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19 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
That play was the result of Cook getting blown up in pass protection forcing Allen to throw the ball earlier than he wanted. That one isn't on any pass catcher. But on the next two plays opportunities were there and our pass catchers failed to make them, that's the reality.
No disrespect, but now you are blurring the lines here...you are now moving the goal posts from "WR's" to "Pass Catches" because the 4th down play was to a TE when the WR's were wide open.
And sorry, I do not at all think Cooper makes it 10 yards for the first down without the subtle slip, there were defenders all around him. And more importantly, the slip is a slip...its not skill related, that could have happened to any WR in the game. Saying if we had a better WR there, then the slip doesn't happen, and we for sure get a first is just not a logical conclusion.
Also - why are we throwing the screen to Cooper instead of Shakir, Ty, or Samuel who are much better and effective on a screen than the Ghost of Cooper anyway?
19 minutes ago, HappyDays said:That 2nd down play is why I don't join in with the chorus of complaints that we didn't use Cook enough on that drive. I think in a do or die drive to win the game you are going to have to rely on your pass game... Cook if anything was a detriment in that scenario so I understood taking him off the field. We needed Cooper or Kincaid to make the plays that were in their hands. But because they didn't, we have to listen to a lot of people including many Bills fans say that Allen didn't get the job done. It frustrates me to no end.
I am not one that was upset Cook was off the field in passing situations, Ty is a better receiver and pass blocker, so I agree with you. Now, if one wants to make a case we didn't need to keep throwing and should have tried to mix a run in with Cook, well that is a fair discussion. But when passing, I get why they went with Ty over Cook.
19 minutes ago, HappyDays said:Yeah I just don't agree with that. He was going to catch the ball several yards behind the LoS and KC had second level defenders in position to come down and make the tackle.
Not if you watch the replay from the top down angle, he had plenty of room to make the play, and quite frankly Shakir is excellent at RAC with ball in his hands and has broken big runs off in tighter situations. If Allen gets him the ball in stride its an easy first and likely a big gain. And Allen also had another WR in Coleman or Samuel running wide open over the middle to the left for also a first down as they were already past the marker. Cooper was even somewhat open.
The point is simple...the WR personnel is not at all why that play didn't work...yet I have seen people repeatedly blame the "WR's" specifically.
19 minutes ago, HappyDays said:I don't know why there is so much over analysis of that 4th down play. To me it's very simple - the best DC in the game called a 100% unpredictable blitz that would have automatically beaten any QB other than Allen, Mahomes, or Jackson. Allen made a miracle happen finding Kincaid and getting the pass off. Kincaid then performed the equivalent of a muffed punt and that was that. None of the other analysis would have ever happened if Kincaid had just done his job... And no one would be saying "wow what a catch!" they'd be saying "wow what a throw!" Allen did the hard part, Kincaid failed the easy part.
Exactly...I agree...yet all offseason this board has been beating a dead horse associating the full blame on this final series specifically to the WR room, which is not at all accurate on this series. What I and others are pushing back is the incorrect specific blame on the WR personnel on this final series we have had thrown around since the game ended.
We had breakdowns elsewhere is the point, it wasn't who the WR's names were on the field, they were open on multiple plays and we just didn't get them the ball.
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3 hours ago, KentuckyBillsFan said:
Kid seems to be overlooked and I get it but I absolutely think there's upside there. Thoughts?
I see upside in him, but I am not sure how much opportunity he really gets here right now...suddenly its pretty crowded on the DL, and thats a good thing. Groot, AJE, Bosa, Landon are all going to likely play ahead of him in the rotation. He will get some snaps, and I think he has potential to bring in those snaps, but he is probably pretty deep in the rotation to really get too many opportunities here. His best chance will be if injuries open up more reps IMHO.
I do look forward to see how he looks this year though as I do think he has potential, especially after this year if Bosa doesn't prove worth bringing back or if they wanted to say move AJE to save cap space and open up more reps for our younger guys next year.
