Alphadawg7
-
Posts
21,227 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Gallery
Profiles
Forums
Events
Posts posted by Alphadawg7
-
-
4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
It is a long developed history going back to Carolina though that they like long arms. Again Beane's drafting preferences are very Carolina. 34 inch plus arms are definitely a preferred trait for their edge guys.
Not saying they just pick guys on arm length but it IS a singificant factor in the edge guys they like IMO.
I really hope they don't draft Kneeland. I didn't like the Basham pick and I'd like this even less. But I do think they likely think he is an option at #60.
I don’t disagree he is in play at 60, he’s a round 2 or 3 guy this year. But there is absolutely no way Beane takes him at 28. I guess nothing is impossible, but I’d be stunned and may break my TV if that happened.
He is a 4th round prospect IMHO who’s gonna go earlier because there are not a lot of options at EDGE this year.
-
11 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:
I posted the other notable mocks in the last thread. They're growing considerably the last few weeks. I don't think I'm overthinking both AJE and Groot. They were both top 3 in arm length and wing span for the draft classes they belong to. Unless you think those weren't qualities we pursue and that was just random?
I think it was coincidence like I said. AJE was BPA at a clear position of need, I don’t think they targeted him on just his arms, everyone knew he was our pick when we were on the clock there. -
1 hour ago, Billzgobowlin said:
For some reason I think Jalen McMillan will be a pick and I find it highly unlikely they draft a WR at 28 unless it is Brian Thomas Jr. otherwise they draft BPA or trade back. I don't think Beane will reach just because the sportscasters think he needs a receiver
I personally think second round is too high for him. He would be an option in third or fourth imo
We don’t have a 3rd and he won’t last to 4th IMHO -
10 minutes ago, Bangarang said:
Tez Walker getting too much attention for my liking
3 minutes ago, somnus00 said:Man, they're really interested in 'Tez Walker.
I think Tez is very much in play at 60 for them if they elect to go another position in the first. Not saying they should or shouldn't be, just based on how much interest they have invested in him as most the other WR's they spent time with are either expected to be gone by 60 or go much later than 60.
-
1
-
1
-
-
Broncos just trading for Zack Wilson today for 6th and 7th round picks adds an interesting wrinkle here that might impact both picks 12 and 13.
I won't rule Nix out totally at 12, but I could easily see the Broncos either taking BPA at 12 or even trading back now to try and set themselves up next year for a QB. And if they still want Nix, there is a good chance he would still be there when they picked after trading back.
If I find time to do a v3.0, this will be interesting to think about and play out a little bit. Question is, who is on the board at 12 that a team is going to move up to get and what would that compensation be? Is there a trade there that makes sense on both sides is the question that will be fun to explore.
-
Hmmmmm...this is interesting. There is buzz the Broncos like Bo Nix, but by no means were they a lock to take him at 12. I wonder if they just take the BPA at 12 or trade back to get more draft capital that they need. And if they still wanted Nix after trading back he will very likely still be there as I think they are the biggest threat to take him round 1.
