Bufcomments Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Mike Vick, andy Reid and tony dungy live right now on eagles.com for anybody who wants to see vick now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 Thought he handled himself very well IMO I have to give the Eagles some props for giving him a second chance, hey if Tony Dungy agrees with this, and McNabb even help get Vick to Philly then the haters should give Vick a break and lets see how this plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 I thought he handled himself very well, too. All he has are words now, obviously his actions will be the determining factor, but he surely didn't seem like he was just reading a statement or didn't believe what he was saying. Dungy helps his credibility a ton. I hope it works out for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 A guy trying to get millions put on a good act? I'm shocked. It's not like he lied face to face to his owner and the commish. Dude is a dog murderering scum and probably couldn't have found a better home than Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Does anyone actually believe the Vick would have stopped the dog fighting ring if he hadn't been caught and sent to prison? I absolutely believe he'd still be doing it today if he wasn't caught It's amazing how incarceration (and the loss of MILLIONS of dollars) makes you realize what you were doing was !@#$ing HORRIBLE. I'm sorry, but the sh-- he was doing before being caught was horrific, he knew it was illegal, unethical and down right freaking cruel and yet he had no problem with it. I'm not all that religious so I don't owe him any forgiveness. I hope some dog loving defensive lineman breaks his leg or chokes the !@#$ing life out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Thought he handled himself very well IMO I have to give the Eagles some props for giving him a second chance, hey if Tony Dungy agrees with this, and McNabb even help get Vick to Philly then the haters should give Vick a break and lets see how this plays out. Can we please stop saying second chance? It's like his 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonz Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Vick is nothing but a thug, plain and simple... What he did took place over years ...This wasn't a guy who had one too many and drove drunk. On top of that he was a crap QB before all this went down - Why some Bills fans wet their pants with anticipation of him signing here is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Does anyone actually believe the Vick would have stopped the dog fighting ring if he hadn't been caught and sent to prison? I absolutely believe he'd still be doing it today if he wasn't caught It's amazing how incarceration (and the loss of MILLIONS of dollars) makes you realize what you were doing was !@#$ing HORRIBLE. I'm sorry, but the sh-- he was doing before being caught was horrific, he knew it was illegal, unethical and down right freaking cruel and yet he had no problem with it. That's pretty much what he said himself in the press conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Can we please stop saying second chance? It's like his 5th. If anything it would be his 3rd. The weed in the water bottle is the only other thing. Showing your middle finger towards a few fans is nothing. Brian Cox used to do that at every Bills game. And Ron Mexico is just him trying to hide the fact that he has an STD. If you had an STD would you tell everyone about it? Im not in love with Vick, Im just defending that other than the weed and the dogs there are no other real issues. If there are more then Ill eat my crow. I just dont think those other things are all that bad. The dog killing was horrible. No justifying that. But he did go to prison for it. And he was there for a longer time than a recent WR that killed a person while drunk driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Vick is nothing but a thug, plain and simple... What he did took place over years ...This wasn't a guy who had one too many and drove drunk. On top of that he was a crap QB before all this went down - Why some Bills fans wet their pants with anticipation of him signing here is beyond me. I wasnt wetting my pants to get him here. But even as a bad QB he still won games, and took some bad teams to the playoffs(and won). As far as our situation at QB now, we have a backup that everyone already wants out of town because he is so bad, a 3rd stringer that is worse, and a starter that has only proven that he gets injured at least once a year. Im just saying a veteran backup might not have been a bad idea. I dont care if its Michael Vick or Jeff George. We should get someone in here with some real experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Does anyone actually believe the Vick would have stopped the dog fighting ring if he hadn't been caught and sent to prison? I absolutely believe he'd still be doing it today if he wasn't caught It's amazing how incarceration (and the loss of MILLIONS of dollars) makes you realize what you were doing was !@#$ing HORRIBLE. I'm sorry, but the sh-- he was doing before being caught was horrific, he knew it was illegal, unethical and down right freaking cruel and yet he had no problem with it. I'm not all that religious so I don't owe him any forgiveness. I hope some dog loving defensive lineman breaks his leg or chokes the !@#$ing life out of him. I love animals and I'm especially fond of dogs, but something is wrong when we as a race forget humans have the capabilities to learn from their mistakes and feel remorse for their sins. Only God knows whats in Michael Vicks heart and in the end its all that matters. Why are we as a nation so drawn to one on one combat even though the outcome is sometimes very brutal and in rare cases death occurs. Why are the most watched shows filled with violence and death and in many cases its humans killing humans. Different cultures are becoming civilized at different rates and the African American's growth was stunted as a direct result of what we as a Country did to them and this Holier than thou attitude from a people whom not to long ago treated blacks like animals goes to far in my opinion. Michael Vick deserves a second chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 If anything it would be his 3rd. The weed in the water bottle is the only other thing. Showing your middle finger towards a few fans is nothing. Brian Cox used to do that at every Bills game. And Ron Mexico is just him trying to hide the fact that he has an STD. If you had an STD would you tell everyone about it? Im not in love with Vick, Im just defending that other than the weed and the dogs