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1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:
I am arguing if you have more guys to make plays in those end of game situations the tariff of the plays you need Josh to make comes down slightly. It isn't about whether Josh did or didn't make mistakes on the two game enders (and I happen to think he did make errors on both, not massive errors, slight errors) it is about their general ability on those drives to make the plays they needed to make. And when you can't win down the field outside it really has the effect of reducing the play calls available and the yards of the field available to use. And that increases the tariff of difficulty for the Quarterback.
Honestly, I agree with this, its clear as day we needed to improve on the outside, I am not in disagreement on that. My push back in general to the conversation around "blame" in 2023 and 2024 in terms of the ends of those games, blaming the WR's is lazy and inaccurate IMHO in those specific instances because both in 2023 and 2024 we had WR's get wide open and we failed in execution and did not even get them the ball.
Making a case that more help on the outside at WR maybe leads to more points throughout a game is a fair and reasonable discussion. But too many times on this board, WR's are specifically and incorrectly getting blamed for failures on exact plays/series where it was not the WR's on the field, it was breakdowns elsewhere that led to the failures of those plays in both 2023 and 2024.
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1 hour ago, FireChans said:
Hm, I wonder how hard we did try seeing as he's getting released for nothing?
Maybe we couldn't agree on contract with Jaire himself.
Yeah that very well could have been part of the issues, or could have also been GB wasn't being reasonable then in what they wanted based on them maybe still believing they could get the contract renegotiated. But now, with FA and Draft over, teams like the Bills also already added guys in both FA and the draft, so the trade interest just isn't there and left GB without willing trade partners.
Personally, I doubt Bills will have interest at this stage after the moves we have already made to bring guys in they are familiar with in Dane and Tre, paying Benford, and then drafting Hairston. Jaire also seems to want a certain amount of money, so given we brought in vets like Dane and Tre who know the system, paid Benford, and drafted Hairston, seems pretty unlikely this is his next stop. But you never know either
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23 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
A better WR gets the 1st on the quick screen we threw on the previous play. Instead the older WR we were forced to desperately trade for slipped and got shoestring tackled which led to the 4th down attempt. Two plays where Allen gave his pass catcher the best chance they were going to get and both times they let him down. His legacy is being defined by the failures of those around him.
Disagree, this idea that without the slip on 3rd and 10 its a sure first down is honestly exaggerated. Yet you also seem to just gloss over the first 2 plays, including 2nd down where Allen has his pass knocked down to a wide open Samuel otherwise we would have already made the first down. On the 4th down, Shakir was wide open for a first and more off the snap and another WR was running open across the middle to the left too.
And where I said the play outcome doesn't change was the 4th down play where we had wide open WR's for an easy first that we could not even attempt to get the ball to because Allen was under duress falling back to his right and forced to throw a prayer ball to a TE instead of the open WR's for an easy first.
Who the WR's were were not why we didn't convert a first down on that final series.
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1 hour ago, FireChans said:
I just don't think it's an either/or proposition.
Yes, imo, the defense has been crappier overall in the postseason if I had to assign a blame pie.
I think a lot of folks like @Alphadawg7 and @NewEra and @MasterStrategist see that as there's more room for improvement/impact if we add a star there. I think that's a reasonable take.
The problem is I have next to zero confidence that we would see that significant impact due to the apparent coaching mismatch.
Do I think adding a Myles Garrett may help us make an extra play or two to beat the Chiefs? Yes, I do.
Do I think adding a Myles Garrett is going to help us put up a 2020 Bucs or 2024 Eagles defensive performance against the Chiefs? I really do not.
So when it comes to beating the Chiefs (and beyond because that's not going to be the Superbowl), I don't really a vast distinction between adding an elite defensive player vs an elite offensive player. In fact, I think it's a reasonable take that adding a player who can catch 10+ balls from Josh Allen against the Chiefs will have more impact than a player coached by McD and schemed against by Reid to make an impact.
