WhitewalkerInPhilly

All the people jumping to the conclusion that there's no chance of us getting Clay.

Why is everyone freaking out? That's what free agency is. If I'm a young guy who isn't getting the blockbuster contract there are concerns more than just immediate money. Especially if you take a big money first year or two and underperform you get a rep like Mike Wallace. I'd want to know what the coaches have to say first.

You are aware that Shady's $40M deal divided over five years equals $8M a year, right?

Hey, as long as the Jets don't get a competent QB somewhere in there...

A little pricey up front, up if Roman really, really, REALLY thinks that he is the guy, I would be onboard. Miami may be ducking the cap reaper this year, but oh dear crap is it going to bite them in the ass in '16 and '17, especially if they decide to go all in with a meh QB.

I am biased, as I am dating one, but I find that Eagles fans tend to share our "I'm optimistic!"/"Well maybe it won't be so bad..."/"Hey, only we get to talk how bad our team is!"/"DOOOOOOOMEEEED" cycle, so I can't hate them. That and they hate the Cowboys. Man, f*ck the Cowboys.

Suh has a base contract of $23.5M in year two. The Dolphins are getting him ridiculously low this year, but if the Bills front load a multi-year deal, maybe $8.5/year with a good chunk guaranteed for two years, and then maybe 2-5M for three years would work out well down the pipe. Clay is pretty young, so if the FO is sure about him...

Well, the Bills enter talks with a transition tag player. Said player's team announces a big money signing that has cap ramifications. The Bills allegedly are to go all in for Clay. Right after this, they release their starting TE for cap space. I'm not saying they get Clay, I'm saying that they are probably pretty sure they will.

What I read between the lines from this is that the Bills are positive they are getting Clay.

Hey, Gailey knew how to get every bit out of Fitz and Spiller. I wouldn't be shocked to see a reunion.

I read it on Bleacher Report.

Early reports also indicate that the Bills will need to spend more than the Dolphins get Clay, and that they will need to score more points than the other team to win games.

It's a nice change to have Bills fans to not be the most despair ridden group I know.

To his credit Murray is better than Shady at going North-South. But I agree with you that every bad thing that's supposedly wrong with the Shady trade is even more so with Murray: He's a year older, coming off a year when Dallas rode him half to death, has a worse injury history and will likely have competition to sign when Shady had GONE ON RECORD that he'd be willing to take a pay cut for the Eagles. Not just a restructure a cut. As someone mentioned in another thread it looks like Chip the GM is killing Chip the genius HC.

There's plenty of room there. All the Eagles fans I know are off the bandwagon and are currently standing over the Ben Franklin bridge.

I don't see it. Bradford can throw well enough when he's healthy, but the injury and salary cap concerns are problematic. It would be a questionable trade if it was pure player for play. Trading AWAY a 2nd rounder AND Foles is mystifying to me.

To be fair, he likely is often the smartest man in the room where he is most of the time. Unfortunately for him, there are a lot of rooms with a lot of smart people across the NFL who are smart in different ways. Whaley wasn't brilliant giving Shady a deal with lower $/year, but more overall and more guaranteed. He just saw a good player and made a reasonable option.

Well...so much for speculation. Thanks Shady!

I know this is a double post, I came across this in the official Bills sitdown interview with Shady. It seems that he and Gore were friends, to the point where Shady was asking about Roman's system and what to expect: I wonder if the way that Chip treated Shady had anything to do with Gore changing his mind.

And...all of the likes. Seriously, I love this guy. My girlfriend does too...and as an Eagles fan she is PISSED

Fair enough, and I respect asking for a courteous answer. Overall in the league the movement has been to more of a passing game.This is the common trend the league is going, but it requires a dominating passing QB, and there are maybe six of them in the league. If you are not so blessed, you make schemes that make it easier. One way is the spread offense, which we saw make Fitz look like a long term starter for a while with barrel scraping receivers. Other examples are the Chip Kelly system. Greg Roman's (it's arguable how much of it is his how how much is Harbaugh's) revitalized the deemed bust Alex Smith, and plugged in a 2nd round pick that few had heard of to superstar status by forcing teams to send 8 or 9 men into the box to contain a power run game, leading receivers to be free in 1 on 1 matchups. If you have talented guys like Sammy and Woods (and hopefully an easy dump off TE who can fight off a safety and get 5-10 yards after the catch consistently), you tend to win those matchups. But you still need to run the ball effectively when you have those mismatches with 8 or 9 men in the box. Good fullbacks, really good fullbacks, when used in creative systems can help a ton. They can not only grind out hard short yardage situations, but they tend to be used in the screen game, and most importantly clear blocks for the superstar speedster running backs. In unglamorous work, and it tends to not get you big paychecks, but if you don't want the RB you are spending $8M a year for to get clobbered, and hit the hole for big yards. If you set up them as primary blockers, you can also fool some teams when they are the main ball carriers to get reliable yardage. Felton is considered one of the best in the game, and Vikings fans I've heard from say that he was a big component to AP getting his 2,000 yard season.

His cap hit is fairly high, even if the signing bonus stays like Shady's did.

I'm not saying it's out of the question. Bradford, when not hurt, can run and fits the Chip Kelly syste. SL gets a quality QB on the cheap to save against the massive cap hit.

Do they accept souls? They would get every Bills fan's

Well, they certainly filled the hole left my Suh. Possibly a literal hole.