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Q. Why are you so belligerent?

 

A. You're a jackass

B. You watch too much ESPN and don't have an original thought

C. You rant about fair pay, when no one said anything about contract negotiations

D. You're a jackass

E. All of the above

 

Not that I really care what you think of Magox, but I'm certain that I can find a near-carbon copy of some of your posts all over this forum. Posts that re-hash the same argument over and over have nothing original about them, so that's kind of like the pot calling the kettle black.

 

Again, not that I care, but I thought I might point out the irony.

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I just want to remind you guys that 4 years ago we were in a desperate search for a LT.

 

It was a long journey since John Fina retired.

 

QUALITY LT's are very hard to find and when Peters in gone you might wait another 8 years to find a decent replacement.

 

Some of you claim Trent Edwards is injury prone and without a LT you maybe adding to that problem.

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Who the hell says peters is worth more than his current contract? I ahvent seen anything.

 

NEWSFLASH FOR YOU HARDHEADS...........Peters isnt getting a new contract this year. IF he does I will leave this board forever. therefore, another holdout will ensue, followed but sh------- play, and a dinged up Trentski.

Leave the board forever??? Promise?? I will not lead the lets get Peters a new contract campaign!!

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Peters is not one of the best LT's playing the game... The best LT's don't give up 10+ sacks in 13 games... anyone arguing agasnst that fact has desperate blinders on.

 

Until Peters plays LT at a very high level consistently (for more then 1 season) he doesn't deserve to one of the top 5 payed LT's...Maybe Peters shouldn't have held out last year, he in no way deserved the probowl nod in 2009 and he missed camp and a few games and he looked like dog crap for most of the season and probably cost us the playoffs...

 

the Peters love affair is unwarranted, he proved what type of player he really is in 2008

 

Sorry for the delay, but I had to check some stats before I came back and posted this:

 

- David Diehl, who signed a huge extension with the Giants after making the pro bowl at left tackle, gave up 10 sacks in 14 games in 2007.

- D'Brickashaw Ferguson gave up 8 in 7 games in 2007.

- Marvel Smith gave up 6 in 7 games in 2007.

 

All get paid more than Peters.

 

http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.ph...=&teamid=-1

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Interesting, your choice of words. Know why? Because typically, that’s what I think to myself every time I read a “trade the best offensive lineman on the team” thread. I mean, verbatim: “Grow up or go away.” Trading the best lineman on the team is stoopid. No matter your justification. Yes, he gave up 11.5 sacks...supposedly. Since, you know, sacks-given-up is not an official NFL statistic, so it’s a completely subjective total. He played 13.5 games, which average about 55 offensive snaps (which, as a general side note, is piss poor offense), for a total of approximately 740 plays. So your (and everyone else’s) justification for trading the guy is that he went from making 4 mistakes (supposedly) in 740 plays to 11.5 mistakes (again, supposedly) in 740 plays.

 

At this point, it's probably fashionable to ask how many of those sacks were the result of the QB holding the ball too long, the WRs failing to get open in time, or un-accounted-for blitzers that come untouched from the left side, which undoubtedly all get counted against Peters. However, I’m going to ignore those things for the purpose of my post and move along.

 

You need to read my posts: I didn't say trade the guy, I am saying he held out and had a very bad year. I'm sorry but you can't just choose to ignore certain stats just because you don't like them. Sacks can be somewhat subjective, but

much less so for a LT with nobody on your left side?

 

If I were GM, I would tell his agent to get his client into camp, on time, and we'll see what we get from him this year.

 

You want to just throw out 2008, then fine, we'll just throw out 2007 as well and see what he's really got in 2009.

 

He's under contract, and if he wants to play like he did in 2008, good luck and good riddance, IMO.

 

If he can show up like everyone else and be ready when the season starts, and perform, then pay him.

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Sorry for the delay, but I had to check some stats before I came back and posted this:

 

- David Diehl, who signed a huge extension with the Giants after making the pro bowl at left tackle, gave up 10 sacks in 14 games in 2007.

- D'Brickashaw Ferguson gave up 8 in 7 games in 2007.

- Marvel Smith gave up 6 in 7 games in 2007.

 

All get paid more than Peters.

 

http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.ph...=&teamid=-1

 

 

Do you realize the link you reference has Peters with an overall LT rating of 2.2, placing him 27 on the list?

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All of these trade scenarios are "pipe dreams" if we are truly looking to build on continuity. I say we are going to keep every player that is already signed to a deal for next season unless it will benefit us that much more towards our cap space for signing another player in FA.

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Q. Why are you so belligerent?

 

A. You're a jackass

B. You watch too much ESPN and don't have an original thought

C. You rant about fair pay, when no one said anything about contract negotiations

D. You're a jackass

E. All of the above

listen armchair,

 

as far as having an original thought, well i suggest you read my posts again, if you fail to see the argument behind it, then you'll never see it. About fair pay, Thats what the whole argument was based on, HELLLOOOOOOOO!! As far being beligerent, I didn't call anyone here a dumbass, I said dumbass posts about Peters statistics on giving up stats based on one year. Lots of good players in this league have had bad years that went on to do great things. Peters has proven that he can play at a high level, and if we would of decided to have paid him what he is worth, we wouldnt even be having this argument today.