-
1
-
-
4 minutes ago, Virgil said:
Bills Top 30 Visits:
DE Marshawn Kneeland, Western Michigan - ESPN Grade 86, 6th DE
DT Khristian Boyd, Northern Iowa - ESPN Grade 39, 26th DT
WR Devontez Walker, UNC (***) - ESPN Grade 73, 17th WR
RB Trey Benson, Florida St - ESPN Grade 82, 2nd RB
OT Jordan Morgan, Arizona - ESPN Grade 86, 8th OT
WR Ryan Flournoy, Missouri St - ESPN Grade 34, 38th WR
WR Xavier Worthy, Texas (**) - ESPN Grade 87, 8th WR
DB Andru Phillips, Kentucky - ESPN Grade 68, 13th DB
DE Laiatu Latu, UCLA - ESPN Grade 92, 2nd DE
WR Keon Coleman, Florida St (**) - ESPN Grade 87, 9th WR
DB Qwan'tez Stiggers, Toronto Argonauts - Not graded
DT Mason Smith, LSU - ESPN Grade 81, 7th DT
DB Cooper DeJean, Iowa (**) - ESPN Grade 90, 3rd DB
DT Ruke Orhorhoro, Clemson - ESPN Grade 73, 10th DT
RB Audric Estime, Notre Dame (**) - ESPN 59, 10th RB
Pro Days/Workouts/Private Meetings:
WR Troy Franklin, Oregon (**) - ESPN Grade 83, 11th WR
Edge Adisa Isaac, Penn St - ESPN Grade 81, 12th Edge
WR Devontez Walker, UNC (***) - ESPN Grade 73, 17th WR
S Kitan Oladapo, Oregon St - ESPN Grade 72, 5th S
DB MJ Devonshire, Pittsburgh - ESPN Grade 49, 31st DB
WR Jalen McMillan, Washington (**) - ESPN Grade 77, 14th WR
LB Jamal Hill, Oregon - Not graded
Combine Formal Interviews:
DT Braden Fiske, Florida St - ESPN Grade 86, 3rd DT
WR Devontez Walker, UNC (***) - ESPN Grade 73, 17th WR
WR Brian Thomas, LSU - ESPN Grade 90, 4th WR
WR Xavier Worthy, Texas (**) - ESPN Grade 87, 8th WR
OT Patrick Paul, Houston - ESPN Grade 78, 12th OT
WR Keon Coleman, Florida St (**) - ESPN Grade 87, 9th WR
DT Bryon Murphy, Texas - ESPN Grade 91, 1st DT
WR Adonai Mitchell, Texas - ESPN Grade 89, 5th WR
S Calen Bullock, USC - ESPN Grade 72, 6th S
WR Troy Franklin, Oregon (**) - ESPN Grade 83, 11th WR
WR Xavier Legette, South Carolina - ESPN Grade 89, 6th WR
S Tyler Nubin, Minnesota - ESPN Grade 83, 2nd S
S Javon Bullard, Georgia - ESPN Grade 83, 1st S
S Kamren Kinchens, Miami - ESPN Grade 69, 8th S
WR Jalen McMillan, Washington (**) - ESPN Grade 77, 14th WR
WR Roman Wilson, Michigan - ESPN Grade 79, 12th WR
RB Braelon Allen, Wisconsin - ESPN Grade 62, 7th RB
RB Audric Estime, Notre Dame (**) - ESPN 59, 10th RB
RB Frank Gore Jr, SMU - ESPN Grade 50, 19th RB
DE Jalyx Hunt, Houston - Not graded
DB Cooper DeJean, Iowa (**) - ESPN Grade 90, 3rd DB
C Graham Barton, Duke - ESPN Grade 91, 1st C
OT Kiran Amegadjie, Yale - ESPN Grade OT, 14th OT
All-Star Circuit:
G Garrett Greenfield, South Dakota St, ESPN Grade 43, 18th G
Based on positions met with, and volume of meets, the Bills are really doing their due diligence at S, DT, WR, and RB. We met with all the top WR's, minus the top 3. We met with the best at their positions for S, DT, C. Based on the visits, I think the Bills are fully prepared to go WR at 28, but they are also willing to trade back or take BPA. IF the board falls a certain way, I could see us going C, DT, DB in the 1st, and then trying to trade up in the 2nd.
Regardless, it looks like the Bills have really done their homework for all scenarios at 28, and have their later round, UFA research as well
One thing I will add is don't take this list as gospel. For example, Ladd McConkey has publicly stated he has met with the Bills several times and isn't on these lists online. So someone like BTJ only shows up once compared to the other WR's, but he very well could have had other meetings still.
-
2
-
1
-
-
-
41 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:
I thought the Bills would consider him which started a string of hate which picked up well in this thread. It's not uncommon for him to be mocked in the late first at this point. As I said in my other post he has physical traits in his arm length and wingspan that we clearly covet given our selection of AJ and Groot. It just wouldn't shock me if they feel he has a first round grade. Hoping we don't see this as well and I'm a WMU grad.
