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I dont think there's been anything quick about it at all. Doubt started creeping into my mind after 13 seconds and its only been magnified since. Im pretty sure many others feel the same way. Four playoff games against KC. Four losses. Four lousy defensive performances. Plus a bunch of crap drafts. To quote Maximus in Gladiator. The time for talk and half measures is over.

This offense reminds me of the real estate crash of 2007/2008. Before the crash anyone could get a loan - after the crash even the most qualified were struggling to get qualified, it was a total gross overcorrection before it later found balance again. I feel like that is the Brady offense right now - a complete over correction from sugar rush and wreckless Josh to now being too careful. It absolutely is better for Josh to force less passes, take what is there, master the short game, etc. Its what made Brady and now Mahomes so lethal, they not only hit the big plays bit they will often kill you by deaths of a thousand cuts. But our entire offense is now completely built on manufacturing that and forcing that. We went from too wreckless to now too careful. And again, we saw a lot of great success at first with it - MVP, fewest turnovers in the league, most points in the entire league last year, NFL record of consecutive games not losing the turnover battle, etc. But, like with anything, the league has caught on and caught up. The blue print is out there to slow it down, disrupt it, identify its limitations, etc. Sure, we still get some scoring drives, but its taken away consistency from this offense through predictability. And quite honestly, Josh feeds on the energy he gets from hitting a big play, trucking some guy, leaping over someone, slamming his way into the endzone, etc. Brady has gotten too cute on down and short, too focused on getting 8-10 people to catch a pass, etc. If he doesn't figure out how to pivot and start scheming guys open more, using our personnel better (they are totally using Keon wrong for example), and getting after it more on offense, then this offense is not going to get out of this inconsistent rut. Cook not being in on critical drives or any 3rd downs is just insane. Struggling on down and short with Josh Allen, James Cook, and 3 TE's is insane. Ive been a fan of Brady early, but I have also been a big critic this whole season as I don't think Brady has done a good job this year and don't think there is even 1 game I can say Brady had it going that game.

Defenses are teeing off in pass obvious situations, thanks to Brady’s crappy scheme and play calling.

Wasn't that MJD?

Can we hire Billacheat for next year?

Stay away for a few weeks at least, as a loss is certainly possible. Not inevitable by any means, but possible.

This was one ridiculously talented roster. There were over 20 legit solid-to-great NFL players on that roster, including multiple HOF-level players.

They've been very trait focused in the draft at times, and other times they seem to almost completely ignore traits because they like the film. I get the idea behind it because you're looking for potential growth in a faster/stronger player, but sometimes the player just isn't up to the task. I also think people are quick to judge a player both positively and negatively week-to-week. Players have bad games, it happens to all of them, even HOFers. I'm not going to come out and say Coleman sucks when the plan after palmer gets injured is to just line him up outside 1x1 with AJ Terrell in a game where the Falcons were getting most of the calls. If he's struggled all game in press man, you need to find ways to get a player involved differently just to get the juice flowing again. A successful play can often lead to additional positive plays. Somehow the team lost their way in the Falcons game and there's a number of factors - the falcons defense being better than people expect is a big one, but the failures were about on the game and not all of them can be traced back to the teams inability to shed man coverage.

I hope Josh Allen found his superman cape during the bye. Because apparently he needs to wear it every week.

They actually said they were going to do that this past offseason. Hairston and Bosa was a move in that direction, and maybe Walker/Landon Jackson. But other than that, it was a half-effort.

I think so too, these two losses are overblown because of how frustrating they were. The Bills have serious structural problems but I think they're mostly correctable if the coaching staff can get on the same page. There's flashes in every game of what they can be, I don't think it's unreasonable to think they'll be able to adjust.

I see Woody picking a QB who fails again while some other team or maybe even two hit it big in the QB lottery. It's what Woody does.

BBFS… I mean Vrabel and McDaniels are the Bills undoing because of a 3 point win ? The fatalism runs deep on this board.

The last Super Bowl Manning won his skills were totally shot. The Broncos defense carried that team to a Super Bowl win.

I still believe that we will get it done but the team just looks "off". Players are struggling, scheme looks unprepared and easy to predict, but I've said this in multiple threads: My biggest concern with this team right now is that they look too comfortable. And that includes the coaching staff. There seems to be a low level of accountability. Even with our lack of depth, there is no reason for guys like Rapp or Tre or Coleman to continue to see so much playing time. I think they need to make a big move just to shake some things up and send a message. I would also be very willing to move a "locker room guy" even if they're making strong contributions so far. I need this team to play pissed off angry football.

You people are afraid of Andy Dalton? How embarrassing.

Punt that bounces off someone blocking is live ball. Recieving team should still get ball put penalized. These are some other ones I wanted to implement but will never happen. Home team gets to decide if they want ball or defer. Abolish the coin toss.

The OL isn't as good in pass protection as last year. The WR's are still "meh". Only two elite players on offense at the skill positions. The defense is garbage. Other than that, the Bills are fine. Lombardi trophy here we come.

If we are worried about an Andy Dalton led Carolina team, we can just stop talking about making the playoffs, because it's over if they blow this one.

If we lose to Pats*, Falcons, and Kitty-Cats in a row, we don't deserve a post-season anything. I live 75 miles from Charlotte and refuse to pay hundreds of dollars to watch our defense get shredded again. Blame it on injuries, coaching or whatever, but they are not very good.

John Elway won a Super bowl at like 40. Mannings best teams and statistics rarely resulted in any playoff success. I think both of his SB wins were in some of his weaker seasons in Indy and Denver. Punch a ticket, anything can and probably will happen. I still think they're well on their way to that.

Another Prater master class win.

You spelled illegals wrong.

This game will be won on the final play, I hope we have the ball.