And to bring it back to Keon Coleman. I hated the pick, because I didn't see the vision of the ceiling. I'm not convinced he is going to be anything more than a Mike Williams type player. Now, Mike Williams was a fine player, but a player like that is never the "answer" at WR.
Ultimately, Keon's stretch of good play mid-season last year made me feel much BETTER about him. If he can be that player more consistently, I will feel much better about the offensive side overall.
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3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
This is the point. There is a debate here based on the final two offensive plays of the last two years on whether Josh was partly to blame or not at all to blame but that kind of misses the crux of this. Whichever of those camps you are in the conclusion is the same - we don't have enough guys around Josh to make those handful of clutch plays and so it always feels as though he has to be perfect in those scenarios.
If you have an elite receiver maybe they catch a ball that isn't perfectly thrown. If you have an elite defender maybe they force a sack that knocks the Chiefs out of FG range rather than just a pressure that gets a stop and holds them to 3. It is ALWAYS those kinds of margins at the end of Bills - Chiefs games. And the Bills have got it done in the regular season but not the playoffs. Another elite guy or two would definitely help.
But the problem is...Josh had multiple WR's wide open that last series, including the 4th down play...and also Kincaid at TE. The route Allen threw too though was the TE, so who the other WR's were on the field on that play are totally irrelevant because the pass still went to the TE even though there were WR's wide open we did have were open, including off the snap.
Those WR's could have been Jerry Rice and Randy Moss, it makes no difference to the play because Allen didn't have the ability to throw to any of the WR's we had, who again were open. Because we cheated the protection to the wrong direction, Allen had to bail to his right immediately off the snap and heave a prayer ball to the only guy he could which was a TE running wide open down field. Unfortunately, Kincaid didn't make the play...but unless you are advocating to draft a better TE, then who the WR's were on this play do not change the outcome of this play.
No one is arguing against having a better WR for Allen...but, this false narrative that our WR's are why the Shakir TD attempt failed in 2023 or why we didn't convert a first on our final series in 2024 isn't accurate to those respective plays.
If someone wants to make a case an upgrade in the WR room helps Josh score more points in a game we lost by 3, then fair case to present. But the WR's are not the reason we didn't convert these plays, they were wide open in each instance and things that happened on the OL or with Allen (including getting his pass batted at LOS) are why we didn't convert. We failed to get the ball to the wide open guys on the field to even give the WR's to make the play. WRs can’t catch balls not thrown to them, dont reach them, or that get deflected at the LOS.
3 hours ago, Simon said:They missed an opportunity on 2nd down by 12".
The season ended on the following drive because their injury-ravaged defense couldn't get a stop.
Come on...lol...we gave them the ball back while we were still losing the game with them needing 1 first down to end it
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33 minutes ago, Simon said:
I want my QB with his eyes down the field, not watching the pass rush.
And it’s unfortunately why the play failed and our season ultimately ended on that drive.-
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4 hours ago, Simon said:
If you want to suggest he made a mistake by holding the ball waiting for the hole shot to Shakir to come open instead of coming down to Diggs, there is indeed a debate to be had there.
But Josh Allen has spent his entire career learning that his backside is rock solid and playing accordingly.
Nobody should give him an ounce of grief for trusting Dawkins enough to keep his eyes downfield instead of resetting.
No disrespect my friend, but if you truly believe this then that in itself would be a complete and total failure by Allen on that fact alone. For the record, I don't think Allen thought that at all, but if he did then that is without question a critical failure by him.
You are stating that Allen has no responsibility to check the pressure coming from what is probably the best and most clutch game wrecker in the league...And on a play where Allen knows:
- That is Chris Jones on the other side - again one of the best game wreckers of Allens era (and maybe the most clutch in big moments)
- Its one on one as he isn't being doubled
- We are taking a deep shot and by default Allen has to hold the ball a little longer
- We either score on this drive or KC ends our season again
Sorry...what you just wrote here just doesn't make sense IMHO, nor is it something I suspect a coach would agree with, nor do I think Allen would. And as much as I love Dion, he isn't better than Chris Jones and isn't so good you can just completely ignore Chris Jones in a game on the line moment as a QB.