 

Anyone who says, "lets wait for him to play well in 2009 before we open up contract talks again" really is just living in fantasy armchair gm land. In this league you pay based on potential not reward. Why do you think Matt Ryan gets paid more than Brady, cuz he's better? noooooo, cuz there is a dream that maybe he will be better or as good. If we don't pay Peters his real worth, than someone else will, and guess what? He'll be a probowl LT for some team, and we will be stuck searching for an entire decade for someone to replace him.

 

Thats the reality

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Also another thing.

 

All these dumb ass stats of Peters Giving up more sacks than anyone.

 

I got one here for you

 

 

 

 

Season Team Passing Rushing Fumbles

G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost

 

2006 Pittsburgh Steelers 15 15 280 469 59.7 3,513 7.5 18 23 46 280 75.4 32 98 3.1 2 5 2

 

This is what Rothlesburger did in 2006

 

What I am assuming is that by giving these sack stats against Peters, you are justifying that he doesn't deserve more money and that we should either get rid of him, trade him or just let him be pissed and have him sit out the season.

 

So based on the same logic, what Roethlesburger did in 2006, they should of just got rid of him right? I mean he had a 75.4 qb rating which is far lower than what Trent did this past year. He threw lots more Int's than TD's and gave up a shi$%t load of sacks with less than a 60 % accuracy.

 

They should of dropped the Bum!!

 

instead of doing that they payed him over $100 Million and they won a super bowl.

 

What a bunch of dumbasses

 

 

Ya you guys are right, lets Let Peters walk away or trade him based on his one crappy season. :thumbsup:

Finally, someone who gets it.

 

If we trade Peters, you can kiss the playoffs goodbye for the next few years at the least.

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Why would we have to swaps 1st and trade Peters for Boldin..

 

A probowl LT is worth more then any WR playing the game. In fact Arizona should give us something on top of Peters to take Boldin off their hands

 

I can't resist. How about Fitzgerald for Peters? :thumbsup:

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Scenario #1. AZ needs a LT BADLY, to replace Gandy. We have one and need an elite WR to complimant Evans' deep threat...som, trade Peters and swap 1st's with AZ for Bolden...spend the $$, Bolden fits perfectly with a check down offense as he can create yardage after the catch.

 

Scenario #2. Baltimore will be in need of a CB, as they won't be able to hold on to both, or either for that matter, of thiers. We need a dominant OLB...so, trade Mcgee and swap firsts with Baltimore for Suggs. (assuming we re-sign Greer.)

 

Scenario #3. Folllow 1 & 2 until you get to swapping 1st's w/baltimore, make both trade, but give baltimore McGee and our 3rd, then trade Lil' Roscoe and our 5th for someone's 3rd rd pick.

 

There is Genious in this post, I know it! On the contrary, if there is, it's too smart for the Bills' front office.

 

 

How is this not "far fetched"?

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Right. I'm sure that's the reason. Couldn't have been any of the following:

 

Poor QB play

Uncreative, uninspired offensive game planning

Horrific in-game management

Undewhelming defense that forces very few turnovers

Complete lack of a secondary threat in the passing game

Non-existent production from the tight end position

Fewest sacks in the league from the defensive ends

 

Fear not, your total lack of thought is forgiven.

 

:thumbsup:

you left out playing next to an overpaid, underachieving turd at LG

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You know, there is just too much risk with rewarding Peters at this point, it was not only

the sacks, but he had a bunch of un-timely penalties as well this past season. That shows

not only a physical lack of sharpness, but mental as well. I still think that whether you want

to call it a lack of motivation, or just plain indifference, it's anyones guess, but like other posters

have mentioned, I don't think that the Bills are in a very giving mood, and wouldn't be suprised

at all to see them try and move him. I heard what you say about others holding out, Bruuuuce, etc.

but his holdouts weren't nearly as long, and he always performed when he did get there.

I mean if we are that dependant on Peter's performance, man we are in big trouble, because, I still

think that he is a big fat question mark. The Cardinals got to the SB with Gandy for Chr%$T'S s@&KE!

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Not that I really care what you think of Magox, but I'm certain that I can find a near-carbon copy of some of your posts all over this forum. Posts that re-hash the same argument over and over have nothing original about them, so that's kind of like the pot calling the kettle black.

 

Again, not that I care, but I thought I might point out the irony.

 

Take a look at the number of posts I've made...obviously a new comer to these parts. On a blog with thousands of posts, do you really think i've read all of them. Aside from that point my posts are my own musings and dilusions, most of which are completely unrealistic. At least I don't copy and paste a bunch of stats and draw a conclusion so similar to several NFL analysts and pass it off as my own.

 

Now, if you want to have a serious conversation about the greatest sport to ever have been played, start a new topic that is worth an "original" thought.

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