grammer_police Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 He's been resting for an eternity. He has been looking forward to hitting Brady, and having him miss another year. He has witnessed the likes of Chris, Ryan, John, and Kyle. He is pissed. 10+ Sacks, and the rookie we draft on the other end will shine too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBills12 Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 I hope so...Schobs is more valuable than people think....I say he rebounds nicely with 7 or 8 sacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 He's been resting for an eternity. He has been looking forward to hitting Brady, and having him miss another year. He has witnessed the likes of Chris, Ryan, John, and Kyle. He is pissed. 10+ Sacks, and the rookie we draft on the other end will shine too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generaLee83 Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 He's been resting for an eternity. He has been looking forward to hitting Brady, and having him miss another year. He has witnessed the likes of Chris, Ryan, John, and Kyle. He is pissed. 10+ Sacks, and the rookie we draft on the other end will shine too! He's on the downside of his career. No pro bowl for Aaron next season. Oh I forgot though he's signed for what the next 9 years for 800 billion, good move Marvtard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 He's been resting for an eternity. He has been looking forward to hitting Brady, and having him miss another year. He has witnessed the likes of Chris, Ryan, John, and Kyle. He is pissed. 10+ Sacks, and the rookie we draft on the other end will shine too! I'm sorry, but I think Aaron Schobel's overrated and someone who's not even one of the top twenty DE's in the league. Yes he's our best DE, but that isn't saying a whole lot. The guy was close to being a top ten DE a few years ago, but he's no where near that today. I never was really a big Shobel fan, I just think he always had a habit of disappearing for long of stretches of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 I'm sorry, but I think Aaron Schobel's overrated and someone who's not even one of the top twenty DE's in the league. Yes he's our best DE, but that isn't saying a whole lot. The guy was close to being a top ten DE a few years ago, but he's no where near that today. I never was really a big Shobel fan, I just think he always had a habit of disappearing for long of stretches of time. no DE gets more than 3-4 pressures a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 no DE gets more than 3-4 pressures a game. Never talked about pressures per game. If I was an opposing defensive coordinator, Schobel wouldn't scare me in the least. Even when he was good he wasn't exactly what you'd consider a scary defender. I'd classify his play style as workman-like. He's this era's version of Phil Hanson. That's not bad at all, but let's not pretend he's a game changer. He's ok for this year, but after the Bills draft a first round DE to replace Kelsay this year, they should either use FA or another first round pick in 2010 to replace Schobel the following year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Schobel has always been good at picking up garbage sacks. With an additional DT (draft), DE (draft), and an additional year's experience out of McKelvin yielding coverage sacks, this could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQ Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 I'm sorry, but I think Aaron Schobel's overrated and someone who's not even one of the top twenty DE's in the league. Yes he's our best DE, but that isn't saying a whole lot. The guy was close to being a top ten DE a few years ago, but he's no where near that today. I never was really a big Shobel fan, I just think he always had a habit of disappearing for long of stretches of time. I tend to agree. What was most telling was when HBO miked him vs. the Seahawks (I think) he was caught on the sideline talking about how he physically was having trouble keeping up now that he is no longer a young guy. It was a little disconcerting to hear, especially after he gets locked up with such a long term contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 He's been resting for an eternity. He has been looking forward to hitting Brady, and having him miss another year. He has witnessed the likes of Chris, Ryan, John, and Kyle. He is pissed. 10+ Sacks, and the rookie we draft on the other end will shine too! I like your positivity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightcrawler Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 I'm sorry, but I think Aaron Schobel's overrated and someone who's not even one of the top twenty DE's in the league. Yes he's our best DE, but that isn't saying a whole lot. The guy was close to being a top ten DE a few years ago, but he's no where near that today. I never was really a big Shobel fan, I just think he always had a habit of disappearing for long of stretches of time. Perfect Response! Stop the thread. This discussion is not officially over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zdro22 Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 I'm sorry, but I think Aaron Schobel's overrated and someone who's not even one of the top twenty DE's in the league. Yes he's our best DE, but that isn't saying a whole lot. The guy was close to being a top ten DE a few years ago, but he's no where near that today. I never was really a big Shobel fan, I just think he always had a habit of disappearing for long of stretches of time. schobel SUCKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Never talked about pressures per game. If I was an opposing defensive coordinator, Schobel wouldn't scare me in the least. Even when he was good he wasn't exactly what you'd consider a scary defender. I'd classify his play style as workman-like. He's this era's version of Phil Hanson. That's not bad at all, but let's not pretend he's a game changer. He's ok for this year, but after the Bills draft a first round DE to replace Kelsay this year, they should either use FA or another first round pick in 2010 to replace Schobel the following year. Bump. I seriously can't remember Schobel ever making a difference. I'm sure he had, but just never really understood the rationale of Marv giving him that stupid contract as another thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 To say he's probably not in the top 20 DEs in the league is not that damning in my opinion. I honestly think this ranking is about right, and maybe a bit low (for how he was playing 2 years ago). Schobel has consistently gotten to the opposing QB .5-.75 second faster than our other rushers, even when he's drawn a double-team (which I'd say has been about 70-80% of the time on pass plays). Sure, our other rushers haven't been great, but that's a big difference. I'm thrilled to get Schobel back. If we get any other upgrades to our pass rush this offseason I think the results will look much better than last year, not necessarily in sacks, but in INTs and stopping opponents drives. And last year our defense performed decently as a unit. It was clearly our offense that came up short more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladiebla Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Bleh Pro Bowl is so overrated. It's just a popularity poll and has a lot less to do with who is actually the better player in a position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grammer_police Posted April 6, 2009 Author Share Posted April 6, 2009 Bump. I seriously can't remember Schobel ever making a difference. I'm sure he had, but just never really understood the rationale of Marv giving him that stupid contract as another thing. I would agree with you 100% that Schobel is not a playmaker. He has probably only been a true difference in a game (fumble, timely sack, etc.) a few times in his career. But like another poster just mentioned, he draws those double teams. Why? Because he's a slightly better than average player, and if you single team him he'l make a play or two per game. I can't wait to see what Stroud can do with a better player in his trench taking a little pressure off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 He's been resting for an eternity. He has been looking forward to hitting Brady, and having him miss another year. He has witnessed the likes of Chris, Ryan, John, and Kyle. He is pissed. 10+ Sacks, and the rookie we draft on the other end will shine too! Here's hoping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Never talked about pressures per game. If I was an opposing defensive coordinator, Schobel wouldn't scare me in the least. Even when he was good he wasn't exactly what you'd consider a scary defender. I'd classify his play style as workman-like. He's this era's version of Phil Hanson. That's not bad at all, but let's not pretend he's a game changer. He's ok for this year, but after the Bills draft a first round DE to replace Kelsay this year, they should either use FA or another first round pick in 2010 to replace Schobel the following year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 I'm glad to see Bills fans like you and SoCal-Surf trying to keep it real. This is the season we let our favorite team know we've had enough of the same old sunny side up spin. Other than McGee, Lynch, Jackson, McKelvin and Evans, it's hard to find a player without a major flaw. In regards to Lynch's legal hassles, I'm talking purely about play on the field. At this point, I couldn't fault anyone tossing him off the non-flawed list though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Stop the thread. This discussion is not officially over. You seem conflicted. No you don't. Yes you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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