I think you are over thinking AJE to be honest. DE was a major need and he was the top DE in a weak draft to find edge help. So weak, the top guy fell to us in the 2nd and he was the clear BPA and a pretty obvious choice for the Bills, so I think the arm connection here with Groot is more coincidence than a trait they covet to the point they would reach for a day 3 prospect at pick 28.
And no disrespect, but I have to disagree about it being "not uncommon" to be mocked in the first. I have a hard time believing there are a lot of other mocks out there where he goes in the first given he is more often seen as a day 3 pick with potential to maybe go day 2. Edge does fall off early, so I can see him maybe getting into the 2nd round for teams in dire need of help there. But if I was to guess today, I think he more likely goes in the 3rd.
I admit, anything is possible, so won't say never...but I would honestly be stunned to see him go in the first as he would be a massive reach and no where near BPA at any pick in the first IMHO.
12 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:There apparently is a lot of buzz on Kneeland being a borderline late 1st early 2nd player among league guys. I don’t see it - wouldn’t even use pick 60 on him. It’s pure projection of his size and athleticism, apparently, because he didn’t exactly dominate the MAC.
I can see the 2nd, edge drops off early, so a team desperate for help might reach. But at 28 and in this Mock, there are higher graded Edge guys still available before he has Kneeland go.
But my comment on how bad this mock draft is was directed at the overall draft. I just felt like its a crazy mock top to bottom and I think its one of the worse ones I have seen overall.
-
4 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
OMG I would love to see the board explode if this went down.
https://www.nfl.com/news/seven-round-2024-nfl-mock-draft-round-4
Small school edge in round 1 who had 4.5 sacks in the MAC, while Cinci and KC both add WRs, Miami adds an OT, and Colts add a generational TE.
Blocking WR and Robert Woods clone in round 2 and passing on Franklin
Then DT and S
No trades up or down
Standing pat and taking another smurf blocking WR and 3 defenders with the top four picks.... oh this place would melt down
This is maybe the worst and least informed mock draft I can remember to have ever read in any year. I feel like this guy stole time from my life I can't get back.
-
1
-
1
-
-
22 hours ago, Buffalo Dude said:
Wondering what your dream job with the Bills would be?
Getting to be in the draft room building the best team possible?
Using your knowledge of X’s and O’s to coach?
Or getting to be on the field as a player?
Front Office. Playing is so much wear and tear on the body, shorter career potential. Coaching is hard on a family, not only are you on the road a lot but the hours are brutal. You would miss so much of your kids life.
As a GM, I get to put my stamp on the team and have a healthier and better family life. Thats a win in my book. There are times of the year where hours are long for GM's, but no where near the degree it is for coaches.
-
1 hour ago, HappyDays said:
The thing that gets NFL teams excited about McCarthy is a lot of those passes came in high leverage situations. 3rd and long gotta have it moments, etc. There is a projection there for sure but 3rd down success rate is something NFL scouts and executives value much more than the general public, because that's what wins championships.
True, plus McCarthy has also reportedly been crushing his interviews and meetings too. Which can really help a team get more comfortable and start to move a guy up their boards.
IMHO I think he will be either a Viking or Giant as I think Arizona is gonna most likely trading back. Vikings offer will be bigger but AZ will fall out of range for a big 3 WR. So they would need to then trade back up, and they got plenty of ammunition to do that even before the trade back, and have done that before. Or if the Giants can make the offer good enough they can just move back to 6 and not have to give up assets to move back up and still get one of the big 3 WR's.
I will be a bit surprised if Arizona doesn't trade back to be honest, it just makes too much sense for them and there are 4 very QB needy teams between them and pick 13.
-
1
-
-
1 hour ago, Sweats said:
This is a good write up and as much as i'd like to nit-pick or find something to argue about, i really can't......you've certainly done your homework.
Good job.
Thanks!
I tried to make picks based on research on each team best I could, but we all know come draft day things have many ways to play out. It was fun and interesting to put together and I spent as much time diving in on this because this draft is one of the more exciting ones I have seen in a while, for me at least. So many places it can completely change directions starting at pick 2 on the decision between Maye or Daniels.