And quite honestly, our lack of handling the defensive pressure is what ended our last 2 seasons.
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On 6/7/2025 at 2:23 PM, Einstein said:
I refuse to entertain your trolling. You know what I and others are saying and you are purposefully attempting to twist it. You read what Simon said. You also read what I have said (unless your responding without actually reading which is worse). Yet instead of responding to what we write, you simply regurgitate the same point without any additional nuance or clarification. I don't know why you are acting like this, because in general you haven't done this. But today, you are trolling for some reason. Its bad enough when our own fans do it, but downright miserable when a Chiefs fan does it. Its not interesting and I can only assume that if you keep it up, sooner or later, you will be tossed.
No disrespect - but - He isn't trolling, you are just not correct in absolving Allen from any responsibility.
You have made several incorrect statements in all your posts now.
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You incorrectly attributed blame to Shakir not getting to his spot fast enough making Allen hold the ball longer, which the film shows is 100% wrong. Shakir is a 4.45 WR with a free release in a 20 yard straight line sprint before he even encounters a defender and where the ball was already in the air before any defender even was near his route. He has literally ZERO impact on this play not succeeding.
- Futhermore, Shakir makes Reid bite on a move and ends up wide open for the would be TD exactly where the ball was headed had Allen not been hit.
- You have incorrectly described the rush from the D to be different than it was
- You seem to refuse to acknowledge the massive amount of time and space Allen had in the pocket outside the one exact spot he stood like a statue in.
- You dont want to seem to acknowledge that Allen bounced in place multiple times, even pump faked, before making the throw which on any one of those he could have bounced even a half step back or to the right and made the same throw, except this time clean, to Shakir.
- And you have refused to even accept that any OTHER result would have been acceptable such as sliding to the right and throwing to Diggs instead for an easy first down or even running to the right and either getting the first or making the 3rd down attempt shorter/easier.
This obsession people have to accuse people of "trolling" just because they don't agree is over the top around here. Don't get me wrong, plenty of people do troll, but just because he doesn't agree with you on this play doesn't make him a troll.
Dion lost a rep to one of the best pass rushers and clutch defenders of his era in Jones was the primary cause of the play. BUT - Allen didn't see/recognize that Dion was getting dominated and stood in place like a statue despite the time to make even a subtle adjustment to get a clean pass off to Shakir or simply make a different play if it wasn't there. He also shares some responsibility in the result of that play.
Is attempting to hit a wide open Shakir for a TD a mistake? No. But it also doesn't mean its the ONLY choice either, and a case can be made it still leaves too much time on the clock for KC who always dog walks us with the game on the line.
But IT IS absolutely a mistake if you can't actually complete the play due to pressure. So if he wasn't going to be able to avoid the pressure, then the correct decision then becomes move right and either hit Diggs for the sure first down or keep running if the lanes are there for either the first or a shorter 3rd down attempt. But like I said, the space and time were there for Allen to make a subtle adjustment to get that pass off clean, he just failed to recognize he needed to and the tape confirms that.
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You incorrectly attributed blame to Shakir not getting to his spot fast enough making Allen hold the ball longer, which the film shows is 100% wrong. Shakir is a 4.45 WR with a free release in a 20 yard straight line sprint before he even encounters a defender and where the ball was already in the air before any defender even was near his route. He has literally ZERO impact on this play not succeeding.
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On 6/7/2025 at 11:48 AM, Einstein said:
Yes this is the same “he should have done something else” argument that has been refuted a thousand times. He did have room to scramble right.
But this, as has been said before, is 1000% the wrong move. You take the TD. Every. Single. Time.
You don’t take a 7 yard scramble to the right over a TD. The next play could be a fumble, INT, fluke snap, whatever. You take the TD 100 times out of 100.
Bending and twisting every facet of this play to excuse Dawkins getting manhandled is a joke.
