed football from a Bills great (goal 1,000) = $200K The first 20 people who donate $2,500 get an exclusive dinner with Andre Reed and Thurman Thomas and a brick and a football $50K First 30 people who donate $6,000 get suite tickets to a Bills game and will share a suite with Thomas, Reed, Pegula, Talley, and Bruce and a brick and a football $180K First 5,000 people who donate $200 get first crack at purchasing tickets to the inaugural game. = $1,000,000 10 people who donate $10K will be on the sideline for a game. = $100,000 you name it, there are countless things that could raise a hell of a lot of funds... AND provide fans with some satisfaction for their $. Heck, they could even re-print those old 90s posters like Kellys Heroes and Demolition Blue and sell them off at like $25 a pop. Seats in the Bills' draft war-room, all access Training Camp passes, a full season Press Credential and blog... you name it. To me, the BFA's goals and main benefit was going to be largely symbolic. At this point their original vision is not as functional, especially with Pegula. With a face like Pegula's there I dont think the public will be lining up to donate interest-free loans to him without getting anything in return.... The team wont be in peril any longer, the participation would be minimal IMO.

lol if they move to Portland. Going from big fat guys in spiked shoulder pads and eye patches to games of hackey sack and drum circles

Basically a re-branded method of PSL. Perhaps they can run a "Kickstarter" type of thing with the BFA. Have different tiers of "donation" but offer cooler and cooler merchandise and fan experiences to go along with your donation.

Maybe a new owner sees this as a great community outreach type of opportunity and a creative way to get some grassroots funding for a new stadium or reno. Maybe they will come out with initiatives... like raise X amount of money and we will buy a new scoreboard/video screen for the concourse/bar area....

It just felt like over the final decade, they were not in it to take any real financial risk to seek out reward. Didnt pay for top management personnel/coaches, player facilities were/are fairly mediocre, as I mentioned outsourcing Toronto games, every time they made changes, it was basically just a reshuffling of the same management staff. It just felt like Mr. Wilson was running out the clock so his heirs can cash in on his success. The results on the field year to year speaks loudly as well. As far as keeping the team here... at least in old age, I dont see him moving the team and paying all the fees, stadium, etc as he was making a nice profit year to year and the team would make a killing when it sold regardless. Not necessarily making a sweeping judgement or anything. It is/was Mr Wilson's team to do as he pleased. What gives me a bit of hope is his historic stance against relocation. "I would think the max out" was bad wording on my part. I just dont think they will leave a significant amount of money on the table. We will see.

thats not why. NF is closer for me... NF, at least as presented in the City of NF is an insane and impossible idea. The numerous reasons NF is ridiculous have been stated time after time and somehow a couple people still think its a good idea. The State of NY isnt going to pour multiple billions of dollars to crowbar a stadium there with the hope new ownership could draw a few more people from Toronto. Niagara County and the City of NF certainly bring nothing to the table. Just thinking about it is a waste of time.

It doesnt make sense at this point to just raise money with a hope and a prayer. Not enough time. It has to be in conjunction with new (local) ownership and will likely be re-branded alongside of the team. Team would probably offer perks and an official "certificate" and help finance a new stadium or long-term improvements at RWS.