The first 2 rounds are loaded with talent IMHO at WR, CB, OT, and IOL which are all very deep there. And so many teams are needy at all those spots making it tough to really figure out which position they will lean or even which prospect at that position. The fact there are 7 teams who really need a QB and there are 6 potential guys that could go round 1 also makes it very interesting.
Either way, it was fun and glad you enjoyed it
-
1
-
-
2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:
My only nitpick is, if the board does fall like this, I think the Chiefs end up with Franklin or McConky over Polk.
Out of those 3, I'd be happiest if the Chiefs went with Polk.
All good and for sure, I think there are multiple players Chiefs go with at 32, not just at WR either. So totally get your viewpoint there. There are other WR's, and guys on the DL, OL, and Corners that could go in that spot.
But the most plugged in person I know with real insider NFL info has been consistently saying that one of the biggest draft risers he keeps hearing teams talking about is Polk. And he also said that both Ravens and Chiefs are really high on him. And honestly, as someone also high on Polk, both Ravens and Chiefs are great fits for him and their offenses where they need a sure handed, physical, big catch radius guy...and the fact he is the best blocking WR in the draft is a big plus for Ravens (who run a lot) and Chiefs (who lead the NFL in the Mahomes era on passes at or behind the LOS and run a big YAC style of offense).
So I went with it, but by no means do I think its a sure thing either. I do think Polk is going to go in the top half of the 2nd though if he doesn't sneak in at the end of round 1.
And if Chiefs don't go WR at 32, I would keep an eye on both Washington Husky WR's to Chiefs in 2nd, if either of them make it to them (I doubt Polk does, and Jalen might not either). Jalen McMillan is also rising up draft boards from what I hear, and I know he has also met with the Chiefs and he would be a good fit for them as well and I think could be in play for them depending on what they do at 32 and who is there when they are on the clock in the 2nd.
But there is a good chance neither makes it to the Chiefs in the 2nd as I think everyone expects a big WR run at the top of that 2nd round and we could see a record number of WR's go in the first 2 rounds because of it (current record is 13 which was the year we traded for Diggs).
-
2
-
-
1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said:
I think Bowers is a steal for anybody outside the top 5 and it wouldn’t surprise me if he goes before at least 1 of the big 3 WR’s
I think Bowers only real shot at single digits is bears at 9 or someone trading up to get him. Giants, Titans, and Atlanta at 6, 7, and 8 aren't going to take a TE. Giants are going QB or one of the big 3 WR's, Titans are a near lock to take Alt at OT, and Atlanta doesn't need a TE with Kyle Pitts there to work with Cousins and more likely to address their very needs defensive front 7.
Bears though are interesting...ive mentioned already it wouldn't shock me to see them take Bowers. WR would be a luxury pick with DJ Moore there as a legit WR1 long term and Keenan Allen as a short term bridge opposite of him. TE can be a young QB's best friend, so wouldn't surprise me at to take Bowers or OL instead of WR. Also, with only 4 picks (although a good 4 picks) a trade back isn't out of the question and then who knows who that team is targeting. They could be trying to get ahead of Jets for Bowers.
But more than likely I think its most likely Bowers goes somewhere from 10 or later personally.
-
Miami, Dallas, Chiefs
-
1
-
-
3 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
Well done. Excellent analysis.
One question, do you think McCarthy is a top 5 QB talent? Or are you just saying he will get picked there as an extreme over reach. This guy averaged 22 passes pee game in college. He is a game manager with good accuracy. Ok but not elite size. Ok but not very good speed. Decent arm.
Just curious if you think he is a top 5 talent?
No, he's definitely not a top 5 prospect in this draft, but because he is a QB he has a good shot at going 4th or 5th if either AZ or Chargers get the right offer. Now, in NE surprises and either trades out of 3 to a team wanting a WR ir they themselves surprise and just take a WR at 3 instead of a QB then JJ will not go in top 5.But if the first 3 players taken are QBs I think there’s a decent chance someone is gonna try and move up and get him with 4 more very QB needy teams between picks 4 and 13.
