John Cocktosten

Anyone who thinks Whitner can play SS, THINK AGAIN!

Go to a game and watch it for yourself! He misses guys all of the time and he is the offense's biggest problem. For some reason TO was able to get open on other teams. Lee Evans used to get open for JP (WHO SUCKS). Face facts, Trent is a head case who can't throw downfield.

-Allowing 2 TD's in 76 seconds in the 4th QTR to the Pats. -Giving up 500 yds rushing and 5 TDs to the Saints and Miami in back to back weeks

Great new nickname for Ralph and Marv: Senile and Denial!

You're going to get on here and tell people that they don't know anything about football when you are the author of the ridiculous post below? From your "theory" on how and why Tight Ends are used, it sounds like you'd have trouble explaining the No Huddle offense. Marv has no clue about personnel. No one needs to be reminded who he spent his first pick on when trying to rebuild this franchise. He was lucky enough to coach a team that was built by football's great architect. A team with multiple HOFers and Pro Bowlers and what did this genius do with it? At this point, he is trying to save face because he knows that he screwed up everytime he turns on a Bills game. So save your, "How dare you" BS and google football 101 because you sound like one of those 9 to 5ers who you're chastising.

He won the Andrew Sorenson and thats good enough for me.

Tugging at the heartstrings...you bastard! Things don't change without drastic actions. I always ignored the "Ralph is a cheap SOB" stuff but it is undeniable now. The Peters situation, bringing in 100 veteran LB's and not signing one of em and the L. Walker debacle. The TO signing was nothing more than a marketing ploy to fill the seats and they did. So what your basically saying is that you'd rather the Bills stay here and put out this sh*t product year after year then leave? I just don't get that thought process and if that is your way of thinking then again, you are just as much a part of the problem as OBD. You're an Enron employee who ignores that the walls are crumbling down around you and presses on. You're a Madoff investor who is thrilled with the impossible ROI that you are getting and never asks questions. Even if it's one game where the fans don't buy beer/food or swallow their tix or park everywhere else except the Bills lots. Then OBD might get the message that we're fed up and do something about it.

I'd take Andy Katzenmoyer at this point!

I hate to pick on the younger fans because I'm only 30 but I always wonder, what if these people were to see their bosses or clients? My buddy's Wife stopped going to games years ago because her jackoff husband would get into fights all of the time and she is a school teacher. The last 3 games that we've gone to, someone within a couple of seats was either puking or getting puked on. Last game we brought a poncho as a joke!

I know you're a fan and you love going to the games but if fans like you keep renewing their tickets things will never change. OBD thrives on suckers like you, the people who fell for the "No Huddle Comeback" and the TO move. Proifit margins count more than wins and all you're doing is telling them that the product on the field is great! As much as you don't want to admit it, you are a big part of the problem.

It wasn't as out of control in the late 80's and 90's when the Bills were winning. It was a much more celebritory atmospere. Obviously we were much better back then and I'm sure that has a lot to do with it. I just don't get going to an NFL game and paying all of that money to get blind drunk. You get one of these idiots sitting next to you and it ruins the whole game experience.

Mediocrity looks worse up close.

The Bills problem isn't their defensive interior. Now if you wanted to trade Ralph for Al straight up, then it's a deal!

They gotta real problem on their hands now. Donte looked very impressive at FS. When he got moved back to SS in that gimicky 4-2-5 against the Saints he was getting destroyed against the run and looked like the old Donte. Another brilliant move by the FO ad out OBD talent evaluators!

Being a former season ticket holder, I can't believe how going to a game has become less about watching the game and more about getting blind drunk. The majority of Bills fans go for the party and not the game and that is not going to stop. Ralphy the Prune and his gaggle of dummies who run the team knows that so those who support the team are as much a part of the problem as the powers that be.

Whitner just started showing ability to make plays before he got injured. He is not a SS and has been nothing more than average up until they moved him to FS. Just go watch the Saint game where the Bills played a 4-2-5. The Saints ran right at Whitner and he was killed everytime. The Bills lack of talent evaluation rears it's ugly head once again because Whitner looks like he can play FS but has been wasting away at SS for the last 3 years. McKelvin was getting lit up this year when he was in there. Again, a major miscalculation by the Bills who could have resigned Greer for less money and spent the 1st round pick elsewhere. This team needs enima!

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There was no one like Van. The great teams of the late 80's and early 90's were made that much better by his amazing calls. I remember being so bummed out listening to him towards the end of his career because he just couldn't do it anymore. That being said his calls are seared in my memory as a one of a kind. I like Murphy, but not as a play by play. I can't even tell you how long it's been since I turned the radio on to listen to the Bills but Murph seemed to force enthusiasm and had no flow.

Ask Trent, his strength is picking WRs to throw to.

That's fine, but did he call Trent a p*ssy?

Thurman probably stole it himself because he didn't want to be associated with this team

This is your first year of season tix? Thats a bummer man...

The OP has a point on signing depth but Crowell is damaged goods. Peterson, Keaho and Pisa would've looked nice in a Bills uniform though.

Sign em up! Also, lets see what Sapp and Lynch are doing!