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He’s a rookie…too early to assess. But also Dorsey sucks at using weapons consistently and correctly, so there’s that too

The only thing disingenuous is this absurd argument that you created a narrative that I said Davis didn’t show up. Dude learn to read posts correctly. I said the only 3 that played with any fire seemed to be Alllen, Diggs, and AJE. That doesn’t mean no one else showed up at all, but from beginning to end they had the most energy out there. Davis slept walk the early parts of this game and didn’t have the same energy as those 3 from start to finish. Again, stop making up narratives that I didn’t say. I never said Davis had a bad game, but he was not the same player on the first half as she was in the 2nd half, and he had 2 bad drops. So I’m not going to say he was wire to wire playing with the same intensity and focus as Allen, Diggs and AJE did. That doesn’t mean none of them made mistakes, I said they seemed to have more fire in them today than some of the other guys. So relax, I haven’t said anything you’re implying about your beloved Davis.

Except I didn’t say he didn’t show up. You said that. I said the only ones playing with any fire seemed to be Allen, Diggs, and AJE. You’re making your own conclusions from that as it I said Davis was a bum today, never said that. All I said was I wouldn’t put his start to finish game in the same class as Diggs today for all 4 quarters. So stop inventing new narratives I didn’t say.

He also had 5 dropped passes and a deep one wrestled away from Diggs. Allen was the only reason we still had a shot in this game. The OL stunk and so did the refs too.

Dishonest? Davis had a momentum and drive killing drop for what have been a first down. Then he did it again, except the stat sheet won’t show it because a penalty eliminated the play. So, I wouldn’t put his game in the same category as Diggs, both his drops were bad.

How was Josh off? His first 4 incompletions were 3 drops and a throw away when OL got blown up.

Plenty of other factors from injuries to horrific refs that contributed to this loss, but we had 4 drives ended by dropped passes and that’s all in our control. Would have been 5 too but a penalty negated the play. Cook, Knox, Diggs, Davis all dropped passes that killed our drives which would have been first downs, with Davis having a second drop for a first down erased off the stat sheet by a penalty. Feels like the only people who showed up to play with any fire today was Allen, Diggs and AJE. Milano and Daquan get a pass as they were hurt. But the dropped passes in a game where refs were working against us were just killers.

Glad he went there and not here like some wanted. He is a locker room and effort cancer. No thank you. We are having no issues scoring, we don’t need an under performing lazy WR with attitude issues.

Agreed, the OL playing much better. Which I think is a combo of upgrades on the line and guys being healthy along with the more efficient offense where we aren't holding the ball as long aggressively trying to push downfield as frequently.

Things are different now than before. We don't have a soft bend don't break defense anymore like we had under Frazier. Dorsey and Allen seem to be on the same page and understanding how to balance aggression and smart take what they give you football. So I think we are going to see this hold this time as along as we avoid critical injuries.

Its hard to say...one thing is clear, Josh getting the ball out faster is a big reason for it and taking quick strikes rather than looking downfield so often for deeper plays to develop. Is that Dorsey adjusting how he calls plays, where the first reads are, etc? Or is that Josh realizing how much easier the game becomes when he takes what is there because it opens everything else up more and he has higher percentage shots downfield vs always looking to force it down field first so often. Personally, I think its a combo of both Josh buying into focusing on taking what is there and Dorsey game planning to help Josh see those opportunities quicker and prioritize them. All I know is whatever the reason, its working and I expect to keep seeing lots more of it.

Lol…what are you even talking about now. Comparing Allen and Burrow is comparing two guys who have won nothing…so their individual stats are fair to compare. And what are you bring refs up about? I never said anything about any refs lol

By the way, he got this move from Brady. Here is an interview of him talking about it and the form with Mark Sanchez on why and the mechanics of it.

