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Pretty on par with what I think was expected. Josh is 7th on the list now, but after Burrow and Herbert Allen will be almost out of the top 10 in most expensive. Just an absolute bargain Josh Allens contract is now for who is arguably the 2nd best player in the NFL.

Baltimore isnt going to trade their first in a trade for Hopkins, they have big needs, especially at CB and they have a great shot at great corner with their pick. So them swapping their first is not gonna happen IMHO

Well considering Pac-Mans source is obviously Hopkins, and he has multiple times listed Ravens in play, I think that clearly indicated the Ravens are a legit option. But with the severe need for a CB for the Ravens, I doubt their first round pick would be included into a trade given the CB's that should be on the board when they would pick in the first.

At least we know todays Ravens buzz was about Lamar resigning instead of Hopkins. Of course, Hopkins could still end up there, but at least the good news coming for Ravens fans was about Lamar

Hopkins.

Just curious why you think they would take Mazi over Jordan Addison at 27 given how many times they have met with Addison now. IMHO Addison is the one player they have shown the most interest in and would definitely be the pick if he’s there.

Oh sorry, read on my phone without glasses hahaha, getting old sucks haha. Thought it said or one of the other other defensive tackles. My bad

Typo here, you got Anton as a defensive tackle instead of OT. I think the plan is to get Addison and if they don’t feel they can, that is when pulling trigger on Hopkins becomes a higher chance of happening IMHO.

Spot on…But your one mistake was taking the time to write it and posting it here on TSW cuz the inbound rage from a certain collection of posters is inevitable 😂

I think Mayer will be the first TE off the board personally and I don't think he will get past the Chargers, and if he does, certainly not past the Cowboys.

No disrespect, but a lot of what you wrote below is inaccurate of just badly exaggerated and skewed. Hopkins was on pace this year 120 rec and 1400 despite catching passes in half his games from an ancient 2nd string QB on his last leg and a bum 3rd string QB. Hopkins is only 6 months older than Diggs, so I don't see age being a grave concern. And "started getting injured" is just a misleading statement. He had one injury, so no need to try and exaggerate that to sound like it was a string of injuries. In fact, prior to that injury, Hopkins only missed a total of 2 games his entire career. Come on...you already know that is because of a suspension. No disagreement on the value of having a great slot guy. I personally still like Shakirs potential, but I would not at all be upset if we took someone like Downs for example to come in and challenge for that slot spot. Davis in his 3 year career has just three 100 yard games...three total over 3 years...while playing in the number 2 offense (2nd only to KC by just 10 points) over that 3 year span and in a high volume pass attack. Hopkins has 9 during the same 3 year period and that is with Hopkins missing 19 games over that span. No disrespect, but Davis and Hopkins are not remotely on the same level of WR, its not even close. Hopkins has been one of the best, and at times the best, WR in football most of his career. Davis has been a good WR3 and a subpar WR2 so far.

Anton is probably the 2nd best pass blocker in the draft, so I think he can compete with Brown and probably even over take him. And if not, Anton gives us good depth as a swing tackle this year as well or insurance against Brown's injuries. The area Anton has shown promise at but still needs to improve is run blocking, but we are going to remain a high volume pass attack, so getting one of the best pass blockers in the draft would definitely help the OL. There is also always the possibility of kicking him inside to guard too if Brown comes back strong. Its just a big risk to enter the season trusting that Brown finally puts it all together this year. He has shown promise as a rookie, but even that wasn't a "great" season and last year was a disaster for him.

Gabe isn't a good route runner and has a limited route tree

He’s actually a pretty precise route runner. Not sure why some think he isn’t. Biggest question marks are his hands as he had some drops and doesn’t always play up to his size the way you would think for contested balls. But route running is one of his strengths.

He was that good before injuries. Draft can’t predict injuries

I think its time to update the mock because the draft is tomorrow as it is...there is a clear winner here in the poll

Like I said, I am pretty sure its about Booker closing out the Clippers yesterday, they are good friends.

The tweet from OBJ I think is about Devin Booker who he’s boys with and frequently at Suns games. Suns bounced the Clippers last night from playoffs, hence “BOOOOOKUMMM” tweet. But people assuming it must mean either Lamar signed or Hopkins is coming…or both.

