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On 6/7/2025 at 2:23 PM, Einstein said:
I refuse to entertain your trolling. You know what I and others are saying and you are purposefully attempting to twist it. You read what Simon said. You also read what I have said (unless your responding without actually reading which is worse). Yet instead of responding to what we write, you simply regurgitate the same point without any additional nuance or clarification. I don't know why you are acting like this, because in general you haven't done this. But today, you are trolling for some reason. Its bad enough when our own fans do it, but downright miserable when a Chiefs fan does it. Its not interesting and I can only assume that if you keep it up, sooner or later, you will be tossed.
No disrespect - but - He isn't trolling, you are just not correct in absolving Allen from any responsibility.
You have made several incorrect statements in all your posts now.
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You incorrectly attributed blame to Shakir not getting to his spot fast enough making Allen hold the ball longer, which the film shows is 100% wrong. Shakir is a 4.45 WR with a free release in a 20 yard straight line sprint before he even encounters a defender and where the ball was already in the air before any defender even was near his route. He has literally ZERO impact on this play not succeeding.
- Futhermore, Shakir makes Reid bite on a move and ends up wide open for the would be TD exactly where the ball was headed had Allen not been hit.
- You have incorrectly described the rush from the D to be different than it was
- You seem to refuse to acknowledge the massive amount of time and space Allen had in the pocket outside the one exact spot he stood like a statue in.
- You dont want to seem to acknowledge that Allen bounced in place multiple times, even pump faked, before making the throw which on any one of those he could have bounced even a half step back or to the right and made the same throw, except this time clean, to Shakir.
- And you have refused to even accept that any OTHER result would have been acceptable such as sliding to the right and throwing to Diggs instead for an easy first down or even running to the right and either getting the first or making the 3rd down attempt shorter/easier.
This obsession people have to accuse people of "trolling" just because they don't agree is over the top around here. Don't get me wrong, plenty of people do troll, but just because he doesn't agree with you on this play doesn't make him a troll.
Dion lost a rep to one of the best pass rushers and clutch defenders of his era in Jones was the primary cause of the play. BUT - Allen didn't see/recognize that Dion was getting dominated and stood in place like a statue despite the time to make even a subtle adjustment to get a clean pass off to Shakir or simply make a different play if it wasn't there. He also shares some responsibility in the result of that play.
Is attempting to hit a wide open Shakir for a TD a mistake? No. But it also doesn't mean its the ONLY choice either, and a case can be made it still leaves too much time on the clock for KC who always dog walks us with the game on the line.
But IT IS absolutely a mistake if you can't actually complete the play due to pressure. So if he wasn't going to be able to avoid the pressure, then the correct decision then becomes move right and either hit Diggs for the sure first down or keep running if the lanes are there for either the first or a shorter 3rd down attempt. But like I said, the space and time were there for Allen to make a subtle adjustment to get that pass off clean, he just failed to recognize he needed to and the tape confirms that.
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You incorrectly attributed blame to Shakir not getting to his spot fast enough making Allen hold the ball longer, which the film shows is 100% wrong. Shakir is a 4.45 WR with a free release in a 20 yard straight line sprint before he even encounters a defender and where the ball was already in the air before any defender even was near his route. He has literally ZERO impact on this play not succeeding.
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On 6/7/2025 at 11:48 AM, Einstein said:
Yes this is the same “he should have done something else” argument that has been refuted a thousand times. He did have room to scramble right.
But this, as has been said before, is 1000% the wrong move. You take the TD. Every. Single. Time.
You don’t take a 7 yard scramble to the right over a TD. The next play could be a fumble, INT, fluke snap, whatever. You take the TD 100 times out of 100.
Bending and twisting every facet of this play to excuse Dawkins getting manhandled is a joke.
This is absolute nonsense. Had Josh slid up into the pocket, Jones sacks him. Period. End of story. Literally zero question. You *NEVER* slide up into a bull rush. That is QB-ing 101.
Chris Jones would have LOVED for Allen to slide up into that pocket.
First off no one’s saying the throw to Shakir was wrong. Second, you chimed in on a post I made correcting someone else (and eventually you too) that Shakir had some fault he made in the play, which he very clearly did not. Ball was in the air before Shakir was ever even near a defender.
