Simon Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 You watch what the Pack offense is doing and it becomes obvious that their staff went into this scrimmage with a specific plan to attack the weak points of the Bills defense. Seeing them repeatedly go after same spots in the Buffalo defense over and over again is not a co-incidence. Offensively the Bills look a bit indecisive and at times even a little disinterested. Unfortunately they are going against a very good unit that is not going through the typical preseason motions. The Pack defense is frequently blitzing, stunting and running zonedawgs all over the place. The sky is falling crowd that has ruled the roost for the last 20 hours is embarrassing itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 You watch what the Pack offense is doing and it becomes obvious that their staff went into this scrimmage with a specific plan to attack the weak points of the Bills defense. Seeing them repeatedly go after same spots in the Buffalo defense over and over again is not a co-incidence.Offensively the Bills look a bit indecisive and at times even a little disinterested. Unfortunately they are going against a very good unit that is not going through the typical preseason motions. The Pack defense is frequently blitzing, stunting and running zonedawgs all over the place. The sky is falling crowd that has ruled the roost for the last 20 hours is embarrassing itself. Let's assume that the Pack did gameplan. How does that excuse the Bills poor play? The Bills mistakes were pretty basic For example on Trent's first pick he locked on to Evens the whole time, then he fired the ball late. What does that have to do with a game plan? Yje Bills line play was equally as sloppy. I agree it is preseason but with Jauron's job on the line and an extra week of play you would think the Bills would look better. They were flat out beat on both sides of the ball. If you think Bellicheat and the cheatriots* will learn nothing from this game film then the sky is falling on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 You watch what the Pack offense is doing and it becomes obvious that their staff went into this scrimmage with a specific plan to attack the weak points of the Bills defense. Seeing them repeatedly go after same spots in the Buffalo defense over and over again is not a co-incidence.Offensively the Bills look a bit indecisive and at times even a little disinterested. Unfortunately they are going against a very good unit that is not going through the typical preseason motions. The Pack defense is frequently blitzing, stunting and running zonedawgs all over the place. The sky is falling crowd that has ruled the roost for the last 20 hours is embarrassing itself. I agree, its a little early to be throwing in the towel just yet. Yup, My bro and I were saying the exact same thing, looks like they game planned us, just like the Cowboys did the Titans, but its like I said on another thread, it only helps make us better because this is what we'll face in the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Let's assume that the Pack did gameplan. How does that excuse the Bills poor play? The Bills mistakes were pretty basic Uhhh...because when one team game-plans and the other doesn't, the other is frequently presented by formations that confuse the living hell out of them, and in response make basic mistakes? And that first interception was as much Evans' fault (for not coming back to the ball) as much as it was just a great play by two defensive backs and a fluke carom. Calling that a "basic mistike" is rather silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I agree, its a little early to be throwing in the towel just yet. Yup, My bro and I were saying the exact same thing, looks like they game planned us, just like the Cowboys did the Titans, but its like I said on another thread, it only helps make us better because this is what we'll face in the regular season. You really think the Pack game planned? It will only be worse during the season. Perhaps the reasons why it was so easy to pick up on the Bills weak spots is because they are the same as they were last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 You watch what the Pack offense is doing and it becomes obvious that their staff went into this scrimmage with a specific plan to attack the weak points of the Bills defense. Seeing them repeatedly go after same spots in the Buffalo defense over and over again is not a co-incidence.Offensively the Bills look a bit indecisive and at times even a little disinterested. Unfortunately they are going against a very good unit that is not going through the typical preseason motions. The Pack defense is frequently blitzing, stunting and running zonedawgs all over the place. The sky is falling crowd that has ruled the roost for the last 20 hours is embarrassing itself. Schobel is still decent against the run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cale Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 You watch what the Pack offense is doing and it becomes obvious that their staff went into this scrimmage with a specific plan to attack the weak points of the Bills defense. Seeing them repeatedly go after same spots in the Buffalo defense over and over again is not a co-incidence. So what? Does this loss not count in the pre-season? Out team just looked unprepared. What's our excuse? C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Uhhh...because when one team game-plans and the other doesn't, the other is frequently presented by formations that confuse the living hell out of them, and in response make basic mistakes? And that first interception was as much Evans' fault (for not coming back to the ball) as much as it was just a great play by two defensive backs and a fluke carom. Calling that a "basic mistike" is rather silly. Exactly. That ball was too late in the amount of time it takes a hard pass to travel one foot, Evans needs to come back a foot more than he did, and the CB made a tremendous break on the ball, timed it perfectly and just got it to tip straight up in the air. 9 times out of 10 that's a completion. That was just a tremendous play by the DB and defense as a whole. And a tiny miss by Trent and a tiny miss by Evans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Let's assume that the Pack did gameplan. How does that excuse the Bills poor play? The Bills mistakes were pretty basic For example on Trent's first pick he locked on to Evens the whole time, then he fired the ball late. What does that have to do with a game plan? Yje Bills line play was equally as sloppy. I agree it is preseason but with Jauron's job on the line and an extra week of play you would think the Bills would look better. They were flat out beat on both sides of the ball. If you think Bellicheat and the cheatriots* will learn nothing from this game film