there are no other real issues. If there are more then Ill eat my crow. I just dont think those other things are all that bad. The dog killing was horrible. No justifying that. But he did go to prison for it. And he was there for a longer time than a recent WR that killed a person while drunk driving. The "Ron Mexico" story didnt come out because he was trying to hide that he had an STD. It came out because he was being sued for KNOWINGLY spreading it to other people. The scumbag KNEW he was infected, but told women he was clean and refused to wear condoms. That, right there, shows you exactly what type of person he is/was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 I love animals and I'm especially fond of dogs, but something is wrong when we as a race forget humans have the capabilities to learn from their mistakes and feel remorse for their sins. Only God knows whats in Michael Vicks heart and in the end its all that matters. Why are we as a nation so drawn to one on one combat even though the outcome is sometimes very brutal and in rare cases death occurs. Why are the most watched shows filled with violence and death and in many cases its humans killing humans. Different cultures are becoming civilized at different rates and the African American's growth was stunted by as a direct result of what we as a Country did to them and this Holier than thou attitude from a people whom not to long ago treated blacks like animals goes to far in my opinion. Michael Vick deserves a second chance. not only do you contradict yourself in this post, but you managed to state that African Americans living today are less civilized than whites? dude, cmon... to me this isnt about "dogs" or the value of a dog's life, its about him INTENTIONALLY and DIRECTLY torturing, drowning and killing living things over and over, especially when those acts are illegal. it's about him KNOWINGLY and INTENTIONALLY spreading herpes to other people. yeah, he was punished harshly and has paid his price. but i can not be sure that it magically turned him into a better person. id love to believe it did. but the days of trusting him are over. HE ruined that. so now he has to prove it. thats all there is to it. i hope he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Is he a Bill yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Little Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 So Vick charmed all of you in his presser, eh? He really is one hell of a sociopath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 So Vick charmed all of you in his presser, eh? He really is one hell of a sociopath. Nicely put. You all realize, of course, that very soon we will all be treated to the "I'm a victim here, the world is against me, and I'm gonna show them" line that the Pats* used after Spygate, right? Within two months, sportswriters, fans, and other assorted fartsacks are going to turn him into a victim and a hero. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Does anyone actually believe the Vick would have stopped the dog fighting ring if he hadn't been caught and sent to prison? I absolutely believe he'd still be doing it today if he wasn't caught It's amazing how incarceration (and the loss of MILLIONS of dollars) makes you realize what you were doing was !@#$ing HORRIBLE. I'm sorry, but the sh-- he was doing before being caught was horrific, he knew it was illegal, unethical and down right freaking cruel and yet he had no problem with it. I'm not all that religious so I don't owe him any forgiveness. I hope some dog loving defensive lineman breaks his leg or chokes the !@#$ing life out of him. do alcoholics stop drinking unless they are told they have to? do drug addicts stop using unless they are told they have to? most people dont see anything wrong with their actions until something intervens causing them to take a hard look at what they have been doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 do alcoholics stop drinking unless they are told they have to? do drug addicts stop using unless they are told they have to? most people dont see anything wrong with their actions until something intervens causing them to take a hard look at what they have been doing. Running an organized dog fighting ring and engaging in self abusive behavior aren't the same thing. But to answer your question, yes many of them do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjprime Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 do alcoholics stop drinking unless they are told they have to? do drug addicts stop using unless they are told they have to? most people dont see anything wrong with their actions until something intervens causing them to take a hard look at what they have been doing. As someone that has been around alcoholics and is around criminals on almost a daily basis, it doesn't matter what the circumstances are, most will continue said behavior even if caught or having an intervening moment. Unless that individual WILLINGLY decides to make a change on their own, not be forced they'll continue said activity. The amount of individuals I see come back in on probation violations is ridiculous. Now we are talking about someone that has openly been caught lying in the past about the situation? Forced to do time? Multiple issues in the past Vick also lied about? Being put back into an arena where he can make enough money to cover it up? Where Vick can use the media and good hearted people to make it out like he's being the wrongly persecuted victim now? My money is on that leopard not changing his spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 not only do you contradict yourself in this post, but you managed to state that African Americans living today are less civilized than whites? dude, cmon... to me this isnt about "dogs" or the value of a dog's life, its about him INTENTIONALLY and DIRECTLY torturing, drowning and killing living things over and over, especially when those acts are illegal. it's about him KNOWINGLY and INTENTIONALLY spreading herpes to other people. yeah, he was punished harshly and has paid his price. but i can not be sure that it magically turned him into a better person. id love to believe it did. but the days of trusting him are over. HE ruined that. so now he has to prove it. thats all there is to it. i hope he does. Do you think the way blacks were treated here in our country when we brought them over as slaves helped them? Did we educate them? Did we treat them properly? I take great pride in calling African American's my brother's and sister's and they are a huge part of what makes our Country unique and special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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