Allen getting his foot stepped on is the reason it didn’t work. And that’s because Dion lost a rep to one of the best DE’s in football.
BUT - Allen had space and room to do something about it too and didn’t. It’s right there on tape. So he has some responsibility in the result too even though the bulk of the impact came from Dion losing a rep to another elite player.
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1 hour ago, Einstein said:
Only about 50 times since it has happened form every angle available.
Now you're moving the goalposts into an entirely different argument. Another losing one mind you, but the more popular one of "he should have thrown to Diggs".
Allen 1000% made the right decision to throw to Shakir. He knew Shakir would be open for the TD and he went for it. He made the right decision and threw the right pass. You never pass up a TD because you don't know what will happen the next play or any play after that. Fumbles, flukes, etc. You take the TD.
No it was 100% on Dion. Allen holds zero blame.
Your original suggestion of Allen moving up into the pocket would have led to a guaranteed sack and is something you *never* do against a bull-rush. And shifting the line against a 4 man uniform front with a defender motioning a potential blitz on the opposite makes me question your understanding of the game.
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1 minute ago, Einstein said:
What in the world!? You wanted Allen to slide protection against a 4 man rush and a uniform defensive front with a blitzer threatening on the opposite side!? And you wanted Allen to step up into the pocket, which would have hastened him being hit by Jones? QB's step up in the pocket to avoid pass rushers coming on the backside. Not pass rushers bull rushing. If Allen steps up, Jones swims inside and blasts Allen into the turf
There is one person to blame on that play and his name rhymes with Peion Pawkins. Maybe an honorable mention to Shakir route running taking a tad longer than it should have.You clearly did not watch the clip I just posted. If you don't think Allen has opportunity to get a clean pass off he sees/feels how deep the pressure is from Dion then I don't know what to tell you. Allen had a ton of space to make a cleaner throw or buy time to find a different throw rather than stand there immobile and get stepped on. It's on both Dion and Allen.
And once again, Shakir is running free in full sprint PRIOR to Allens throw. Nothing about what Shakir did prior to Allen making the pass slowed Allens throw down. If you simply watch the clips you can see this clear as day.
Dion lost his rep...Allen stood still in the pocket...and the result was getting stepped on and short arming a game winning TD pass to a wide open WR in the endzone.
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13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Okay there isn't the contact that there was in my memory but he doesn't clear from Justin Reid quickly enough. He just wasn't precise enough in his cut. He is late to the spot.
Again, no disrepsect, but that is still not accurate, you said Shakir got held up and it made Allen hold the ball a second too long. But Allen throws the pass before Shakir even encounter Reid or makes his cut. So again, no disrespect, but what you said is just not what happened. And the result was Shakir was right where the ball was headed and open in the endzone for the TD catch had it not been short armed because Dion lost his rep against Jones and Allen failed to see/feel the pressure to slide and make a clean slow.
Shakir made a move on Reid, won his rep and cut on Reid, and was wide open for the go ahead and possible game winning TD. The entire failure of the play was on Dion and Allen, Shakir did his job on this play and that is a route you will take from your WR's 10 out 10 times.
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20 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
It was also Shakir. He gets held up in coverage and was late to the spot which makes Josh hold the ball a split second longer.
No disrespect, but for this play, this is not remotely accurate, Shakir had not even encountered a defender before Allen made the throw.
Shakir had a free release from 26 yard line and didn't encounter a defender until the 6 yard line when the ball was already in the air. Nothing at any point slowed Shakir or his route down prior to Allen putting the ball in the air..and had Allen not been stepped on the balls path was on the exact trajectory to hit Shakir exactly where he was open in the end zone. Nothing Shakir did or didn't do impacted how long Allen had to hold the ball.
This play failed Jones won the rep vs Dion combined with Allen not recognizing it and sliding or stepping up to avoid and get a clean throw off. Shakir did his job.
Play starts at 7:45 and then you can see the angle from behind Allen at 8:04.
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6 hours ago, BigDingus said:
THANK YOU.
I don't care what position you play, if you are a bigger part of your team's success & have more impact on the field, you should be paid accordingly.