Hahaha true and keep an eye for it, it’s 100% every time

The biggest tell on this offense is that when Josh Allen is lined up under center, he 100% of the time drops one foot back presnap if it’s going to be a QB Sneak. And if he’s not sneaking it, 100% of the time his feet are side by side presnap. This has been true since he entered the league, I check every game for this, he still does this every time.

Burrow has won nothing. There’s no trophies for 2nd place. The idea you would reference Burrow to Brady in any capacity is utterly comical. Not only has Burrow won nothing but he’s probably not gonna even make the playoffs this year lol.

He has not surpassed Allen in anything, literally nothing. Have the Bengals defense helped Burrow go 1 round further in the playoffs, sure...but QB to QB Allen has accomplished more as a passer in the regular season and literally dwarfs Burrows rather pedestrian post season stats. Allen has just in the regular season only...with WORSE weapons than Burrow, substantially worse when you factor in his whole career Most TDs in NFL history through first 5 years Multuiple time MVP finalist, including runner up in 2021 with a season that was better than most past winners 3 straight divisional championships Multiple playoff passing records Allen vs Burrow playoff resume Allen 8 games, Burrow 7 games Allen has double the TD's 20 to 10 Burrow has a higher turnover rate (both have 4 interceptions and no fumbles...but Allens was over 8 games, Burrows was in just 7) Allens TD to INT ration is 5-1...Burrows is 2.5-1 (so half of Allens) Allen produces over 80 yards more total yards per game Allen passes for over 30 yards more per game Allen bests him significantly in Rating, YPA, and just about every metric there is The literally only stat Burrow is better in is comp % by a difference of just ONE completion per game yet Allen grossly outproduces him in every statistical category Yet...despite all that, Burrow has had superior weapons and Allen has also played through a serious elbow injury and worse weather. But because in 2021, Josh Allens defense failed to hold a lead in final 13 seconds and OT while Burrows defense magically stopped the same Mahomes offense for just 3 points in the 2nd half allowing Burrow and the offense to just sneak back up and steal the game you seem to think that makes him the better QB? Allen grossly outplayed what Burrow did in the KC game the week before against the same Chiefs defense, but Frazier and our inept defense failed him. And sure, Bengals won last year, but that was a TEAM loss, the whole Bills franchise was flat that day and that does not make Burrow better than Allen any more than Zack Wilson beating the Bills (twice) would make Zack better than Allen. Sorry...its just not corret to say Burrow has accomplished more. Bengals TEAMS have done more, but that doesn't make Burrow more "accomplished" individually as a passer. Trent Dilfer won a SB while Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, etc have not...doesn't make Dilfer better than them.

I didnt say he was. Thread is titled "hypothetically" by the OP

I am not saying Burrow having a calf injury isn't valid...Im saying its BS how Burrow and Allen are not be treated the same where Allen did not get the same benefit of the doubt while playing through a worse injury last year and instead was being labeled as "regressing" and "overrated"

Allen didn't get the injury benefit of the doubt when he had an injury to his throwing elbow, which is more significant than a calf injury. Its not like Burrow can't walk or something out there. Not saying legs are not important to a QB, saying Allens injury was more impactful than Burrows yet all the talk was Allen is regressing, not that the injury could be impacting him.

Which poster is that? Maybe it’s my shadow account there hahaha

I have to confess...I created an account over there this week and am s***ing on their team and giving them reality checks from the inside disguised as one of their own 🤣

But he did just call some people out, just not by name. And that doesn't make him a bad person, that makes him a leader. I don't get why some of you have said you don't think he would call anyone out because he is a nice or great person. Holding people accountable is what a leader is supposed to do, and he is doing it without dragging anyones name in the mud by leaving it more generalized than naming anyone.

Why does Burrow get the injury excuse and Allen didn't last year even though Allens injury was more serious and more impactful in actually throwing the football? Curious, have you watched a Bengals game? Burrow does not look good at all, and it goes beyond anything to do with his calf.

Wow haha had not heard that