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Plenty? You mean 2? One of which was a very difficult catch that was harder than the one Diggs dropped on 2nd to last play yesterday? This narrative on him just makes no sense Are you going to give Davis a pass for dropping another 3rd down conversion because an unrelated flag kept it off his stat sheet? Does that unrelated flag change the fact he dropped the ball again?

He has 8 catches on 9 targets and I don't see him credited with a drop. Davis dropped 2 3rd down conversions in the same game this year. So I don't see how Shakir can be labeled someone who drops passes when he has had so little opportunity to show one way or the other. People made a big deal about a very difficult catch he dropped in the playoff game, but he didn't even drop it, he just wasn't able to keep it from moving when he laid out for it and hit the ground. Diggs drop on the 2nd to last play for example against NE was way worse. You'e awesome Virgil, and no offense, but this notion that Shakir has bad hands or drops passes is just not fair to him. He had 2 drops last year, one of which was a very difficult catch that guys like Diggs drop too. Davis is a proven drop machine and Knox goes through phases where he can make some crazy difficult catches then drop important less difficult ones. Its time to let other guys see if they can improve this offense because Davis getting 96% of the snaps and putting up 1 catch all the time is not getting it done.

Not for Knox What drop issues though? You’re talking about camp. Mahomes had an interception issue all through camp before coming out the gate and winning MVP. Camp is camp, means nothing. He has none this year and made plays every time he was called upon. And we are talking about Gabe who has a real drops issue

Agree on the ones out in space, good point on that.

Exactly…This is my point, he isn’t doing enough to dominate the snap count like he has, especially since Dorsey is obsessed with the 12 personnel which further limits the other receivers usage

He has no dropped passes this year while Knox and Davis are out there killing drives with drops

Shakir had several nice blocks today that I saw and last week too.

What we needed was less DESIGNED runs where they ran Allen like a FB up the middle of the D off the snap. What we always needed, and desperately need back, is Josh taking off with his legs when he wasn’t seeing what he wanted down field. And in those moments we needed Josh to get down once he made the play rather than take big hits fighting for a couple extra yards. Also, those runs and hits always fire Josh up, in fact, that’s when Josh is the most fired up if you go back and watch highlights. He feeds off that and without it’s like there is this extra gear missing from his game now.

Davis is the same he always has been. Occasional impact game, then many games of poor showings. He has a limited route tree, unreliable hands, and can’t get separation anywhere that doesn’t require him running mostly in straight lines. Shakir has been making plays every time he is called upon this year, and with the dominant number of snaps being given to Davis at WR while also running 12 personnel so often, it had severely limited the targets and snaps for guys like Shakir. Davis is getting too many reps to be producing this little. Time to get other guys involved who are better route runners and more reliable hands, and that starts with Shakir at WR and Kincaid at TE.

Bump. Like I was saying above…

The issue is Dorsey and this offense have been exposed and figured out. Dorsey seems in over his head to adapt. They have coached the hero out of Allen too, they need to let him be him and live with the good and the bad. It’s made him less decisive and hesitant at times and this team needs the Josh that became elite, not the tamed Josh they are trying to create.

Josh leads the NFL in comp %. Josh had 3 TDs and almost 300 yards. The guy needs help, and it starts with letting him be Josh and Dorsey being replaced

Hurt. Everyone who matters is hurt.

Those weapons are so much better than what KC has

Really? Our starting DTs are both out and you ask this question? Lmao

I have never felt his seat would get warm without a collapse of some sort. But I mean if we lose this game, I think his seat starts getting warm. We have been awful for 2 1/2 games now during the easiest part of our schedule. That’s a mini collapse.

Dorsey SUCKED at using his personnel last year. He’s done nothing to show me any growth in that area this year. He is the biggest problem on offense IMHO.

Nice post, well said. Also...Ford was graded to go as high as 15th overall in the draft. And when I did one of my mock drafts that year and I had us taking Ford in the 2nd, tons of people piled on me and said no way Ford ever gets to the 2nd round or anywhere close to us. Now that he didn't work out, people act like it was a known fact he was gonna be a bust. I was pounding the drum months before the draft for DK and I wanted him in the first, and when he was still there in the 2nd I was again praying it was DK even though I knew for sure it was gonna be Ford especially after the trade up. But as much as I wanted DK, I was not at all upset with the Ford pick because our OL needed help and he was great value there for that spot in that draft. Revisionists always crack me up and they pretend GM's were magically supposed to have seen into the future on every pick. Ford was a good pick there at that moment in that draft. Ultimately he didn't work out, but no one was going to blame any team for drafting Ford there.

THIS times 100000% Ive never seen a player of Allens caliber get held to such a crazy standard of perfection or he sucks type barometer. For example, last year he was labeled a "redzone turnover machine"...even though he only had 1 turnover in the redzone his whole career prior to last year and again has none this year. But the moment he makes a couple, its now some pandemic level problem he has already had by these crusaders. The narrative after the Jets game was Bills have not gotten over the hump because of Allens turnovers. Well his only real shots at a SB were 2021 and 2022 (This team wasn't ready as a whole to be better than KC in 2020)...and in both those games turnovers had zero to do with Bills being eliminated from the playoffs. In fact, one was considered one of the greatest QB performances in NFL history. The only turnover he had was on the last play of the Bengals game heaving the ball down field in the snow down 3 scores and the game over. Turnovers literally had zero to do with our loss which was a total team failure as we were beaten bad in ever facet of the game. Furthermore, coming into 2023, over the past 2 seasons Mahomes only has 4 less interceptions, and Burrow only had 3 less. YET...Mahomes has a superior OL and better weapons over that window to Allen, and Burrow had far superior weapons during that span. Plus, Josh played more than half a season with a hurt throwing elbow missing no time and playing through it when most QB's would have missed 4-6 weeks. Not to mention the worse weather Allen plays in and stress the team and Buffalo faced last year. It makes no sense either...Josh is easily one of the most likable people in the NFL, but people are so dedicated to being right about their pre draft stuff about him sucking that they can't help themselves. And when the Bills lose, people pile on Josh right away. When KC loses, its never Mahomes fault. When Burrow loses, it's never his fault, there is always an excuse.

