HereComesTheReignAgain Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,519965,00.html "Maggie and John Anderson of Chicago vowed four months ago that for one year, they would try to patronize only black-owned businesses. The "Empowerment Experiment" is the reason John had to suffer for hours with a stomach ache and Maggie no longer gets that brand-name lather when she washes her hair. A grocery trip is a 14-mile odyssey." "We've still got that 'the white man's water is colder' mentality," he said. "We can't take us for granted. When we go to our establishments, it's almost like we're doing a favor. That ought to be a given for us." It seems to me that this is the type of divisive behavior that will harm race relations. I see what they are trying to do, but it just doesn't seem quite right. How will anyone take a black business owner seriously if they think the only reason they are succeeding is because black people refuse to shop at the white owned store due to the race of the owner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 That wouldn't work for me. I'm Irish. I'd just be drunk all the time from visiting too many Irish Bars and you can only eat just so much Corned Beef & Cabbage. People would call me a racist but I wouldn't care because I would be drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,519965,00.html "Maggie and John Anderson of Chicago vowed four months ago that for one year, they would try to patronize only black-owned businesses. The "Empowerment Experiment" is the reason John had to suffer for hours with a stomach ache and Maggie no longer gets that brand-name lather when she washes her hair. A grocery trip is a 14-mile odyssey." "We've still got that 'the white man's water is colder' mentality," he said. "We can't take us for granted. When we go to our establishments, it's almost like we're doing a favor. That ought to be a given for us." It seems to me that this is the type of divisive behavior that will harm race relations. I see what they are trying to do, but it just doesn't seem quite right. How will anyone take a black business owner seriously if they think the only reason they are succeeding is because black people refuse to shop at the white owned store due to the race of the owner? I think it's hilarious that it's called the "Buy Black" Experiment. I thought we tried that experiment centuries ago, I don't think it worked out so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartshan-83 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,519965,00.html "Maggie and John Anderson of Chicago vowed four months ago that for one year, they would try to patronize only black-owned businesses. The "Empowerment Experiment" is the reason John had to suffer for hours with a stomach ache and Maggie no longer gets that brand-name lather when she washes her hair. A grocery trip is a 14-mile odyssey." "We've still got that 'the white man's water is colder' mentality," he said. "We can't take us for granted. When we go to our establishments, it's almost like we're doing a favor. That ought to be a given for us." It seems to me that this is the type of divisive behavior that will harm race relations. I see what they are trying to do, but it just doesn't seem quite right. How will anyone take a black business owner seriously if they think the only reason they are succeeding is because black people refuse to shop at the white owned store due to the race of the owner? I think it's an interesting experiment. I get what you are saying, but I think the only way this harms race relations is if people view it that way. I look at it from the point of view that they aren't trying to harm "white business" but that they are (a) trying to see if it is even possible to find necessary goods and services from black businesses and (b) trying to support the growth of black business in a grass-roots kind of way. And I think your last sentence goes a bit far. People always support certain subsections of the population for personal reasons. "Buy American", "Buy Local", "Buy Organic"....Would you assume that the only reason Chrysler sells cars is because people refuse to buy foreign? ( ...okay terrible example). Would you assume the only reason your local farmers' market succeeds is because people refuse to buy non-local goods? Bottom line...these types of things tend only to become problems when people label them as problems. If the Anderson's project was called "Boycott Whitey" then I could see a legit beef. Until then, just look at it as a segment of our population engaging in a social experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted May 13, 2009 Author Share Posted May 13, 2009 And I think your last sentence goes a bit far. People always support certain subsections of the population for personal reasons. "Buy American", "Buy Local", "Buy Organic"....Would you assume that the only reason Chrysler sells cars is because people refuse to buy foreign? ( ...okay terrible example). Would you assume the only reason your local farmers' market succeeds is because people refuse to buy non-local goods? I do think there is a perception that certain American products can only compete with foriegn products if we place additional taxes or restrictions on foriegn goods. Just look at the auto industry. I know I am being a little naive in thinking that the best business model and superior service should be the determining factor of whether a business succeeds. Is it OK to encourage people to only shop in stores owned by people of your own race? I think it is an interesting experiment that the original couple performed and I'm sure it helps to illustrate their point. If they were truly just doing this to raise awareness about the lack of black businesspeople, they could have stopped short of encouraging other blacks to only patronize black businesses. I think at that point it crosses over from research to racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardFan Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Politically Correct Racism. [similar to the lack of thought process that it's ok for blacks to use the word ni$$er but it's a capital offense for whites.