This is absolute nonsense. Had Josh slid up into the pocket, Jones sacks him. Period. End of story. Literally zero question. You *NEVER* slide up into a bull rush. That is QB-ing 101.
Chris Jones would have LOVED for Allen to slide up into that pocket.
First off no one’s saying the throw to Shakir was wrong. Second, you chimed in on a post I made correcting someone else (and eventually you too) that Shakir had some fault he made in the play, which he very clearly did not. Ball was in the air before Shakir was ever even near a defender.
Allen getting his foot stepped on is the reason it didn’t work. And that’s because Dion lost a rep to one of the best DE’s in football.
BUT - Allen had space and room to do something about it too and didn’t. It’s right there on tape. So he has some responsibility in the result too even though the bulk of the impact came from Dion losing a rep to another elite player.
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1 hour ago, Einstein said:
Only about 50 times since it has happened form every angle available.
Now you're moving the goalposts into an entirely different argument. Another losing one mind you, but the more popular one of "he should have thrown to Diggs".
Allen 1000% made the right decision to throw to Shakir. He knew Shakir would be open for the TD and he went for it. He made the right decision and threw the right pass. You never pass up a TD because you don't know what will happen the next play or any play after that. Fumbles, flukes, etc. You take the TD.
No it was 100% on Dion. Allen holds zero blame.
Your original suggestion of Allen moving up into the pocket would have led to a guaranteed sack and is something you *never* do against a bull-rush. And shifting the line against a 4 man uniform front with a defender motioning a potential blitz on the opposite makes me question your understanding of the game.
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1 minute ago, Einstein said:
What in the world!? You wanted Allen to slide protection against a 4 man rush and a uniform defensive front with a blitzer threatening on the opposite side!? And you wanted Allen to step up into the pocket, which would have hastened him being hit by Jones? QB's step up in the pocket to avoid pass rushers coming on the backside. Not pass rushers bull rushing. If Allen steps up, Jones swims inside and blasts Allen into the turf
There is one person to blame on that play and his name rhymes with Peion Pawkins. Maybe an honorable mention to Shakir route running taking a tad longer than it should have.You clearly did not watch the clip I just posted. If you don't think Allen has opportunity to get a clean pass off he sees/feels how deep the pressure is from Dion then I don't know what to tell you. Allen had a ton of space to make a cleaner throw or buy time to find a different throw rather than stand there immobile and get stepped on. It's on both Dion and Allen.
And once again, Shakir is running free in full sprint PRIOR to Allens throw. Nothing about what Shakir did prior to Allen making the pass slowed Allens throw down. If you simply watch the clips you can see this clear as day.
Dion lost his rep...Allen stood still in the pocket...and the result was getting stepped on and short arming a game winning TD pass to a wide open WR in the endzone.
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13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Okay there isn't the contact that there was in my memory but he doesn't clear from Justin Reid quickly enough. He just wasn't precise enough in his cut. He is late to the spot.
Again, no disrepsect, but that is still not accurate, you said Shakir got held up and it made Allen hold the ball a second too long. But Allen throws the pass before Shakir even encounter Reid or makes his cut. So again, no disrespect, but what you said is just not what happened. And the result was Shakir was right where the ball was headed and open in the endzone for the TD catch had it not been short armed because Dion lost his rep against Jones and Allen failed to see/feel the pressure to slide and make a clean slow.
Shakir made a move on Reid, won his rep and cut on Reid, and was wide open for the go ahead and possible game winning TD. The entire failure of the play was on Dion and Allen, Shakir did his job on this play and that is a route you will take from your WR's 10 out 10 times.
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20 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
It was also Shakir. He gets held up in coverage and was late to the spot which makes Josh hold the ball a split second longer.
No disrespect, but for this play, this is not remotely accurate, Shakir had not even encountered a defender before Allen made the throw.