As much as people like Groot, I cannot in good conscience say he did more than James Cook... yet we were paying him $13 million last year, right around what Cook wants now, then extended him to $20 million a year.
And which side of the ball has everyone complained about not showing up in the playoffs last year? Oh right, the side we rewarded with extensions & bigger contracts.
But the side that put up the most points in franchise history, fortified by a great run game for the first time in Allen's career, and the player who everyone said should've gotten the ball more in the KC playoff game... that's the guy who we shouldn't pay simply because he's a RB?
Makes no sense.
Then who plays DE? What DE are you getting off the street for less that can be at least at Groots level? Much easier and cheaper to find a RB than it is DE's. This isnt about who to pay...its about who is playing in their spot if you don't pay them and what does that cost and what is the return on the investment.
Not paying Groot and replacing him with a cheap FA is going to hurt more than not paying Cook and letting Ray Davis and Ty fill the duties.
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This article/thread is a bit misleading as it isn't about anything he has been doing thus far. Its just an article about his potential as an UDFA based on his college history and player profile.
By default, he has a shot as safety isn't really set yet in terms of the depth, but there are some guys ahead of him that they either like or paid like they feel will contribute. So I would say its a bit of an uphill battle still, but not unsurmountable if he shows out in camp.
BUT - Until I start seeing his name come up as someone impressing or standing out, he will remain a long shot though because there are guys well ahead of him going into camp. If he does start to impress, then sure, there is room in the competition for him to make a case to make the roster, especially if he is also making an impression on ST.
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18 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:
You should worry about the receipts you leave around first.
Remember when you started that thread guaranteeing the Bills would reach the AFCCG late in the 2023 season?
Or when you started your Shakir thread and included things like extrapolating his 2023 15.7 yards per catch number as if there were any chance he was going to replicate that from the slot with a greater target share in 2024. He predictably dropped to just 10.8 yards per catch.
I know that when pressed by yours truly, you put in the fine print later that a mere 900 yard season would justify your hyperbole about how great he was going to be but that's just how you roll.
Aim high, shoot low and claim a bullseye.
Except this isn't what I exactly said now is it (and you know that). Its pretty funny you want to call receipts about 2 threads I was pretty spot on in just about everything I said, and by most peoples accounts. Ive been wrong on things, as has everyone here, just funny you pick 2 things where if you read the threads I was pretty spot on.
It’s cute though that you are playing your usual games and twisting context to paint a different narratives which is your calling card. You on the other hand did spend plenty of time arguing Shakir can't catch and a lot of other nonsense your selective memory likes to gloss over.
18 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:Last offseason in the "quietly better" thread those of us who expressed concern about the quality of the WR corps were near universal in expecting the Bills offense to be good in 2023.
As people like @Kirby Jackson and myself said numerous times that they should still be a top 5 offense regardless. Because Josh Allen is great and they could always generate points in the regular season if they are willing to let the still prime athletic age Allen run 100+ times per year. It was proven by the results of 2023 after Brady took over.
The question is do they have the playmakers in the passing game to win big road games and playoff games?
Just like the issue wasn't whether the Bills Leslie Frazier top ranked and second ranked 2020-2021 defense's were good enough in the regular season.
The question was did they have enough playmakers(specifically pass rushers) to win in the postseason.
The people who got to flash the receipts last year were those of us who knew the WR corps wasn't going to be good enough against top competition and that Beane would be forced to make a trade to try to remedy it.
Shocker that again this is not exactly what you were really saying now is it. This is what you want people to believe you were saying when in reality you were slamming the offense, defending Dorsey after he was fired, even arguing Dorsey over Brady despite the results.
And while there were people who thought some of these things here, most were negative or all doom and gloom about the offense going into last season. And as I said then, before a down of football was even played, that the predictable "spin" once the offense proved to be great still was going to be the classic "Its all Allen" or even give all the credit to Brady...which is verbatim what happened.
However, myself and many others had said all offseason we were still going to be a top 5 offense, had potential to be the best offense of Allens career, addition by subtraction, and might be Allens best season and chance at MVP before a down of football was even played.
