bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 I want to hear Trentative Edward's biggest supporters attempt to defend him after this game. Please bring your rosy colored glasses and enlighten me as to how good Trent is and how it is everyone else's fault around him... He keeps his hair neat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills44 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 ACCURACY?!?!?! BWAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahaha C'mon - he's straight money on the 3-yard routes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 He's shown nothing, which makes him expendable. Here's the crux of the issue. You're arguing a falsehood. He is expendable. It's incredibly unlikely the Bills ever achieve success with Trent Edwards at QB. You're using ends to prove the means though. The Bills can draft the top rated QB next year, but it's not going to change their fortunes. They could trade for an established successful QB (I think they tried this one) and they would not be successful. The problem is much, much deeper than QB and they need a change in those areas before addressing the "problem" at QB because no matter what QB they bring in at this point, it's not going to change "what" this team is..the direction this team is headed each week. The sheer amount of bonehead decisions from nearly every player on this team should make it obvious there's a big problem that Fitzpatrick isn't going to do anything to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Big Man Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Hey! I got Dicky J's and Roscoe Parrish's address. When is the 80,000 fans going to storm the field and tare this team and staff to shreds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Accuracy He was horribly inaccurate today. I know you say he only had time to throw on one play but that simply isn't true. He had time on the long throw to Evans and overthrew him (like he overthrew TO last week on the long pass.) He also had time on - I'd estimate - about half his drop back, which I admit is bad. Even so, he's never able to pull the trigger to anybody but RBs or TEs underneath. He started to break out of the shell in the first half with some of those throws to TO but reverted right back to the gun shy QB in the 2nd half. I can't see the entire field on TV but both Evans and TO are quality WRs and they simply can not be well covered on every single pass play. It's simply inconceivable to think that is the case. Trent simply does not have the confidence to throw the ball into tight spaces - which is what an NFL QB has to be able to do. "Open" in the NFL is a half step and it appears to me that Edwards just does not understand this or lacks the confidence to execute it. Either way it ends up killing the offense. The OL was horrible today, I wont' defend them. The penalties were drive killing. But Edwards, once again, showed the same tentative decision making that have fans questioning him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Big Man Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Here's the crux of the issue. You're arguing a falsehood. He is expendable. It's incredibly unlikely the Bills ever achieve success with Trent Edwards at QB. You're using ends to prove the means though. The Bills can draft the top rated QB next year, but it's not going to change their fortunes. They could trade for an established successful QB (I think they tried this one) and they would not be successful. The problem is much, much deeper than QB and they need a change in those areas before addressing the "problem" at QB because no matter what QB they bring in at this point, it's not going to change "what" this team is..the direction this team is headed each week. The sheer amount of bonehead decisions from nearly every player on this team should make it obvious there's a big problem that Fitzpatrick isn't going to do anything to fix. Ok ,Ok Trent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted October 11, 2009 Author Share Posted October 11, 2009 He has been horribly inaccurate for 16 games now. I know you say he only had time to throw on one play but that simply isn't true. He had time on the long throw to Evans and overthrew him (like he overthrew TO last week on the long pass.) He also had time on - I'd estimate - about half his drop back, which I admit is bad. Even so, he's never able to pull the trigger to anybody but RBs or TEs underneath. He started to break out of the shell in the first half with some of those throws to TO but reverted right back to the gun shy QB in the 2nd half. I can't see the entire field on TV but both Evans and TO are quality WRs and they simply can not be well covered on every single pass play. It's simply inconceivable to think that is the case. Trent simply does not have the confidence to throw the ball into tight spaces - which is what an NFL QB has to be able to do. "Open" in the NFL is a half step and it appears to me that Edwards just does not understand this or lacks the confidence to execute it. Either way it ends up killing the offense. The OL was horrible today, I wont' defend them. The penalties were drive killing. But Edwards, once again, showed the same tentative decision making that have fans questioning him. Just made one change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted October 11, 2009 Author Share Posted October 11, 2009 Trent: "We never got into any rhythm. It's frustrating because it goes right in practice and since it doesnt work on the weekends, it's pretty frustrating. We have to get it fixed" "Our headcoach has guys headed in the right direction and can get it fixed" WHAT?!?! Edwards looks everywhere but inside of himself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Accuracy Really? wow...do you just look at the stats in the paper or watch the game? If you look at his completion % he looks accurate becuase he throws so many short dump offs that any 3rd string QB in the NFL can make with the same accuracy. But if you watch his down field throws they are wildly inaccurate, under thrown, over thrown, behind the recievers, defended passes, or INT's. Trents accuracy has been a myth around here for a long time because it was masked by all his short completions, but he is in the bottom 5 amongst starters (nobody is worse than J. Russell) in the NFL today in downfield accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad1 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Here's the crux of the issue. You're arguing a falsehood. He is expendable. It's incredibly unlikely the Bills ever achieve success with Trent Edwards at QB. You're using ends to prove the means though. The Bills can draft the top rated QB next year, but it's not going to change their fortunes. They could trade for an established successful QB (I think they tried this one) and they would not be successful. The problem is much, much deeper than QB and they need a change in those areas before addressing the "problem" at QB because no matter what QB they bring in at this point, it's not going to change "what" this team is..the direction this team is headed each week. The sheer amount of bonehead decisions from nearly every player on this team should make it obvious there's a big problem that Fitzpatrick isn't going to do anything to fix. Want to know another falsehood? You can pick and choose when to add talent to a football team. If the draft comes up next season and the Bills have a chance to grab an top NFL QB prospect, they should take it, whether the team is ready for it or not. Did the Bills have great direction when they drafted Kelly in 1983? Of course not, they went 4-28 the next two seasons. But they used the opportunity to grab a great player. Was Atlanta ready to draft Matt Ryan last season, or Baltimore ready to draft Joe Flacco? Who cares if they were ready, those teams saw the opportunity to add a talented QB to the roster and took it. Passing on drafting a talented QB because the organization or current talent isn't ready would be foolhardy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 No no no - Trenters is great, probably the best Bills QB since Kelly, and certainly the next 'up-and-coming' Tom Bundchen*. He just needs a better O-line, better WRs, and better coaching. Don't you JP Fan-Boys get it???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad1 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Accuracy He has no downfield accuracy, which is a non-negotiable attribute in an NFL starting QB. Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 All I know is I've seen Trent Edwards play well years ago. Why has he regressed? Bad coaching? Lingering effects of his concussion? I have no idea. I just know this guy used to be able to make throws. I know there are certain Bills fans who revel in failure. This is your day. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills44 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 ^^^ it's the newly-diagnosed "Latent 3-4 Concussion" or the weather or the OL etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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