Doesn't matter what McD does there, half this board will say it was wrong. Kicks FG, he is wrong for not punting for reasons you stated. Punts, everyone calls him a conservative wuss afraid to go for points with a good kicker in Bass. It was a lose lose situation for McD as far as TSW goes, not decision would be seen as right. However, I think he should have punted and for all the reasons you stated. They needed a TD, and were on like a 2 game drought of scoring a TD and we were fielding a stout defense still. But I also don't blame him for trusting Bass there, if he hits it they still need a TD, but Bills can't lose on that TD. This was truly a toss up call IMHO, I would have punted just given how well our D had played and how poorly their offense had played, but I also wasn't upset at giving bass a shot at a FG he is fully capable of hitting. And still, it was only going to be a difference of about 30 yards anyway, you still had a weak offense over there where he probably had confidence if we missed that his D could still hold them.

Don't care enough about a guy who will never be a Bill to read a 9 page thread to see if there is any further info on how real this story is or not. It doesn't matter how real it is or not, because there is less than a 0% chance any team would give a player who has never stepped on an NFL field part ownership in a team. Note: There is less than a 0% chance they would do this for any player in the league ever, not even a Mahomes. Players come and go, the league is forever. They can't and will not ever open that pandoras box, nor should they. So this is either utter delusion by Caleb who is about to get a rude awakening, who isn't even playing that great the past couple weeks by the way...or it's just a BS story or some some exaggerated story that probably originated off a joke or something. PS: Good chance too this is just some postering his team around him is doing in terms of maybe trying to affect some teams interest that he does not want to play for who may be in contention for the top pick too. All the talk around LA is that he will stay at USC if certain teams end up with the top pick and intend on picking him. So this could be some games or a smoke screen to try and cool some interest from teams he doesn't want to play for too. For example, from what I have heard is that there is no way he will go to Chicago even though all my Chicago friends think they are getting both Caleb and Harrison Jr this draft. Supposedly he won't go to a team that has a poor history of developing QB's, and Chicago's track record might be the worst in the NFL at that.

Its not McDaniels call though, and the GM doesn't need the permission of the coach that may not be the HC very long given his long resume of suck outside of NE. Not saying it will happen, because it probably won't. However, it is also not unrealistic given his cap hit and the fact the Raiders may just decide to rebuild as Adams isn't getting any younger, and that team isn''t likely going to be ready to contend anytime soon.

I mean lets be honest...we should be on a 2 game losing streak and sitting at 3-3. We didn't beat the lowly Giants, they gave that game away twice at half time and end of game. So yes, we are 4-2 and that matters more, but losing to the Jags the way we did and then "surviving" to barely beat the worst offense in the NFL doesn't instill a lot of confidence when we face a real tough stretch of games starting week 9 with Cincy. In our last 9 games we face: Bengals, Jets, Philly, KC, Dallas, Chargers, Miami - that is 7 tough games out of the 9 (other two are Denver and NE). We could lose any of those games, and the way we played the last 2 weeks offensively where we had 7 points midway through the 4th quarter in both games, we will lose all of those games if our offense plays like that against those teams. And lets not forget we just lost Tre, Milano, and Jones for the season and the only test so far of life after them was against the NFL's worst offense and even though the final score looks good, the defense allowed them to drive to the 1 yard line both end of half and end of game where the Giants really are the true culprit for those defensive "stands". I mean if not for mistake on the play call for Giants end of half, they win that game. So sure, easy to say we are 4-2...but to win this division, over the final 10 games we must win as many as Miami (or more). If we lose even 1 more game than them, we will not be able to win the division come week 17 when we face them in the final game of the season. And we won't keep pace with Miami scoring a total of 7 points midway through the 4th quarter of games. Im not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but right now, this team looks more like a pretender than a contender the last 2 weeks. Dorsey needs to get his head out of his a** and fix this offense asap or we certainly won't win the division, and may struggle to make the playoffs if this offense keeps sputtering when we face off with those 7 tough games starting week 9. Except we have never kicked it in and tore through the league through the AFCCG or seen a SB. That is the problem. There is no history to bank on thats positive. NE had the benefit of the doubt...all we do is prove we fade and fold in the playoffs.

Here is why these stat things are so flawed...theres absolutely no context to the production. The issue with Davis is not that he won't have solid year end totals, its the fact that he: Has a few big games and disappears for many of the games He has unreliable hands He has a limited route tree and provides little value anywhere but downfield A lot of his production comes from Allen extending plays and Davis breaking off his routes...which is because Davis doesn't win a lot of his initial routes Coming into this season he had 3 total 100 yard games over 3 seasons (1 per year literally). But more than half his games he has under 50 yards. We have Josh Allen with a big arm and Davis is good deep ball player so his end year totals will look solid, but it's a real indicator of his week to week value and performance because he is a one dimensional who is also easily schemed out of games. This results in a an unreliable and inconsistent player for Josh where his best value to our QB is on lower percentage throws deep down field rather than moving the chains and extending drives. He had 2 drive killing drops in the Jax game (one got wiped out by a penalty and isn't on his stat sheet now) that were bad for example.

How can that be? Ive been told that because the offense is still top 5 ranked that proves Dorsey isn't the problem.