-
2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:
My only nitpick is, if the board does fall like this, I think the Chiefs end up with Franklin or McConky over Polk.
Out of those 3, I'd be happiest if the Chiefs went with Polk.
That's why if I'm the Giants, I'm looking to trade out of that spot and pick up an extra 1st for next year.
They're stuck with Jones this year no matter what. Trade down, use picks to build the roster around the QB. Then use that extra 1st to maneuver around next year to get a QB.
There are just soooo many teams taking QBs this year, and the pool is not nearly as deep as those folks are hoping.
Yeah I would consider that too if I was the Giants. But I mocked them moving up as there seems to be genuine interest. But they could also be trying to leverage that interest to get Vikings, Broncos, or Raiders to bite and give up multiple firsts to swap spots with them.
My main issue with the concept of the Giants trading back is that I have a hard time seeing them passing on one of the big 3 WRs if they don’t go QB. Which is why I feel like the interest in JJ has at least some merit.
But this is why this may be my favorite draft in years, so many directions I can see it going, especially in the top 5 that can really alter things quite a bit after. There are really no locks after pick 1 on who is going where other than maybe Joe Alt to Titans being close tone as I can’t see the board playing out in a way where they don’t take Alt.
-
1
-
-
10 minutes ago, Einstein said:
The number of holes punched into drywall throughout western new york if Beane did this…
Why, many people want us to trade up for Thomas? Personally, I don't want us to if it costs us a first, nor do I think Beane will if does either. Which is why I didn't have us taking him there.
-
2 hours ago, MasterStrategist said:
My Pitt media insider is saying Mims or potential trade back for Steelers. He's not perfect, but right more often than not. JPJ if trade back.
He also mentioned Rd2 focus for Steelers is WR, hearing Roman Wilson or Pearsall.
Thanks that is good to know. I thought of Mims there too as I saw some buzz on him, I just leaned JPJ because I thought they needed a center more and he seemed like a Steelers type of player. But if I do a v3.0 I will maybe look at putting Mims in there as I was kind of back and forth on a few spots for him on where he might go.
The place I wanted to mock Mims too was Dallas but I just have a feeling they are going to go Worthy as they need to add some firepower to that offense and Worthy getting to stay in Texas and playing in a dome opposite Lamb just feels like a fit.
-
1
-
-
2 hours ago, LeGOATski said:
Yeah, that's too crazy to me. This QB class isn't great enough for that. Are there really that many teams who are so desperate? Most of these guys are gonna bust...hard. IMO Daniels shouldn't even be a first rounder. But that's probably just my ASU fan bias coming out.
Thats the sad part...there are that many teams. Chicago, Washington, and Patriots are the first 3 picks and all badly need a QB. Giants seem to be ready for a change over Daniel Jones as they have been researching the QB's hard. Vikings at 11 only have Sam Darnold and need one. Broncos at 12 badly need one. And Raiders do as well at 13. That is 7 very QB needy teams in the first 13 picks.
So not a lock that 6 go, but 4 for sure are but 5 or 6 is quite possible.
-
2
-
-
1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:
I do think Chicago passing on Nabers is more believable than them passing on Odunze, just based on who they already have. But I don't see the Colts as a trade up team personally.
EDIT: the other thing I always say at this time of year and will remind myself before I do my final mock on Thursday morning is "believe what you hear in Jan and Feb, discount what you here in March and April."
I had some trouble with the Bears pick to be honest. I had one person who has some insider info across the NFL tell me that there is a big focus on the OL, especially with pressure to be sure Caleb can be the guy after moving Fields which wasn't that popular in the locker room. Then Caleb was on social referencing the importance of the OL too the other day. And WR feels like a luxury pick with DJ Moore there long term and Allen there at least short term. They can find a guy to replace Allen potentially later as well especially if they add more picks on a trade back.