Oh gotcha, sorry I thought you meant in general. I actually didn't know there was a new clip today, just saw it though

Pac-man literally cited the Ravens, and its where the term "skrong" originated when he used that (implying strong) term regarding the possibility of him becoming a Raven. So how can you say "Not Ravens." when Pac-man has specifically stated the Ravens are a strong contender for Hopkins?

My hot take: Despite popular belief around here, 3 or 4 Tight Ends (I see people suggesting Kincaid, Mayer, Washington and even sometimes seen people suggest either LaPorta or Musgrave as first rounders) will not be drafted round 1 and Dalton Kincaid will NOT be the first TE taken. At most 2 will go, and Michael Mayer will be the first one drafted.

Hahaha touche, well played. Personally I don't think he goes any sooner than Detroit at 48. Detroit has another pick at 55 too, so I think that is Jack Campbell's best shot at going before our pick at 59. ack Campbell feels like the type of old school player Dan Campbell likes and I can see him going to Detroit at 48 or 55. And if he gets past both of Detroit's picks, then I think is likely on the board on 59 if Bills are interested and if we were to pass then I would think Eagles would give a heavy look at 62 given the losses they had at LB this free agency. That is my range of where I think he goes...between 48 and 62.

Gronk panning out though didn't change the fact he did have legit medical flags. There are a significantly more amount of players with medical concerns and red flags who didn't pan out. So if Darnell Washington's medicals are a legit concern, he is going to drop for sure into 2nd round or possibly lower if they are significant concerns, especially in a rich TE class at the top. Now if the medicals are being exaggerated (very possible) to try and drive his price down, then he could go in the first still. Is this really a hot take though? I mean I think this is the range most people expect him to go

Yeah, I do think Buffalo could still legitimately trade for Hopkins, but I also feel Beane is waiting to see if he will have an opportunity to get Addison or JSN first in the draft (or whatever WR's they feel good about in that first round). And I agree, swapping picks and sending Oliver almost certainly makes no sense for AZ, and prob not a lot of sense for Buffalo right now. The only value going to AZ is Oliver and a small move up in the draft, no additional draft picks are being added. That means AZ both has to value Oliver as a long term piece and/or really want someone at 27. We are sitting here looking at 27 as a place to trade down from, so how much value does this move up really have to AZ? There would need to be someone they legitimately covet and feel that his value is noticeably higher than anyone they would get at 34. We are only talking 9 spaces, and all the players going in these ranges likely have round 2 grades already given this is a weak top end draft. Oliver - If the value isn't there with the pick swap, then Oliver would need to be a piece they valued and want to extend and keep around. Given his inconsistency, not sure AZ is looking at Oliver that way. Beane would also be making an all in type move to get Hopkins given he has short term value with his age, so would he really want to weaken our DL by creating another hole he has to fill in a year we are pushing for a SB? Especially given they type of offenses we face this year both in our division and outside our division (AFC West and NFC East along with Cincinnati). This is a defense that already has a big hole to fill with Edmunds gone. So for me, I do think a trade is still possible, however I think this idea of a pick swap and sending Oliver is not realistic, and that is coming from me who proposed this exact trade months ago (mainly to make the cap stuff work). I think if the Bills miss out on whatever WR's they were targeting in the first, a Hopkins trade might become more realistic for them. But I think that trade is going to need to include a draft pick(s) to AZ and I no longer think moving Oliver is going to be how Beane approaches the handling the cap stuff. There are a number of other ways to make the money work, especially since Hopkins has made it clear he is willing to work with the new team on his contract to facilitate the trade. My guess...sending AZ a 3rd next year that could conditionally become a 2nd. Or sending our 3rd this year, but if I was AZ, I would rather take the potentially better draft asset in a draft next year that is expected to be noticeably better draft than this year. And if the Bills did get a 3rd comp pick next year, that offsets the sting of trading our 3rd (that could become a 2nd) next year quite a bit too.

I wonder if the poll is a bit skewed just given it sounds like the trade details on the Hopkins trade originally were not as complete as they are now and that caused people to vote differently in the beginning. I am quite surprised Hopkins trade is not the leading vote getter right now, and I suspect that might be the cause.