Shakir had a free release from 26 yard line and didn't encounter a defender until the 6 yard line when the ball was already in the air. Nothing at any point slowed Shakir or his route down prior to Allen putting the ball in the air..and had Allen not been stepped on the balls path was on the exact trajectory to hit Shakir exactly where he was open in the end zone. Nothing Shakir did or didn't do impacted how long Allen had to hold the ball.
This play failed Jones won the rep vs Dion combined with Allen not recognizing it and sliding or stepping up to avoid and get a clean throw off. Shakir did his job.
Play starts at 7:45 and then you can see the angle from behind Allen at 8:04.
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6 hours ago, BigDingus said:
THANK YOU.
I don't care what position you play, if you are a bigger part of your team's success & have more impact on the field, you should be paid accordingly.
As much as people like Groot, I cannot in good conscience say he did more than James Cook... yet we were paying him $13 million last year, right around what Cook wants now, then extended him to $20 million a year.
And which side of the ball has everyone complained about not showing up in the playoffs last year? Oh right, the side we rewarded with extensions & bigger contracts.
But the side that put up the most points in franchise history, fortified by a great run game for the first time in Allen's career, and the player who everyone said should've gotten the ball more in the KC playoff game... that's the guy who we shouldn't pay simply because he's a RB?
Makes no sense.
Then who plays DE? What DE are you getting off the street for less that can be at least at Groots level? Much easier and cheaper to find a RB than it is DE's. This isnt about who to pay...its about who is playing in their spot if you don't pay them and what does that cost and what is the return on the investment.
Not paying Groot and replacing him with a cheap FA is going to hurt more than not paying Cook and letting Ray Davis and Ty fill the duties.
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This article/thread is a bit misleading as it isn't about anything he has been doing thus far. Its just an article about his potential as an UDFA based on his college history and player profile.
By default, he has a shot as safety isn't really set yet in terms of the depth, but there are some guys ahead of him that they either like or paid like they feel will contribute. So I would say its a bit of an uphill battle still, but not unsurmountable if he shows out in camp.
BUT - Until I start seeing his name come up as someone impressing or standing out, he will remain a long shot though because there are guys well ahead of him going into camp. If he does start to impress, then sure, there is room in the competition for him to make a case to make the roster, especially if he is also making an impression on ST.
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18 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:
You should worry about the receipts you leave around first.
Remember when you started that thread guaranteeing the Bills would reach the AFCCG late in the 2023 season?
Or when you started your Shakir thread and included things like extrapolating his 2023 15.7 yards per catch number as if there were any chance he was going to replicate that from the slot with a greater target share in 2024. He predictably dropped to just 10.8 yards per catch.
I know that when pressed by yours truly, you put in the fine print later that a mere 900 yard season would justify your hyperbole about how great he was going to be but that's just how you roll.
Aim high, shoot low and claim a bullseye.
Except this isn't what I exactly said now is it (and you know that). Its pretty funny you want to call receipts about 2 threads I was pretty spot on in just about everything I said, and by most peoples accounts. Ive been wrong on things, as has everyone here, just funny you pick 2 things where if you read the threads I was pretty spot on.
It’s cute though that you are playing your usual games and twisting context to paint a different narratives which is your calling card. You on the other hand did spend plenty of time arguing Shakir can't catch and a lot of other nonsense your selective memory likes to gloss over.
18 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:Last offseason in the "quietly better" thread those of us who expressed concern about the quality of the WR corps were near universal in expecting the Bills offense to be good in 2023.
As people like @Kirby Jackson and myself said numerous times that they should still be a top 5 offense regardless. Because Josh Allen is great and they could always generate points in the regular season if they are willing to let the still prime athletic age Allen run 100+ times per year. It was proven by the results of 2023 after Brady took over.
The question is do they have the playmakers in the passing game to win big road games and playoff games?
Just like the issue wasn't whether the Bills Leslie Frazier top ranked and second ranked 2020-2021 defense's were good enough in the regular season.
The question was did they have enough playmakers(specifically pass rushers) to win in the postseason.