The Colts were the only ones within a reasonable distance to the Bears that made sense to me to go get Nabers. And when I was watching Pat Mcafee show he was talking about how there is some growing belief the Colts are feeling pressure to get more explosive with what Houston is doing and need to make a splash move. With him being a former Colt, that seemed to make some sense. And with that pick, Bears are still in a spot to get a premiere prospect on the OL. So I went ahead and pulled the trigger as I do think the Bears would first try and trade back if they are gonna go OL.
By no means do I think this is a sure thing, but hey that is the fun of the mocks, so many ways things can go down
2 minutes ago, LEBills said:
If Arizona moves back and misses out on MHJ for just a third and a fourth, all 3 fans will get into a Fiat Pop and run Gannon and Co out of town imo. They may move back, but I think it would have to be a much bigger haul.I agree it will be likely for more, moves to go up and get QB's come with a premium. But because I am only mocking round 1, I just stuck with what was more balanced to the points of the picks. How much they get is gonna come down to how bad someone wants McCarthy and where they are moving up from.
42 minutes ago, Wizard said:Best part about Mock Drafts is no matter how much we get invested, how much we read, hear opinions, or follow mock drafts, we may get 4-5 players with the team and pick we thought they would go, no matter how hard we try in the first round to make predictions.
Yeah just a fun exercise...I do it because I love football, not just the Bills, so I enjoy doing a deep dive into the individual teams. Also finds it helps me come fantasy football draft season, like I better know the players and situations of each team to find value where others may miss.
-
1
-
-
14 minutes ago, Doc said:
It would be risky. I think Arizona did it because Murray was going to miss half the season, thus making it a wasted season, so why not trade down and stockpile picks. Detroit did it because they were targeting Gibbs with their 1st pick and figured no one would take him in the top-half of the 1st round (they were probably sweating-it-out when Atlanta took Robinson 8th overall). Meanwhile the Falcons are there at 8 to trade down for a team looking for a WR while Chicago would love to take one at 9 to pair with Williams.
I would agree if both teams didn't need WRs for their franchise QBs.
It will be interesting to see how it turns out. I don't think McCarthy will be any good, much less merit giving-up extra picks.
Which is why I think Vikings are not going to be the one to trade up with AZ because they reportedly want 3 first rounders...both Vikings firsts this year and their first next year. I just not sure Minny pulls that trigger. But Chargers may do it for less and take both Minny's first rounders to move back, which is why I think Giants may feel they need to make the move to get ahead of the Vikings (Or Broncos and Raiders).
AZ is in a great spot here. They already have 2 firsts and 3 thirds coming into the draft along with their high 2nd and 4th rounder. If they move back with Giants they would pick up another high 3rd round pick and another high 4th rounder...and because its for a QB, they might be able to squeeze them into giving up even more than that. AZ has a terrible roster and need help all over the place. And with the kind of ammo they could have after a trade back, they can really control this draft by not only using the abundance of picks they would have in the first 4 rounds, but also moving around the draft to get who they covet.
-
23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
I think Morgan to the Ravens is a very astute pick. If he is on the board he is their guy. Heard that from 1 person directly and 1 podcast. But Mims is either gone at #20 to the Steelers or #24 to Dallas. They both LOVE him. I think no way he makes it down that far.
Thanks and it’s what I’ve heard in regards to Ravens and Morgan as well.
I agree Mims could go 20 or 24 too, I had the hardest time placing him as he is in play in a few spots. I still think JPJ just feels like a Steelers guy though and a big need for them and Dallas badly needs to add some play making and speed too. So I have this feeling they will fall in love with Worthy opposite Lamb and look to address OL later. But would not surprise me at all if they end up going OL, and it’s what I would do if I was Dallas.
-
1
-
NFL draft rumors 2024
in The Stadium Wall
Posted · Edited by Alphadawg7
Welcome aboard
IMHO he has the highest floor outside the big 3 in the draft (followed by Polk in terms of high floor) and a safe bet to be a significant contributor year 1 IMHO.
I have never seen someone spew assets away the way you do. This trade should and probably would get Beane fired.