then the sky is falling on you. Marv Levy used the preseason to evaluate players and going 0-4 , 1-3 meant nothing to him and if you want to be dumb enough to give your regular season opponents more useful game film to study, more power to you. Did belicheat gain much from watching last nights game someone like yourself might ask, no, not in my opinion they didn't because our coaching staff is smart enough not to play a preseason game like they will a regular season game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Uhhh...because when one team game-plans and the other doesn't, the other is frequently presented by formations that confuse the living hell out of them, and in response make basic mistakes? And that first interception was as much Evans' fault (for not coming back to the ball) as much as it was just a great play by two defensive backs and a fluke carom. Calling that a "basic mistike" is rather silly. If you think Edwards locking on to Evans the entire play is not a "basic mistake" then you are mistaken. I rewound that play twice just to verify - there is no doubt that Trent did not even look anywhere else. The DB just had to lock on and wtch the ball come in. Next series the Bills center gets an illegal motion - again pretty basic mistake. Now they ar ein 2nd and 15. The lfet side of the GB d-line just crushes the Bills pass protection - OK maybe not a mistake but they got their asses kicked. Not much game plan to that. Watch the game again. The Bills were simply outplayed and they dug themselves into holes due to their own mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Marv Levy used the preseason to evaluate players and going 0-4 , 1-3 meant nothing to him and if you want to be dumb enough to give your regular season opponents more useful game film to study, more power to you. Did belicheat gain much from watching last nights game someone like yourself might ask, no, not in my opinion they didn't because our coaching staff is smart enough not to play a preseason game like they will a regular season game. Your comparison to Levy is pointless. Except for one or maybe two positions in any given year Levy had his starters. So to your point the preseason was a joke for him. If you think the current version of the Bills can afford to take the same approach you deceive yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 23, 2009 Author Share Posted August 23, 2009 Schobel is still decent against the run He's also displaying a very good bullrush on multiple occasions that's getting him deep into the pocket. If you think Bellicheat and the cheatriots* will learn nothing from this game film then the sky is falling on you. Do you really think Belichik needs this piece of film to hand Jauron his ass? Perhaps the reasons why it was so easy to pick up on the Bills weak spots is because they are the same as they were last year. The big one is the same. But Whitner's move to the Free and Schobel's return change things a little bit. So what? Does this loss not count in the pre-season? Ummmm, no? It's a freaking scrimmage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Do you really think Belichik needs this piece of film to hand Jauron his ass? true but why should we make it so freaking easy for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Might possibly be that GB has better talent? Just watched the replay of the Bills 3rd offensive series. Raji owned Butler on a bull rush leading to an incompletion. Trent was off the mark on two other passes. Guess the Bills lack of pass protection and Trent making bad throws is all due to the Packer's brilliant gameplan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Your comparison to Levy is pointless. Except for one or maybe two positions in any given year Levy had his starters. So to your point the preseason was a joke for him. If you think the current version of the Bills can afford to take the same approach you deceive yourself. Game planning a preseason game is pointless in my opinion. Marv Levy's player evaluation approach during preseason wouldn't change regardless of who he has on his team and if you think otherwise, your deceiving yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 23, 2009 Author Share Posted August 23, 2009 Might possibly be that GB has better talent? Just watched the replay of the Bills 3rd offensive series. Raji owned Butler on a bull rush leading to an incompletion. Trent was off the mark on two other passes. Guess the Bills lack of pass protection and Trent making bad throws is all due to the Packer's brilliant gameplan. Yes, my point was that the Bills played a perfect game and made no mistakes. Trent looked shaky all night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I know. What else should they do? Why shouldn't a coach take the opportunity to plan and practice against its opponents weakness--especially in pre-season? Is it poor etiquette or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 So what? Does this loss not count in the pre-season? Out team just looked unprepared. What's our excuse? C Not trying to be a jerk, but you do know that preseason games don't count, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Yes, my point was that the Bills played a perfect game and made no mistakes. Trent looked shaky all night. Now just watched the Packers series leading to their second touchdown. Here was the Packer's Gameplan: Schoebel lines up offsides giving them an easy 5 yards Ellison gets a pass interference on a ball that was so poorly thrown the TE would not have had much of a play on it anyway McGee gets cought flat footed on a ball that was underthrown that Driver made a nice adjustment to. The pack runs a basic off tackle run that leads to a score. Sorry but once again the Bills greatly contributed to their own shortcomings. I agree this is preseason but the Bills are not playing like a team that knows their coache's job is on the line. They are sloppy, slow and full of mistakes. Let's hope this all miraculously changes with the start for the real season. This team is so good (like the Kelly era) that they can afford to show this slop in the preseason. Continue to convince yourself that none of this matters when the Bills start the season 0-4. At least then Bills nation will be unified in the belief that jauron needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 23, 2009 Author Share Posted August 23, 2009 I know. What else should they do? Why shouldn't a coach take the opportunity to plan and practice against its opponents weakness--especially in pre-season? Is it poor etiquette or something? I don't think it's a matter of should or shouldn't. Some coaches do it sometimes and others don't. When they do the differences are tangible; just trying to point out this was one of those times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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