DrDawkinstein Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 doing a great job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 doing a great job Take a trip over to the PPP section... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 Take a trip over to the PPP section... never Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 never http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-g20s...,0,312578.story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PushthePile Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 doing a great job I would love to know if the action in the first video is SOPs. It looks to be absurdly aggressive and violent but the cops don't seem to be hiding their behavior. Are the cops above the law? Are the cops acting on instruction? Do the cops have a very valid reason for their behavior? My knee jerk reaction is that this is ridiculous and actually could have the opposite effects the cops desire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegtapr Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Yawn. It's very easy to hold a peaceful protest, something these people have no intention of doing. Fun part is, you ask half of them what they are protesting against and they couldn't tell you. Yeah, the bike girl was too aggresive at first, but the proper response is not to throw your bike at them, it's to get the !@#$ out of there. A casual walk generally isn't a good idea. I'd also like to see what preceded the pushing. A lot of times these videos are conveniently edited. The second video.... tough ****. You're told to disperse and you hang around then expect to have force used against you. Leave means leave, not hang around and act all tough like the rules don't apply to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 You're kidding me right? That was excessive?? You're in a group that's being moved along by riot police, expect to be prodded a bit. You throw your bike at a cop expect to get a baton in the back of the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 You're kidding me right? That was excessive?? You're in a group that's being moved along by riot police, expect to be prodded a bit. You throw your bike at a cop expect to get a baton in the back of the head. dude, she got cross checked before she "threw" her bike at him it sure looks like she was trying to get going but the first shove knocked her off the bike, then she gets cross checked... as a citizen, where do you stand up for yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 Yawn. It's very easy to hold a peaceful protest, something these people have no intention of doing. Fun part is, you ask half of them what they are protesting against and they couldn't tell you. except that they have video documented evidence of Police Plants at other Summit protests dressed as protesters trying to stir trouble and getting protesters to throw things. gimme a minute, ill dig up the video. i do agree however, that most of these people have no idea what theyre protesting. but that doesnt excuse the police's behavior. edit: Yeah, the bike girl was too aggresive at first, but the proper response is not to throw your bike at them, it's to get the !@#$ out of there. A casual walk generally isn't a good idea. I'd also like to see what preceded the pushing. A lot of times these videos are conveniently edited. The second video.... tough ****. You're told to disperse and you hang around then expect to have force used against you. Leave means leave, not hang around and act all tough like the rules don't apply to you. so youre basically saying that we shouldnt have the right to assemble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 except that they have video documented evidence of Police Plants at other Summit protests dressed as protesters trying to stir trouble and getting protesters to throw things. gimme a minute, ill dig up the video. i do agree however, that most of these people have no idea what theyre protesting. but that doesnt excuse the police's behavior. Oh, bull ****. About 5% of the people who attend these protests are professional protesters who's only purpose there is to start trouble and blame it on the authorities - and they are very effective at it (they are, after all, professionals). That includes these ridiculous allegations of "plants" trying to cause trouble. so youre basically saying that we shouldnt have the right to assemble? I see plenty of people assembling in those videos. The simple fact that there ARE videos is itself an indication of how "oppressive" the "oppression" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 Oh, bull ****. About 5% of the people who attend these protests are professional protesters who's only purpose there is to start trouble and blame it on the authorities - and they are very effective at it (they are, after all, professionals). That includes these ridiculous allegations of "plants" trying to cause trouble. see linked video in my edit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 see linked video in my edit... Here's hoping that you spend a night in the hoosegow real soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Does any one know what exactly is the G20? What they are meeting for? What have they done in the past? I really don't know what the purpose of this meeting is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 Here's hoping that you spend a night in the hoosegow real soon. the new world order is on their way to my house just for posting the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 They were told they could protest until 11 PM. Both of the videos are from after 11 PM when the cops were tellig them to disperse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 They were told they could protest until 11 PM. Both of the videos are from after 11 PM when the cops were tellig them to disperse. well thank to for whoever gets to make the rules of what people can do when. right to assemble only runs from 9am to 11pm. noted. (but thanks for the info wacka, that kinda changes the perspective) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 well thank to for whoever gets to make the rules of what people can do when. right to assemble only runs from 9am to 11pm. noted. (but thanks for the info wacka, that kinda changes the perspective) Noise ordinances usually go in effect at 10 PM. The cops were being nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 well thank to for whoever gets to make the rules of what people can do when. right to assemble only runs from 9am to 11pm. noted. (but thanks for the info wacka, that kinda changes the perspective) Right to assemble does not give one the right to disturb the peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Right to assemble does not give one the right to disturb the peace. Not taking sides, how does riding on a bike = disturbing the piece? Clearly the force used was excessive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I havn't seen what led up to those videos, but purely in those contexts it's excessive force. What happened to freedom to assemble and freedom of speech to protest? Seems pretty heavy handed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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