But keep on doing what you do where you blur reality and truths to desperately try to never be wrong when a LOT of what you said the past 2 years are things you certainly don't want "receipts" called on.
But you do you boo
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Dont let Henry run 80 yard TD's would be a nice start
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46 minutes ago, Malazan said:
Are there any other caveats you'd like to add? If Diggs is cut, it's because he can't play and they will not cut him until they know that which won't be soon. As I said, it will not happen until he "sees the field" which is just as true now as it was prior to the video being released.
All good man, if you want to believe that so be it. I mean I have no dog in this race or crystal ball and I am not here to say he is for sure getting released. I am just sharing that NE is has been considering it, and its not about whether he can play football still or not. And as I said, it stems beyond just the video. We will see what happens...this is more of a near term consideration, so if he makes it to camp I am guessing he is likely safe barring doing something else stupid or just falling off a cliff on the field.
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2 hours ago, Malazan said:
This is made up BS to capitalize on the attention and get views. There is zero chance he gets released before he sees the field.
Actually it’s not. No disrespect…but…You just stating your opinion doesn’t make it BS.
I’m not claiming he is getting released…but I’ve also heard there is real substance to this from people I trust.
Doesn’t mean it’s imminent, but the Pats are looking at how to get back some of the guaranteed money if they do. There are already things not meshing well with the coaching staff that go beyond the boat and Vrabel isn’t thrilled with the situation right now. And Vrabel wields a big stick there right now. Can it be salvaged still…sure…but to outright say it’s BS and has no chance of happening is not accurate.
If I was forced to choose between whether he is on the team week 1 or not, I would lean towards he probably is. But I also wouldn’t be confident enough in that to place a wager on it either and just rule out a release.
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There is buzz the Pats might release Diggs, not just over the boat incident either…including things like questioning if he’s really all in there in NE.
He better find a way to convince people in NE he is worth keeping around and fast because there is no way at 31, coming off an ACL, and then being released (if he is) that he will get anything close to what NE gave him which honestly was already a legit shock.
He gets released then he better be ready to play on a cheap 1 year deal because that’s all he will get, if even that.
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32 minutes ago, chris heff said:
If you do meet him will you tell him that I love him?
Absolutely.
My wife asked me “How willyou hide your b*ner if we meet Josh?”
And I said “Who said anything about hiding it?”
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My wife’s friend and her husband are, she is Hailee’s makeup artist. Hoping to meet them at the Golf Tournament he’s playing in Lake Tahoe in July that we are going to.
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22 hours ago, MarlinTheMagician said:
Tell me I am stupid, a hater or just off base.
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1 hour ago, NoSaint said:
is there a reason we think diggs would be strict about party drugs other than suspension concerns?
He’s been pretty strict on what he puts in his body and he’s hyper focused on proving he’s not done after the injury. So I would just personally be a little surprised if he was a user rather than just a provider in this instance. Especially with camp here and the risks with drug testing as well.
It’s not uncommon for athletes to bring “party favors” when they aren’t using them themselves. But who knows, maybe he does…just saying I’d be a little surprised
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2 hours ago, Yard Monkey said:
Yes, pathetic. If you are referring to the Packers game, it was his last play as a Bill thankfully. Chan Gailey was furious on the sideline. All of the receivers ran vertical routes and he didn’t throw it.
“Trent Edwards' infamous 4th and 11 play happened during his final game as a Buffalo Bill on September 19, 2010, against the Green Bay Packers. Instead of attempting a pass, he ran out of bounds after gaining only 6 yards, sealing Buffalo's fate in a 34-7 loss.
It was a frustrating moment for Bills fans, and just eight days later, Edwards was released by the team.”
Yeah that was it...so bad, for some reason I thought he was on the team longer than that after it, but still should have been cut before he hit the showers lol
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2 hours ago, The Wiz said:
Random drug test incoming maybe???
He gave the items to the girls, so doubt he was using them. But certainly warrants a drug test, but I would be surprised if he failed from what we know about Diggs personally.
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10 minutes ago, SoTier said:
"Captain Checkdown" never learned to read defenses ... which is why he earned that nickname. He was the perfect QB for Dick Jauron (who believed in playing not to lose games by too much) because Edwards was good with throwing a 4 yard pass on third and 5 and then punting. Jauron disliked Losman because he (Losman) tried too hard to make plays and win -- IOW, he took risks, which Jauron hated.