The people who got to flash the receipts last year were those of us who knew the WR corps wasn't going to be good enough against top competition and that Beane would be forced to make a trade to try to remedy it.
Shocker that again this is not exactly what you were really saying now is it. This is what you want people to believe you were saying when in reality you were slamming the offense, defending Dorsey after he was fired, even arguing Dorsey over Brady despite the results.
And while there were people who thought some of these things here, most were negative or all doom and gloom about the offense going into last season. And as I said then, before a down of football was even played, that the predictable "spin" once the offense proved to be great still was going to be the classic "Its all Allen" or even give all the credit to Brady...which is verbatim what happened.
However, myself and many others had said all offseason we were still going to be a top 5 offense, had potential to be the best offense of Allens career, addition by subtraction, and might be Allens best season and chance at MVP before a down of football was even played.
But keep on doing what you do where you blur reality and truths to desperately try to never be wrong when a LOT of what you said the past 2 years are things you certainly don't want "receipts" called on.
But you do you boo
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Dont let Henry run 80 yard TD's would be a nice start
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46 minutes ago, Malazan said:
Are there any other caveats you'd like to add? If Diggs is cut, it's because he can't play and they will not cut him until they know that which won't be soon. As I said, it will not happen until he "sees the field" which is just as true now as it was prior to the video being released.
All good man, if you want to believe that so be it. I mean I have no dog in this race or crystal ball and I am not here to say he is for sure getting released. I am just sharing that NE is has been considering it, and its not about whether he can play football still or not. And as I said, it stems beyond just the video. We will see what happens...this is more of a near term consideration, so if he makes it to camp I am guessing he is likely safe barring doing something else stupid or just falling off a cliff on the field.
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2 hours ago, Malazan said:
This is made up BS to capitalize on the attention and get views. There is zero chance he gets released before he sees the field.
Actually it’s not. No disrespect…but…You just stating your opinion doesn’t make it BS.
I’m not claiming he is getting released…but I’ve also heard there is real substance to this from people I trust.
Doesn’t mean it’s imminent, but the Pats are looking at how to get back some of the guaranteed money if they do. There are already things not meshing well with the coaching staff that go beyond the boat and Vrabel isn’t thrilled with the situation right now. And Vrabel wields a big stick there right now. Can it be salvaged still…sure…but to outright say it’s BS and has no chance of happening is not accurate.
If I was forced to choose between whether he is on the team week 1 or not, I would lean towards he probably is. But I also wouldn’t be confident enough in that to place a wager on it either and just rule out a release.
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There is buzz the Pats might release Diggs, not just over the boat incident either…including things like questioning if he’s really all in there in NE.
He better find a way to convince people in NE he is worth keeping around and fast because there is no way at 31, coming off an ACL, and then being released (if he is) that he will get anything close to what NE gave him which honestly was already a legit shock.
He gets released then he better be ready to play on a cheap 1 year deal because that’s all he will get, if even that.
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32 minutes ago, chris heff said:
If you do meet him will you tell him that I love him?
Absolutely.
My wife asked me “How willyou hide your b*ner if we meet Josh?”
And I said “Who said anything about hiding it?”
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Keon Coleman success by route - Not pretty
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I agree, but that isn't what we have gotten 100 threads on all offseason, its been specifically on the WR room, specifically blaming WR's for the 2023 and 2024 endings when it was not at all related to the WR's those final 2 series.
One thing for sure, I agree, I am over it too, the conversation in general has been beaten to death.
But...the bolded here..no disrespect, but this is just a silly statement that is a reflection of your personal disappointment and in no way what so ever an accurate reflection of how Beane, the team, the coaches think and feel about the offense. We just averaged over 30 in the reg season and 29 in the post season and they feel the offense has the potential to be as good or better between the moves they made and the expectations they have of Kincaid and Coleman to better too this year between being healthy and more experienced.
Whether they are right or not will be proven on the field of course, but to suggest they "want" a lower scoring middling offense like KC is just a wild thing to say and just isn't at all true.