WhitewalkerInPhilly

I just *keep* hearing rave reviews about Elijah Moore. Obviously let's see what happens when the pads come on but it would be great if we had a major find

Once again, I'll do my small plug for NFL+ Premium. $100 a year for live radio streams and NFL Sunday ticket, replays available almost immediately after the game, All-22 footage. It's a quarter of the price I paid in 2023 for Sunday Ticket to watch 3 Bills games live that I couldn't have watched without it. Plus it's for the full year so I can rewatch my favorite games from last year in the dead zone before training camp

He might. Granted he's a bubble player but he's a special teamer, knows the system and we aren't overwhelmed with LB depth. They saw something in him that they didn't in Nick Morrow last year

In my mind if he OR Coleman breaks out that could be a hell of a passing game

I will come out of my hole to evangelize for NFL+ Premium (for however long that lasts) because honestly it gives me way more for my money at $100 for the year. I have been an out of market fan for over a decade now so the struggle is real. I did NFL Sunday ticket when it (finally!) was offered as a separate package and it worked out to ~$100 per Bills game I watched on it. Between the sheer number of Primetime games I get all of them between services I already use (Sling for NBC & ESPN exclusively when it's football season and Amazon Prime because it's worth the money) and that the Bills are a main draw making free local broadcast a thing, more than half the season is already available for me to watch NFL Premium doesn't let you see out of market games live. What is *does* do is give you NFL Red Zone and have the official streams to the WGR broadcast and...I'm not going to lie, I enjoying listening to the local radio team a whole lot more than Chris Collingsworth. There is a slight time delay where I will see a play on RedZone before I hear it, but the radio commenters give me the leadup and context to understand the play. Then, by bedtime, there is a full replay of the game for me to watch every minute over. Plus, as we hit the doldrums of summer, I can go back and rewatch my favorite games from last year. Unfortunately, I think that's something that out of country fans only get. Yeah I tried making a trip to my local Bills bar a thing but that was hard to do when I had time (now with kids) and it was hard on the wallet (even more with kids) and as I've drastically cut my drinking, not as much fun to hang around at. My problem with Sunday Ticket was how little I got out of it.

Thanks Ive been hearing from a few places that Elijah Moore is impressing

In confused because Cardi B seems like a catch and Diggs hasn't dropped her in the clutch

Those who did should have nothing to be ashamed of. I wouldn't have made it through the Drought without the memory of the Kelly era

Did he do the Japanese golfer joke too? "Wrong hole, wrong hole!"

Thank you! The point I go back to was that everyone knew he was a project. At 2023 FSU the QB situation got so screwy his route tree was "go deep & make stuff happen on 50/50 balls" and "short slant or screen" Am I going to blame people for being impatient or wanting to see more? Hell no! I'm those things. But if your entire argument is comparing rookie numbers against guys on the offensive juggernauts such as *checks notes* Jags, Giants, Cardinals, Raiders and Bears, where there was pretty much no other target you are working from a flawed premise

Jesus guys. There was a stretch last year where Keon was running right around with Nabers to lead in rookie receiving yards before his got hirt. A lot of these others guys in his class effectively were their teams offenses in 2023, and Coleman was forecasted as a project in every draft profile I saw. I there stuff to criticize about his game? Absolutely. Do I think he's going to magically be a top 15 receiver this year? No. But c'mon guys, it used to be that you had to wait 3 years to see if a WR panned out and he's clearly putting work in Let's at least get to training camp before we freakout

I know it never works out exactly as expected regarding how difficult the path will be. That said, if the goal is to let rookies take their lumps early the first half breaks pretty favorably: no hot weather games, an perceived easier slate to start (after the Ravens) to break on rookies, there are only two back to back road games the entire season (there is a bye week buffer) with a gradual ramp up to road test in time for the playoffs

After a moment of shock I am ok with the Ravens for opening week. I actually think they still outclass the Bills by a tiny bit, and Week 1 variance might help Also as an objective fan of football a rematch of the divisional round in primetime is just good hype work

Nice a 17-0 record!

Ok but what about Pickens

I will say that the way DaQuan's contract is set up, if whoever they see at 1T is way ahead of him or he is just washed, he is one of the few players who a June 1st cut makes sense for

I'll be honest: so far Bishop has not proven to me that he's a starter. I expect major battles up and down the depth chart and some decent players are going to be gone on cutdown day

I mean I *am* that addicted but I've been cord cutting. What has been great is that I sprung for NFL+ Premium for $100 a year. So not only did I get Red Zone and radio streams as an out of town fan I got all the replay. I think I want to rewatch the San Fran snow game, that was a fun one

Yep I don't think we are going to have an elite receiving group. We don't yet have a guy that DCs lose sleep wondering how to cover. What I think the Bills do have is a lot of average to good (some very good) players, and the variety to scheme up an attack week to week based on that teams weaknesses. Are they bad against the run/inclement weather? Break out the jumbo sets and pound it. Do they play heavy zone? Shakir is devastating against zone Do they play heavy man? Well now we have Palmer and Moore (hopefully Keon) as man beaters. I think that a 11 formation of Moore/Palmer at X, Coleman at Y, Shakir in the slot and Kincaid/Knox at TE and Cook/Davis/Ty is a replicable base offense to attack from

I do think there's a spot for him on the team simply because he can separate so well. What I'm liking is that we are overlaying strengths for redundency. I agree at the whole "positionless" framework. Right now the WR room is Vertical burner: Palmer & Moore (Kincaid to an extent) Red zone Power: Kincaid & Coleman & Knox Middle of the field: Shakir & Samuel, Coleman, Knox Screens: Shakir & Samuel Depending on what the opposing D likes to do, you can find all sorts of ways to stress them

Low risk high reward. We should have a better WR room purely on development and return from injury but this sounds like a Hollins level replacment

I'm thankful he's no longer in the division

I agree that the boom/bust nature is likely why he made it to the 4th round. Heck I'm even ok with a redshirt year if he needs to rehab because of the talent flashed but with a 4th it's no skin off Beane's nose if things don't pan out

Not trying to blow smoke but I've wondered it as well. What are you using Hoecht for? Why was he a priority signing when his calling card is positional flexibility? At the time I dug up this article about a 4-3 under https://weeklyspiral.com/2021/10/04/4-3-under/#google_vignette Basically the advantge is that you'd give the 3 tech (Oliver, Carter, Sanders) a cleaner shot at penetration by shifting the attack to the weakside but the things you need: -a 3 tech who can penetrate -a weakside LB who you have to trust as play flows to them (Milano) -a strongside LB who effectively plays as a 5th down lineman but who can fall back into coverage (Hoecht) that I would assume would be the 9 tech DE on nickel packages or swap to single S with Taron out playing Is this going to happen? I have no idea. Do think it would be reasonable to at least have that as a subpackage for bringing pressure against, say, a run heavy team *cough Ravens* while keeping coverage options open? I'd say so. Would it explain chasing Hoecht and ignoring Safety (if you plan on just using 1 a lot of the time)? To my deluded brain it just might.

Yeah if the idea is to run stunts, and constantly switch up fronts to the get natural overloads or simulated pressures with 4 rushers I am not mad about that Edit: that would actually be the perfect thing to use Hoect for if that's the plan