The worst play I have ever personally witnessed was watching Trent run out of bounds on 4th down on our final drive of the game instead of trying to make a play happen. Most pathetic, gutless, unacceptable play I have ever seen live in a game. She should have been benched or cut before he hit the showers.
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Lol...the dumbest part of this by Diggs is he knows there is a camera recording lol.
That being said, not sure how anyone could discipline Diggs here. I haven't heard of Pink Coke before, but regardless of what it was or wasn't, not sure how anyone can prove it was if Diggs denies it and says it was something else.
So I think the only person Diggs may be in the most trouble with is his boo Cardi B lol...although rumor is she was also on the boat, so maybe not lol
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1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said:
Trent was never good, even before that hit
Thank you!
The myth of Trent Edwards is wild to me. I remember that season when we started 4-0 and I started a thread stating if he doesn't play better we would miss the playoffs. I got flamed left and right because we were "4-0" - albeit we had just beat 4 of the worst teams in the NFL. Trent had 1 TD in each game...our Def/ST combined for more TD's over that 4 game span than Trent had himself. And we barely beat 2 of those really bad teams that year.
He wasn't good, all he did was just not make mistakes while we beat the bottom feeding teams and let our defense/ST help carry us to wins. Soon as our defense and ST stopped scoring TD's we couldn't win a game with the president of Dakota Fannings fan club at the helm.
He was never good. He showed some potential as a rookie, then created false hope when he wasn't doing a whole lot in a hot 4-0 start against bad teams where our D and ST were scoring an unsustainable amount of times, and then just went on to never improve from what he had been.
And the injury myth still persists to this day for some as the reason he stunk
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1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said:
I don't miss the days of trying to convince ourselves that Justin Fields is going to help us compete
Oh wait, thats the Jets message board
Bahahaha...post of the week
Man, those were some dark days. When your teams most popular or clamored for football player is the back up QB no matter how bad they are, its a very dark era at QB. I mean we lived through times where people made cases for guys like Brohm, Cardale Jones, etc just because they had yet to get on the field in a real game and prove they were trash yet. Gross
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15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
I agree with all this except I still think Keon is best suited as a big slot rather than as a Z receiver. I maintain if he ever ends up putting up really big numbers in the NFL it will be playing at least half of his snaps inside.
I also think the fact he has the most upside of anyone on the current roster at X is a bit of an indictment on the Bills outside receiver options, but that has been done to death elsewhere.
On a positive note...I will say this...the notes coming out on Keon so far this offseason are very encouraging so far and raising the level of excitement and optimism around Keon IMHO. Earlier this offseason Josh was speaking publicly about how Keon has been in his ear all off season about how he can get better and be better for Josh. Then he shows up with 10 more pounds of muscle and reportedly looking faster than ever in his cuts and just faster overall.
It's way too early to put too much stock into anything, good or bad, especially before pads go on. But we are at least hearing the things we want to hear about him thus far. But the one thing I maintained heading into the offseason is that Keon wants it...he wants to be great. And that for me is what I want to see in the young guys, that drive, commitment, extra gear to really push themselves in the offseason to come back and be a better version of themselves. And he has a lot of guys on this team that know what thats like and put that work in during their own careers, including his MVP QB and fellow WR Shakir more recently.
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Keon Coleman success by route - Not pretty
in The Stadium Wall
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No disrespect my friend, but if you truly believe this then that in itself would be a complete and total failure by Allen on that fact alone. For the record, I don't think Allen thought that at all, but if he did then that is without question a critical failure by him.
You are stating that Allen has no responsibility to check the pressure coming from what is probably the best and most clutch game wrecker in the league...And on a play where Allen knows:
Sorry...what you just wrote here just doesn't make sense IMHO, nor is it something I suspect a coach would agree with, nor do I think Allen would. And as much as I love Dion, he isn't better than Chris Jones and isn't so good you can just completely ignore Chris Jones in a game on the line moment as a QB.
And quite honestly, our lack of handling the defensive pressure is what ended our last 2 seasons.