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Considering they paid more than a million more for Howard than White, at a position considered non-premium (as opposed to White), his release was more surprising than a White cut would be. Regardless of how many reps with the 1's he had. You keep going back to these June reps with the 1's. I think, or at least hope, there's a communication breakdown in our discussion. If you're saying as long as he continues running with the 1's, he's safe - I'd agree. But that's not the verbage you've been using. Your implication is that it doesn't matter how he looks, he ran with the 1's in June so he's safe. My stance is that his run with the 1's in June were at least partly circumstantial. And given his mostly negative reports combined with Hairston getting up to speed, it's possible, if not likely, that time with the 1's will reduce if not come to an end in Training Camp. As opposed to OTA's, Training Camp is when they start positional battles and really start giving the Rookies heavy play. If he continues on the path he was on in OTA's, him running with the 1's in June will not matter as heavily as you're weighing it. First off, Dane Jackson is only part of the equation. I personally don't believe he'll make the Roster. I think Dorian Strong will be one of those two open Roster spots outside of Benford, Hairston, and Taron. I believe Hancock, being trained as a Cam Lewis clone, will fall under the Safety roster like Lewis did as a Backup Nickel/Safety. However, there's a scenario where they could feel he needs to focus solely on Nickel in Year 1. Which would complicate things on the CB roster as he's almost assuredly going to be here (we've never outright cut a Rookie before Round 6). My discussion on Jackson comes down to your idea that if he looks better than Tre, it doesn't matter bc you can just put him in the Practice Squad and play Tre White. My point was if Jackson looks better than Tre, sticking him on the Practice Squad for a couple elevations doesn't help the team as we'd be only getting 2 elevations out of him while playing someone who looked worse. I'd also add that I think Tre White could be brought back on the Practice Squad. No one was beating down the door for him this offseason. We got him for a small 2.2m guarantee. He didn't look great last season. If we were to cut him bc he didn't look great for us, I don't think anyone's going to be chomping at the bit to put him on their 53 for Week 1 cold. There's much more at play here than Dane Jackson. There's the other Rookies, as I've discussed. There's also Ja'Marcus Ingram, who had a helluva game for us in Miami when we had to start him and is also a core Special Teamer. If Tre continues to performs poorly, any number of those players could take his place. I don't think Jackson is making it. But if Tre doesn't step up and earn his spot, I don't think it's crazy to think they feel Jackson is a safer bet as one of the last CB's. This was kind of a surprising post to read from you. As we've discussed CB post-Draft and I thought we agreed that White is likely to make the roster, but not a lock. Saying it's Hairston or White to Start and no other options would imply to me that he's a lock. I don't believe it's just Hairston or White. I think it's very much more likely than not that's the case. But if Hairston isn't ready and White's struggles continue through Training Camp, I could see a scenario where something unexpected happens. In 2022, no one thought Christian Benford would start for us Week 1 over our 1st Round Pick and Dane Jackson. But that's just what happened. Just like in 2022, we took Strong in Round 6 after taking Hairston in Round 1. If it played out the same way where our vet options didn't wow and our Round 1 Pick wasn't ready, but our Round 6 Pick wowed - I could see history repeating itself. I don't think it's likely. But it happened in 2022. I could also foresee a scenario (again, albeit not likely) that if White and Hairston looked bad and especially if there were injuries and Jaiire Alexander was still floating out there that they may hop on the phone. Yes, I completely agree. The basis of this entire discussion stems from my original post that if Tre continues on the path that the reports from OTA's have said, he may not be safe. Of course it's early. And that's been the crux of the discussion. The guy I'm going back and forth with wants to say that since he ran with the 1's in June, it means he's safe come September. My stance is that if things were to continue looking negative for Tre through July and August - it doesn't matter where he ran in June. And again, I want him to make the team. I want him to look better. But I think people are in their feels when it comes to Tre and want to vehemently argue anyone who even points at the possibility that they may not be a lock. If reports were coming in that he was looking good or if we didn't have such a logjam at CB, I wouldn't even be discussing it.
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Minnesota lawmaker assassinated another shot.
TH3 replied to 4th&long's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
You don’t get it do you? This whole forum is nothing but nuclear level stupidity. You maga puds just think your posts are legit because you got 10-12 other puds circle jerking your post and you managed to include a link from your pathetic media stream…which has become your entire life. I post the stupidest thing I can think of just because there is no actual discussion here…it’s all pathetic really -
Minnesota lawmaker assassinated another shot.
TH3 replied to 4th&long's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Just like the Epstein filed -
Adios! Deportation Scoreboard. ICE, ICE BABY!
BillsFanNC replied to BillsFanNC's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
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Man, wish NFL could go back & revitalize a lot of these older games. I know it's not as simple as old school movies on film, but with the advancement of AI tech, maybe one day we can get AI upscaling & remastering to HD & clean things up.
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My man! Glad to see more Ruben Brown respect!
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Isn’t that what schools systems do? LOL. Or do they get paid by the kid in your district?
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The plain fact that Jackson can be retained on PS is what he was brought in for. Good move by McBeanes imo Thats easy with McD Veteran , every time. And I agree Push the rookie to start two different mantras we have.
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Check the National Mall live cam. Place looks like a Rockies-White Sox game in early April.
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Oh but COME ON MAN they are just looking to start a new life and become freedom loving Americans just ask Roundy & Tibs they will tell you . And I bet Newsome & Mayor Bass will stand behind them too it's all just a Trump worrying about to much and trying to prove his dictatorship while in office RIGHT ???
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Minnesota lawmaker assassinated another shot.
BillsFanNC replied to 4th&long's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
TH3 may exceed HomeBillsStain in stupidity on a post for post basis. On volume, it can't hold a candle, but when it posts, it posts nuclear level stupidity bombs. -
Minnesota lawmaker assassinated another shot.
4th&long replied to 4th&long's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
For once I completely agree with you. I think the same way about pedophiles. -
What if anything does this have to do with his ego this is about the Army and them serving the country for 250 yrs . Remember the ones that fought on D day, the others that liberated the world from Hitler, the ones that fought in Vietnam, Iraq, Korea, and many other conflicts . All those limp wristed over sensitive libs are the ones trying to twist this into something that has nothing to do with what is actually the reason for the parade . I personally don't care and will be watching maybe a minute of it but will change to something else but think this has little of nothing to do with Trump only that he is the POTUS when this celebration came to be . Biden probably would have forgotten about it or just disrespected it completely by doing nothing for it at least it is a show of appreciation for our military and all those that have served be it alive or passed .
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George Washington.... Fascist!
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Minnesota lawmaker assassinated another shot.
yall replied to 4th&long's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Sums up the leftist mindset in a nutshell; you disagreeing with me and not giving me money = murder -
Minnesota lawmaker assassinated another shot.
Orlando Buffalo replied to 4th&long's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
It takes a special kind of stupid to believe the government is good at fixing problems, especially ones that are related to known poor decision making. -
Minnesota lawmaker assassinated another shot.
T master replied to 4th&long's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
WTH is wrong with people the hole world has lost their freakin minds !! They need to stop coddling these people and make him and others that do this type of thing a example, a life for a life don;'t give him 3 hots and a cot for the next 20+ years so all the tax payers can support a life that some would die to have . Oh I'm sorry but that would be to harsh for the sensitive minded people ! It's pre meditated, a planned assassination so do away with them maybe if there is some one else thinking about doing this kind of thing it will make them think twice or completely stop their plans because they know the consequences will be what final for them !!