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Any business that is artificially subsidized or supported is doing a disservice to that establishment in the long run. Giving the illusion of a properly run outfit when it is only succeeding because of a client el that is not motivated by quality of service or product, but by emotion. Can only last so long until and when that business hits hard times, for whatever reason, it cannot sustain itself because they don't have the necessary experience to deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Would Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton be throwing a tantrum if there was a "buy white experiment"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Tigre Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 We all tend to do buisness with people that we feel comfortable with. Race is sometimes part of that comfort level. I know that my family has always bought more goods and services from other Latinos than from any other group of people. It's not racist,it's just where you have the connections. Sometimes,especially with some of the older folks,they go to people in their own ethnic community even when it's not the best deal,just because of that comfort level. I think the Black community has,historically,done a lot less of it. I have no problem with them doing the same thing the rest of us have been doing all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 What happens if the black owned store has a white or hispanic running the cash register? What if the milk they buy at that store is produced by a white owned dairy? What about the other way around where it's a white owned store selling milk from a black owned dairy? I have no problem with the idea, but that last example seems like a major problem to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Gotta love the stupidity... Maggie and John Anderson of Chicago vowed four months ago that for one year, they would try to patronize only black-owned businesses. The "Empowerment Experiment" is the reason John had to suffer for hours with a stomach ache and Maggie no longer gets that brand-name lather when she washes her hair. A grocery trip is a 14-mile odyssey. Riiiight, sit there with a stomach ache because I'm sure CVS has no black shareholders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Back in the 80's and 90's there was a huge push in DC from the residents to make black owned businesses the only thing going. In fact there was a large korean contingent that owned a lot of the inner city stores. To further their cause the locals started burning down, killing and pretty much torturing the asian store owners to rid the city of any owners who were not black. I guess there are multiple ways to skin a cat. Of course you then had a huge uproar when prices went through the roof as there was no competition and all major businesses left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Politically Correct Racism. [similar to the lack of thought process that it's ok for blacks to use the word ni$$er but it's a capital offense for whites.] No offense but this is the most retarded thought process ever. you really aren't upset that you can't use a word that is one of the most offensive racial slur in history? It really bothers you that the people who went through slavery and some of the biogtry ever can use it and you can't? If doesn't, you need to get a life and some hobbies because you are a total loser then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 No offense but this is the most retarded thought process ever. you really aren't upset that you can't use a word that is one of the most offensive racial slur in history? It really bothers you that the people who went through slavery and some of the biogtry ever can use it and you can't? If doesn't, you need to get a life and some hobbies because you are a total loser then. Is that why some 17 year old black kid from Detroit can use it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Is that why some 17 year old black kid from Detroit can use it? Personally, I think no one should it. but yes, I definitely think a 17 year black kid has a lot more of a right to use it than a middle age white guy. And again, if you really feel the need to ever argue about the right to use it, I think you need to examine your life. Because I'm guessing it's not very fulfilling if you are pissed off about not being about to use racial slurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Personally, I think no one should it. but yes, I definitely think a 17 year black kid has a lot more of a right to use it than a middle age white guy. And again, if you really feel the need to ever argue about the right to use it, I think you need to examine your life. Because I'm guessing it's not very fulfilling if you are pissed off about not being about to use racial slurs. He has a right to use it because his great-great-great grandparents were enslaved, and his grandparents were discriminated against? It's like saying he's eligible for reparations because of his ancestors were enslaved. And guess what? I could care less if I'm allowed to say the N word or not, but i find "white guilt" completely hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Change Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Personally, I think no one should it. but yes, I definitely think a 17 year black kid has a lot more of a right to use it than a middle age white guy. And again, if you really feel the need to ever argue about the right to use it, I think you need to examine your life. Because I'm guessing it's not very fulfilling if you are pissed off about not being about to use racial slurs. Isn't a black man President? I now reserve the right to be an equal opportunity offender. That's right you crackers, spic's, slopes and niggas! Seriously though, your argument about who has the 'right' is ridiculous. Gotta love your moral equivalence scale though. You're priceless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Isn't a black man President? I now reserve the right to be an equal opportunity offender. That's right you crackers, spic's, slopes and niggas! Seriously though, your argument about who has the 'right' is ridiculous. Gotta love your moral equivalence scale though. You're priceless! If you are a white person fighting over the right to drop N bombs, you have all ready lost. "White guilt" or not being a pathetic piece of trash that has to further stupidity? But it's my right as an American to use racial slurs dammit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 If you are a white person fighting over the right to drop N bombs, you have all ready lost. "White guilt" or not being a pathetic piece of trash that has to further stupidity? But it's my right as an American to use racial slurs dammit. "White guilt" is feeling responsible for something you had absolutely no part of, and bending over backwards to "fix" it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Am I the only one who needs an explanation of the finer points of the "white man's water is colder" mentality? WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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